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Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Bobby Jo, Nov 18, 2020.

  1. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    No, we're NOT in the Tribulation / Yes, we ARE in the Tribulation, -- how do we tell?

    • Some assert that WE NEED a Rebuild Temple / Some assert WE ARE the Temple
    • Some assert the Rev. 13 Beast is not here / Some assert the Rev. 13 Beast has been here since 1950
    • Some assert ... and the list goes on ...

    But if a person simply considered what CONSTITUTES "tribulation", it might boil down to UNCERTAINTY and CONFUSION as requisites. And if so, using the LEAST reliable PERCEPTIONS, could we at least agree as to SOME INDICATORS, like maybe:

    • Defund the Police
    • Shut down your business Constitutional right to Freedom and the Pursuit of Happiness
    • Force a person who has no sign of ILLNESS to wear a "mask"/quarantine
    • Restrict the number of immediate family members allowed to be together
    • Rampant Election Fraud
    • Mobs physically deface and tear down Historical Statues and Monuments
    • Cities taken over by mobs
    • Cities being burned while the Media declare the event as "mostly peaceful"
    • The electronic and print Media converted in to a Political Propaganda machine
    • One Political Party commits crimes and go unpunished
    • A different Political Party falsely accused of crimes and goes to jail.
    • ... and the list goes on ...

    It seems to me that Scripture (the Book of Psalms) substantiates the premise where this 19th Book of the Bible is prophetic for the 1900, and the Chapters are prophetic TO THE JEWS for the years, -- such that if someone simply considered whether this Book 19, Chapter 48 = 1948 International Recognition of the State of Israel; etc. And where a Dishonest person won't even "TRY THE SPIRITS TO SEE OF THE BE OF GOD OR NOT", an Honest person might read that Chapter in context with the Book of Psalms to see if there is a MORE ACCURATE DEPICTION of the events in 1948 or whether those Verses capture that History exactly as it transpired.

    And if that Honest person applied MORE History to the respective Chapters, (Note: 1967 "Six Day War" is not explicit because of the decade of Palestinian attacks), -- would that person find similarities in for example the 1991 (Ref. Psalms, Chapter 91) "Desert Storm"; or maybe the 1944 (Ref. Psalms, Chapter 44) Holocaust; etc.?


    I ask because some Jews saw the Pre-WWII eminent threat in Europe and fled. But others ignored the "red sky warnings" and PERISHED; and I wonder how many in the church are as the former, versus how many are of the latter; and if the latter, having been warned, are liable for their own blood.


    Are any EVEN AWARE; are any PAYING ATTENTION; are any TAKING PRECAUTIONS; and are any MAKING PREPARATIONS? And if not, -- should we?


    Bobby Jo
     
  2. David H.

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    Are you asserting that the victims of the Holocaust were "liable for their own blood"? You really have no idea what it was like for most of those victims do you? Most could not pick up and leave, and most did not have that ability to flee.

    The Beast system will be so all encompassing that there is no making war against it, it says so in scripture, the only escape is the wilderness for that 3.5 years. All the hunkering down and prepping you do will just make you a target, in the wilderness you will learn to trust the providence of God, that will be the best "prepping" any believer can do now, learn to hear what the Spirit is saying to the church.

    If any man have an ear, let him hear. He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. (Revelation 13:9-10)
     
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    DPMartin Well-Known Member

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    the scriptures are written by Jews to the Jews unless specified by the writer to some like gentiles.

    and the worse time (tribulation) that is commemorated continually is the holocaust which technically started on the night of the broken glass in 1938 to 7 years later 1945 when the war in Europe ended and the Jewish prisoners were relieved of their horror.
     
  4. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    Lke 22:36 He said to them, “But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one.

    If you disobey Scripture, your blood IS on your own head.

    Bobby Jo
     
  5. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    Psalm 44

    Bobby Jo
     
  6. David H.

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    yup, total ignorance! You are quite a piece of .... work. Bleesed are the poor in Spirit... Blessed are the meek....According to Bobby Jo blessed are the rich who can afford to escape tyranny....
     
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  7. Bobby Jo

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    (It's spelled "Blessed") -- are those who hear the Word of GOD and obey. Cursed are those who disobey.

    Bobby Jo
     
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    marks Well-Known Member

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    I've come to think that this final time period, I've come to call it the 70th week, with the second half being the time of great tribulation, that this period begins with sudden destruction, particularly a worldwide earthquake, which sets the stage for the beast to conquer.

    I think what we are seeing now are birth pangs, to become worse and worse, until Gog & Magog move against Israel, and then it begins.

    Much love!
     
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    marks Well-Known Member

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    All this part . . . this routinely happens in countries that are being subjected to socialist takeovers.

    Much love!
     
  10. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    My thought is, -- are we guessing? Take for instance your premise that the Tribulation starts when Russia invades Israel. You didn't cite any basis for your sequence and I would observe this could occur BEFORE, DURING, or at the END of the Tribulation. So do you have information you're not sharing?

    Do you think this WON'T happen during the Tribulation?

    Thanks!
    Bobby Jo
     
  11. David H.

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    Nit picking on typos now? Got nothing else to say? shows the weakness of your position. LOL

    This is the official birth of the banana republic of corruption. If there was any integrity in the election process, it is no longer there and the Propaganda arm has already declared the victor as they keep reminding us, tell a lie over and over again and they will believe it.... That includes all the major news networks including Fox news now, which was corrupted when Disney bought them out and they forbade people to speak of George Soros on their site.

    So what to do about it? Arm yourself as Bobby jo is advocating? Gun sales are through the roof already, and ammo is in short supply.... Or get right with God and take care of your eternal outcome over your temporal outcome. Some of us are living day to day and have no means to prepare to save ourselves, and where can we go if the U.S. becomes a socialist tyranical state? Into the wilderness, where we will have to learn to trust in the providence of God, or we can begin now to trust in His providence by fully submitting to His will. I choose the latter, he has not failed the sparrows, and we are more precious than sparrows to Him. I would rather die fighting for a heavenly kingdom than an earthly one, and lay up my treasure in heaven.

    Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified. But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters. Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. ( 1 Peter 4:12-19)

    It is my opinion that the Great tribulation is the first half of the week and is the sudden destruction that is spoken of. IMO the vaccines will be the MOB in that they will alter our DNA, and they will be mandatory to "buy and sell" and are even now being pushed. These will include a tagging nanochip that the person will receive which will be verified via 5g tracking. You will not be able to hide as the coverage will be worldwide. Right now, April 1st (fool's day) is the goal of this vaccination program which will be run by the military. Guillotines await those who refuse. False signs and wonders will also occur to deceive those who do not love the truth. I Hope my opinion is wrong, because many a church goer will go willingly to take the vaccine so that their life can remain normal hence the seduction of the MOB which most fail to see.

    So, let us say you have prepped and have a food supply stashed away somewhere so that you can avoid the MOB, How are you going to avoid the tracking software that is in your technology today? Are you ready to live without a cellphone, a computer? How will you make a living? How will you communicate if churches are shut down and your only means of communication is technology? Cash will largely be unused, you may be able to bribe a few with Gold and silver if you have any but even that is regulated and can be devalued, especially if a new global cryptocurrency is instituted. All the preparation you do will not be able to spare you. So as you can see I have been down the road of prepping, and there is not much that can avert what is coming, and so says scripture of the 42 months the beast and the False Prophet rule, and the saints will be around to face that, for the beast makes war on the saints and overcomes them. This is what we need to prepare for, not temporal cares of this world which will choke out the faith. This is the reality the church is not prepared for.

    The greatest survival skill any can have is to trust in the providence of God, the fowler has set the snare and the pit awaits the one who would run, But the ones carried on wings of eagles will fly, and not grow weary. A Word of "prophecy" if you can hear it.
    God bless.
     
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    marks Well-Known Member

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    Just as you've said, trust in our God right now today.

    Much love!
     
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    Lke 22:35 And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” 36 He said to them, “But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one.


    Still can't explain why you throw out Scripture?

    2 Tim. 3:16 All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.


    "All", except those Verses, Chapters, Books, and/or ENTIRE TESTAMENTS which don't suit @David H. :)


    As the knight said, -- "He chose poorly."
    Bobby Jo
     
  14. amigo de christo

    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    Lets examine that . What will tribulation look like .
    WELL GET READY , WE ABOUT TO SEE IT . The great tribulation comes full force and soon .
     
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    See WHAT? Aren't we already seeing the increasing travails where satan is working tirelessly against this President and this nation? And hasn't he thrown everything in his "play book"? -- You know at some point and time satan's going to have to come out himself instead of simply sending his minions:

    Rev. 11:7 And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends from the bottomless pit will make war upon them and conquer them and kill them ...

    :)
    Bobby Jo
     
  16. Bobby Jo

    Bobby Jo Well-Known Member

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    Everyone should have FAITH, -- but don't bother with the WORKS. FAITH is enough by itself! :rolleyes:

    Lke 22:36 He said to them,But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one.


    ... or is it? :confused:
    Bobby Jo
     
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    its barely in its infancy . The great tribulation i speak of , will mean death for many and death worldwide .
    ITS COMING bobby and yalls pope and all inclusive prostestants are leading the church right into the great lie
    which leadeth to the we are one , lets kill us some lambs mindset .
    This unity stuff IS TRASH from hell . And most churches , most every site is infected with it , to some degree .
    THE delusion IS HERE RIGHT NOW and it grows . SOON it will have run its course . THEN they will as one
    TURN on the lambs who conformed not . AND ITS at the door .
     
  18. marks

    marks Well-Known Member

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    I tend not to get too far into prophecy interpretation as everyone seems to have their own, at least the more you get into details. Anything I say that I think about prophecy I've got a Scripture or more in mind that supports it. Much of prophetic interpretation depends on how literally you interpret. For instance, that the angels are given the trumpets after the seals are opened procludes them from being concurrent, things like that.

    No, I wouldn't say that. Only that socialist takeovers have happened at times that weren't the 'Tribulation'.

    Much love!
     
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    marks Well-Known Member

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    Or is this very REALLY the prepper verse you believe it to be?

    I'm assuming we are both trusting God, even if what we are doing looks different.

    I think someone posted . . . God isn't supplying the same things to everybody.

    I'm pretty convinced that even without debateable interpretations of verses, that God is able to guide me.

    Much love!
     
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    marks Well-Known Member

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    To be clear . . . I don't criticize your preparations. It really seems to me that you are doing what you believe God to be directing you to do.

    Much love!
     
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