Paul did not talk about a mindset? Apparently you did not bother to read Rom.7, or consider the mindset mentioned in Rom.8:
Under the old covenant of law, if a person should stumble on any one point, he would be guilty of all (James 2:10). This is your position. You preach the same intolerance that the law preaches. But we are not under the law in regards to covenant with God. Therefore whatever commands we are given do not demand flawless moral perfection. There is room for man's imperfection in this covenant.
If you don't think that we are in a covenant of grace, then please explain the existence of Rom.ch.5 in the bible.
As well, in Rom.3:19,20, we read...." Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped and all the world may become guilty before God" Therefore by the deeds of the law shall no flesh be justified in His sight. For by the law is the knowledge of sin".
Unfortunately, in the covenant you describe, the knowledge if sin is alive and flourishing. You do not call that a covenant of law? You seem to insist in pouring guilt upon your brothers and sisters. Where's the grace? Where's the sacrifice of Jesus, who is our advocate?
The sacrifice of Jesus in your understanding, is weaker and inferior to that of the blood of bulls and goats. Those kept the people in good standing before God. But in your idea of this covenant, our obedience to commands is what keeps us in good standing. I can scarcely believe that you do not connect this with justification by works, rather than by faith. I can scarcely believe that you have any idea why Paul wrote to the Galatians. But maybe you have no interest in studying that letter.
You or anyone can promote obedience to moral commands all day long, and I won't be your opponent in that.....unless you connect that with justification for life. Then justification by faith is out the window and you have offended the covenant of grace, as the Galatians did. It is the old testament law that is zero tolerant. As soon as anyone brings zero tolerance into this covenant, he is in error.
Since we know that the gift of life is a one time gift and cannot be repeated (Heb.6:1-6) and we know that the seed of Abraham is innumerable, I would say that it takes a lot more than what you describe as intolerable, to lose what God has freely given.
I agree. We are in a covenant of grace. Faith is merely the means by which we access God's grace. I merely used my own figure of speech in speaking of the new covenant, in which our part of the covenant is faith and love.IBeMe said:
"covenant of faith" isn't in the Bible.
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Under the old covenant of law, if a person should stumble on any one point, he would be guilty of all (James 2:10). This is your position. You preach the same intolerance that the law preaches. But we are not under the law in regards to covenant with God. Therefore whatever commands we are given do not demand flawless moral perfection. There is room for man's imperfection in this covenant.
If you don't think that we are in a covenant of grace, then please explain the existence of Rom.ch.5 in the bible.
As well, in Rom.3:19,20, we read...." Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped and all the world may become guilty before God" Therefore by the deeds of the law shall no flesh be justified in His sight. For by the law is the knowledge of sin".
Unfortunately, in the covenant you describe, the knowledge if sin is alive and flourishing. You do not call that a covenant of law? You seem to insist in pouring guilt upon your brothers and sisters. Where's the grace? Where's the sacrifice of Jesus, who is our advocate?
The sacrifice of Jesus in your understanding, is weaker and inferior to that of the blood of bulls and goats. Those kept the people in good standing before God. But in your idea of this covenant, our obedience to commands is what keeps us in good standing. I can scarcely believe that you do not connect this with justification by works, rather than by faith. I can scarcely believe that you have any idea why Paul wrote to the Galatians. But maybe you have no interest in studying that letter.
You or anyone can promote obedience to moral commands all day long, and I won't be your opponent in that.....unless you connect that with justification for life. Then justification by faith is out the window and you have offended the covenant of grace, as the Galatians did. It is the old testament law that is zero tolerant. As soon as anyone brings zero tolerance into this covenant, he is in error.
Since we know that the gift of life is a one time gift and cannot be repeated (Heb.6:1-6) and we know that the seed of Abraham is innumerable, I would say that it takes a lot more than what you describe as intolerable, to lose what God has freely given.