True and some of us are being called liars because we dare to mention seeing those gifts in action.
What Things Would you Like to See, Functioning In Church
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I have tended never to give much credence to the professional prophets.
Holy Spirit preaching and Holy Spirit led worship and prayers too.
Totally @Pearl and I agree with what you are saying. We know that the gifts are for today. We also know that some who call themselves believers have never experienced the power of the Holy Spirit working in their lives and probably never will....
I do get that sometimes. But in every church I've been to it's hit and miss.
With that I would like to see less ritual in my Mass. I have to watch it everyday to get the spirit in me daily and the ritual gets a little boring.
quietthinker
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I see it doesn't require much to get you angry Angelina.....it almost seems to me you are looking for an excuse to kick me off?.....but I understand.....sacred cows are sacrosanct!@quietthinker That's your opinion but you are talking to me. I am a Pentecostal believer.... Do you know me? Are you saying that I do not have the Holy Spirit dwelling within me? is that what you are saying brother because that is enough to get you deleted off this forum.
In any case, if you can, look at what I've said objectively.....that way you won't be miffed so quickly.
I used to be afraid of what I might miss is I didn't go to church - those were exciting times.
I don't know you but I do know what you are insinuating and I gotta tell ya brother. I have been mod here for 11years and I won't tolerate someone saying that members who are Spirit filled and giving God the glory are somehow doing it via another spirit. You are insulting a whole load of Penetcostals who frequent this forum including me and I will not stand by and let you do that. If you want to leave, don't slam the door on your way out.
I will also like this. I went to a church that claimed they looked out for one another and it didn't prove when I came into a needy situation 10 years later. Some people helped for a little while, but not the leaders. And it shouldn't be that way. If we are brothers and sisters then we should be treated and treat others as if we are in fact brothers and sisters.
quietthinker
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Angelina.....how do you imagine a counterfeit spirit will/would manifest?.......and how do you think those with a counterfeit spirit will respond if not in outing and isolating any reference which highlights the phenomena?
I find it disturbing that you would want to shut someone down who addresses this matter.
Of all the weird and wonderfull things addressed on this forum, hitting nerves in the pursuit of truth is inevitable.
I find it disturbing that you would want to shut someone down who addresses this matter.
Of all the weird and wonderfull things addressed on this forum, hitting nerves in the pursuit of truth is inevitable.
@quietthinker just because you have never experienced the power and the anointing of the Holy Spirit does not mean that others here have not. Please read this title thread. This is not a debate forum so don't even start it here....
My experience was that sometimes when I was quite and manifesting God's spirit, that people would come running up to me to touch me so that they could get a touch of the spirit that I was experiencing. Now I do not "speak" in tongues, but I do "cry" in the spirit.
I also know of people who travelled the world to find God's spirit and in fact one such person actually stole God's spirit from a remote island church such that God's spirit disappeared or wanned on that island.
Often the façade of the church hides the underlying sins that exist within that church.
Now I am not saying that a church should squash a genuine move of the spirit within it, but discernment is often needed.
I remember in one church service where a person went out the front and suggested that we had come into a holy place within the church service and that he had taken off his shoes because he felt that was the right thing to do, when the place had been made holy by God, and that the congregation should do likewise. Sadly, few if anyone in the congregation took their shoes off, and the gentleman sulked back to his pew and put his shoes back on because he he was embarrassed since on one followed the prompting that he had received.
When we sense a prompting from God through a move of the spirit within us, wisdom suggests that we should test that the spirit we sense is actually from God and ask for discernment to identify the source of that prompting sense.
Often when I sense God is speaking to me, it is not God yelling at me in a loud voice, but Him speaking quietly to me. When I act on that quite prompting from the Lord, it is only my responsibility to deliver that message, and then to walk away. How the message is received and is responded to, is not my responsibility.
I often have to ask myself when in Pentecostal Church services, "Why am I crying? Why do I sense that I should be crying when there is so much "joy" and "praise" in the room?" Often, I sense that my crying is a form of intercession for the congregation at that time and I do not necessarily receive words that I can use to convey what is happening in my spirit. In fact a couple of Sunday services ago, I began began to cry and so I got up and walked out of the room where the service was being conducted, because the people around me would not understand what I was sensing. It took me a couple of days to process why I was crying before I could convey my thoughts to another who would understand. A Sunday or so later, I had no sense that there was a need for me to cry on behalf of the Lord.
Angelina, my apologies for creating such a long response. But I find that I dance and sing praises to the Lord more so when I am alone with Him where no one else can see me doing so.
Shalom
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I have felt an immense love and peace that lasted for hours. It came with messages from God. It was unearthly. Is that an anointing?
That @devin553344 is God acknowledging to you that what you had heard is from him. It was no mistake. The anointing is very much like this. It gives you a sense of heavenly peace and his presence all wrapped up together....
OK, I've had that before. Is this something that happens at Pentecostal Church services?
Yes it does but in context. Sometimes someone may give another member a word because it's burning like fire in their heart and so they speak out and say it either in the service or after, what the Lord has said to them about the other member. It is confirmed in the heart of the person recieving. This confirmation is in the form of a strong acknowledgement in your heart, a ding, an anointing [like oil poured over the body] , an unction, a strong yes combined with a heavenly peace all wrapped together in the presence of God. Sometimes there is an aroma, perfume. Shekinah power, Dunamis power......
I have been smelling male and female perfume at times on my walks and no one is around. I kinda thought it might be angels that I couldn't see. Interesting.
My impression I get from you is that you are a faith bully...you seem to negate or counter any testimony of faith by members here. I would liken you to a "doubting Thomas" except he came to believe...you are a type of person that tries to put doubt on people's faith. That's a shame....*
Lambano
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Jay, I find this quite moving. This must be the "groanings too deep for words" from Romans 8:26.
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