What's More Important Than Escaping ETERNAL Hell Fire?

[Beebster]

Fourth witness:

Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. (Isa 45:22)

 

[jeffweeder]

NOTHING!!!

Finding True repentance.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Re-read it slowly, maybe then, you'll comprehend it.

Why would I want to read lies?

I'll stick with God's Word.

I didn't say you made that claim.

You actually did when you said - "I do, however, reject your man-made doctrine that proclaims our Lord and Saviour to be the world's worst sinner."

Not only are you engaged in the false doctrine of universalism, but you enjoy lying too.

And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. (John 12:47)

So you think this means universalism is true?

You be sadly mistaken and fakin the bacon because your mind has been taken

2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

John 12:47 is simply saying Jesus wasn't judging while He was here in the flesh during His earthly ministry

 

[Beebster]

Fifth witness:

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and NOT FOR OURS ONLY, but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:2)

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Fifth witness:

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and NOT FOR OURS ONLY, but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:2)

So you think this means universalism is true?

Do you claim Jesus lied when He said - unless a person is born again, they cannot see the kingdom of God - John 3:3

 

[Beebster]

Why would I want to read lies?

I'll stick with God's Word.

Yet you re-read it and you actually cited it see:

You actually did when you said - "I do, however, reject your man-made doctrine that proclaims our Lord and Saviour to be the world's worst sinner."

That's funny.
Did you create that man-made doctrine centuries ago?
I didn't think so.

So you think this means universalism is true?

You be sadly mistaken and fakin the bacon because your mind has been taken

Whoa, are you rappin'?
If so, you might wanna keep your day-job.

John 12:47 is simply saying Jesus wasn't judging while He was here in the flesh during His earthly ministry

To quote Jesus:

-YE DO ERR, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. (Mat 22:29)

-the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. (John 6:63)

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. (Mat 24:35)

2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

That's true Big Boy.
And do you know what happens when we "appear before the judgment seat of Christ?"

Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. (1 Cor 3:13)

Ask yourself, who is it that tries us; who judges us?

Sixth witness:

If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; YET SO AS BY FIRE. (1 Cor 3:15)

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

That's funny.
Did you create that man-made doctrine centuries ago?
I didn't think so.

You claim I posted this false doctrine when you said - "I do, however, reject your man-made doctrine that proclaims our Lord and Saviour to be the world's worst sinner."

I never say the Lord was a sinner.

The demons you are led by are lying to you bud.

 

[Beebster]

So you think this means universalism is true?

No, witness after witness proves that Jesus Christ will save his creation.

Do you claim Jesus lied when He said - unless a person is born again, they cannot see the kingdom of God - John 3:3 View attachment 77866

Whatever gave you that idea?

 

[Beebster]

You claim I posted this false doctrine when you said - "I do, however, reject your man-made doctrine that proclaims our Lord and Saviour to be the world's worst sinner."

I never say the Lord was a sinner.

Ah, but the doctrine proclaims it.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Ah, but the doctrine proclaims it.

I never mentioned anything about any doctrine that teaches Jesus is a sinner.

Are you off your meds? You're hallucinating again

 

[Beebster]

I never mentioned anything about any doctrine that teaches Jesus is a sinner.

And I never mentioned the doctrine of "Universalism" but hey, hypocrites be hypocritten'.

Here is the doctrine you speak of "that proclaims our Lord and Saviour to be the world's worst sinner":

Get born again and live for Jesus or reject Him and be tormented in hell for all eternity

All the acts of the worst mass murderers in history combined don't even compare to this doctrine's final solution.

 

[Beebster]

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; (Col 1:16-19)

Seventh witness:

And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. (Col 1:20)

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

And I never mentioned the doctrine of "Universalism" but hey, hypocrites be hypocritten'.

Back peddlin I see

All the acts of the worst mass murderers in history combined don't even compare to this doctrine's final solution.

You'd better be careful before you end up being torments for eternity there with them

Annihilationism is false doctrine one embraces when satan convinces people Jesus lied about hell

And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. (Col 1:20)

So you think universalism is true after twisting this portion of scripture.

 

[Beebster]

Eighth witness:

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. (Rom 14:11)

 

[Beebster]

Ninth witness:

And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, WILL draw all men unto me. (John 12:32)

 

[Beebster]

Tenth witness:

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. (Rom 5:19)

 

[Jack]

Torments applies to that Which “has Life in it.”

Lets try again:

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night forever ....

 

[Jack]

When “death” is used as a metaphor for something else, the plain meaning of “death” obviously informs the meaning of the metaphor.

Sheesh, what do they teach kids in English classes these days?

When you have JW's agreeing with you you're really in trouble!

 

[Jack]

It is fallen Angels that ARE Spirits, which can Not Die, that are Tormented forever.

And you just confirmed "Tormented FOREVER"!

 

[Jack]

Not because of God, but because of Death.

Hell will be filled with BILLIONS of humans who don't believe in Hell.