What is New Testament Holiness?

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There will always be those who feel threatened by the truth that exposes them and thus resist the truth. We see that with every thread that I start, There is no wisdom against the wisdom of God. So then many will hurl all manner of abuse my way...but without any substance...just ad hominem attacks based on foolish pride. What we don't see is any actual discussion that refutes even the smallest point I am making. It's like being in a remedial class for obstinate children.

Modern religious types cannot endure sound doctrine...as prophesied. See, modern believers are mentioned in the Bible.

2 Tim. 4:3 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"

My teaching is true according to the depths of Christ. His sheep hear His voice.
You do not threaten me, nor do you scare me

However. I am worried about those who may follow you. Because you can not lead them to God with your non gospel..
 

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By simple you mean dogmatic...what the masses are able to hear. (I will address this in the next podcast...wait for it) But God can instruct even the simple into His ways. Dumbing down the ways of God for the sake of the simple ones has succeeded in filling the pews...but not the kingdom of God. Modern believers have not known God's ways...being stiff-necked and unbroken...just like the Israelites of old. But repentance can get God's attention..and His instruction.

The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.

I know...sounds "esoteric" to carnal ears. :)
God says what He means and means what He says in plain language that even the foolish of this world can understand, even unlearned simple fisherman.
 
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God says what He means and means what He says in plain language that even the foolish of this world can understand, even unlearned simple fisherman.
Do not cease to remind and warn my friend . Very dangerous ones are amongst us . The overseer
who cometh in the name of overseer has swallowed a lie and intends to spread it wherever he can .
KEEP the gospel and all bibilcal truth at the forefront . DO NOT let this other man have even an inch .
Cause i have seen this doctrine INFECT entire houses once you let it into the doors .
 

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You do not threaten me, nor do you scare me

However. I am worried about those who may follow you. Because you can not lead them to God with your non gospel..
To the trenches . If we were all military , wait in way we are due to we are in the LAMBS army ,
i would tell you all . The time for twenty five , fifty , even seventy five percent alertness is over .
THIS IS what is called THE FINAL WALL OF IRON FIRE . IT MEANS ALL GUNS BLAZING
cause the enemy has entered the camp . We stand for JESUS and HIS GOSPEL NOW
or they gonna take this place too my friend .
 
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Do not cease to remind and warn my friend . Very dangerous ones are amongst us . The overseer
who cometh in the name of overseer has swallowed a lie and intends to spread it wherever he can .
KEEP the gospel and all bibilcal truth at the forefront . DO NOT let this other man have even an inch .
Cause i have seen this doctrine INFECT entire houses once you let it into the doors .
 
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amigo de christo

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God says what He means and means what He says in plain language that even the foolish of this world can understand, even unlearned simple fisherman.
The overseer has to complicate the scriptures in order to make them fit to his own agenda .
The words of the LORD are plain to those who follow HIM .
Its they who make complicated that which is simple in order to TWIST IT to fit an idea they BELIEVE IN my friend .
Even that man with down syndrome , that man who followed and follows the LORD
can see very plainly and very clearly what a highly so called educated man like the overseer cannot .
Stand firm to the end my friend . In fact let us double down with only much more biblical doctrine
which will expose the lies of darkness . THE LIGHT exposes darkness . March on in the trenches my friend .
DO not let this overseer gain any ground .
 

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God says what He means and means what He says in plain language that even the foolish of this world can understand, even unlearned simple fisherman.
THey will always use lines like , we are carnal and cannot see what they see .
OR we are too religious . What they cannot do is BRING SCRIPS TO BACK THEMSELVES UP WITH .
THEY bring only words like you need enlightenment , you need whatever it is , THEY CLAIM TO HAVE
in order to see the scrips . NO THANKS BUDS , i see what they have , and it TWISTED THE SCRIPS unto THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION .
I WILL KEEP THE HOLY GHOST . men do as men do and believe me they will try , but lambs wont be heeding men gone wrong
 
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God says what He means and means what He says in plain language that even the foolish of this world can understand, even unlearned simple fisherman.
also watch out for a big catch phrase of theirs . They love to say you have ROSE COLORED glasses
and they imply it to mean you , me or others are seeing the doctrine , the scrips through religoin .
BUT ITS THEY WHO SEE IT THROUGH RELIGOIN . Through a truth that came of men
that said and told them to take GOD out of the box ,
they spoke half truths and used those half truths to break down ABSOLUTE TRUTH
make it into a liquid , then reshaped into into their own absolute truth they now aboslutely believe
EVEN THOUGH they holler there is no absolute truth .
Watch out for they are amongst us . ITS they who see the scrips through their own inclusive rose colored glasses .
 
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The overseer has to complicate the scriptures in order to make them fit to his own agenda .
I am speaking at the depth they are meant to be understood at by those who actually know the Lord. A surface reading is at the level of the world...not His disciples. For you, depth means complicated. That is because you are out of your depth so that you reduce the words of God to something your carnal mind can reason with. Of course you don't see how dangerous that is. I counsel anyone with even a speck of wisdom to avoid your railings and pontificating. They are not of the Lord.


The words of the LORD are plain to those who follow HIM .

But only to those who are His. All others will see the wisdom of God as foolishness, "esoteric", and complicated.
Its they who make complicated that which is simple in order to TWIST IT to fit an idea they BELIEVE IN my friend .

The irony. You twist the spiritual meaning OUT of the scriptures to fit a still unbroken, carnal outer man.
Even that man with down syndrome , that man who followed and follows the LORD

God is love.
can see very plainly and very clearly what a highly so called educated man like the overseer cannot .

I know what the carnal outer man desires. I'm human too. It's just that I don't have any confidence in carnal understanding. You need to come out from your false covering...adding sin to sin...and open those deaf ears of yours...un-stiffen your neck...and turn to the Lord with a little humility.
Stand firm to the end my friend . In fact let us double down with only much more biblical doctrine
which will expose the lies of darkness . THE LIGHT exposes darkness . March on in the trenches my friend .
DO not let this overseer gain any ground .
You are being exposed...and also your fine-feathered friends. The masses do not follow Christ...but rather a cardboard cut-out that your teachers like to limit God to.
 

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I am speaking at he depth they are meant to be understood by those who actually know the Lord. A surface reading is at the level of the world...not His disciples. For you, depth means complicated. That is because you are out of your depth when trying to reduce the words of God to something your carnal mind can reason with. of course you don't see how dangerous that is. I counsel all with even a speck of wisdom to avoid your railings and pontificating. They are not of the Lord.




But only to those who are His. All others will see the wisdom of God as foolishness, "esoteric", and complicated.


The irony. You twist the spiritual meaning OUT of the scriptures to fit a still unbroken, carnal outer man.


God is love.


I know what the carnal outer man desires. I'm human too. It's just that I don't have any confidence in carnal understanding. You need to come out from your false covering...adding sin to sin...and open those deaf ears of yours...un-stiffen your neck...and turn to the Lord with a little humility.

You are being exposed...and also your fine-feathered friends. The masses do not follow Christ...but rather a cardboard cut-out that your teachers like to limit God to.
Many claim to hold the keys of knowledge and to know GOD and CHRIST
yet they themselves have not even entered in and are HINDERING MANY from entering in who sit under THEM .
HEY OVERSEER , YOU one of them . You cliam to hold the mystery of GOD and to have special knowledge
that apparently some of us do not know . YET , YOU FLAT OUT DENY what JESUS HIMSELF SAID
about those who believed not . Yeah epi , folks are on to you and the agenda . WE WONT BE HEEDING YOU .
ITS TIME you come in our direction and start learning the simple truth for YOU .
 
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Many claim to hold the keys of knowledge and to know GOD and CHRIST
yet they themselves have not even entered in and are HINDERING MANY from entering in who sit under THEM .
HEY OVERSEER , YOU one of them . You cliam to hold the mystery of GOD and to have special knowledge
that apparently some of us do not know . YET , YOU FLAT OUT DENY what JESUS HIMSELF SAID
about those who believed not . Yeah epi , folks are on to you and the agenda . WE WONT BE HEEDING YOU .
ITS TIME you come in our direction and start learning the simple truth for YOU .
Why do you believe not? Rather than pointing the finger at others...you are guilty of judging others as if you were God. So then you are under judgment. I am warning you to your own benefit. But your religious outer man wants to be coddled back to sleep. Go to your pew and wait till judgment day...as you will.
 
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Under the guise of apostacy it already is turning with one mind and one heart against the lambs who will not conform
to its wordly love song . ITS GONNA GET MUCH WORSE TOO .
The golden bull , the trogan horse , the false awakening to unify the religoins and apostates within christainty
has been growing . THEY GONNA COME and COME SOON with one mind and one heart
to do the bidding and the will of what they think is GOD , and do all to rid the earth of all and any who resisted
the call of her lie to unify as one under the banner of what they think is love and God .
Yes....unfortunately that is the way that seemeth right to man but leads to death.....wisdom of the world and flesh, not God's wisdom. People believing they are righteous and in good standing because of their own righteousness rather than submitting to the righteousness of Christ. Sounds anti-Christ to me! Its the very thing that blinded the Pharisees and religious of Jesus' day, the belief that they were already righteous and didn't need Him.
 

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You do the same darn thing.
Here pot, here kettle
Among other things, these behaviors incite emotional energy. Increased emotional energy can be addictive. Getting someone to continue to respond in these negativity-based interactions can give the brain shots of dopamine or endorphins or various neurotransmitters, that literally turn into addictions.

Someone who is consistently baiting and belittling/judging/negatively characterizing others/_______ may be acting out of such an addiction.

Much love!
 
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You do the same darn thing.
Here pot, here kettle
You just did the same thing...but you can't see that of course. I am judged for NOT judging those that are outside the church. We ARE called to judge those who are within...especially those who judge others because of a religious bent. But only God can judge people that are not found within the faith.

So you are typically misinformed and knee jerk reacting here.

People outside the church have not made a commitment to Christ. We can't expect them to be judged by the same standard as those who have publicly claimed allegiance to Christ. Those who are not against us are for us.
 

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Among other things, these behaviors incite emotional energy. Increased emotional energy can be addictive. Getting someone to continue to respond in these negativity-based interactions can give the brain shots of dopamine or endorphins or various neurotransmitters, that literally turn into addictions.

Someone who is consistently baiting and belittling/judging/negatively characterizing others/_______ may be acting out of such an addiction.

Much love!
I think some post here while imbibing.
 
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You just did the same thing...but you can't see that of course. I am judged for NOT judging those that are outside the church. We ARE called to judge those who are within...especially those who judge others because of a religious bent. But only God can judge people that are not found within the faith.

So you are typically misinformed and knee jerk reacting here.

People outside the church have not made a commitment to Christ. We can't expect them to be judged by the same standard as those who have publicly claimed allegiance to Christ. Those who are not against us are for us.
You put yourself above others, believing you are their (our) appointed "visitation", that is, you are to approve or reject others. Is that right? Episkopay?

Much love!
 

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Yes....unfortunately that is the way that seemeth right to man but leads to death.....wisdom of the world and flesh, not God's wisdom. People believing they are righteous and in good standing because of their own righteousness rather than submitting to the righteousness of Christ. Sounds anti-Christ to me! Its the very thing that blinded the Pharisees and religious of Jesus' day, the belief that they were already righteous and didn't need Him.
Again...the irony. So many modern type believers justify themselves based on a religious belief that is really just a conflict of interest....the flesh looking for a way to "get saved." Those who seek to save their life will lose it. :rolleyes: The righteous don't think they are righteous...only the self-righteous think that way. The humble don't think they are humble. same idea.

The bible doesn't say..."And Abraham believed God and he counted to himself for righteousness" (that's what many here have done). Likewise the Publican didn't go home thinking he was righteous. If people had a little more understanding of these things....
 
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