Wheat and Tares

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The parable of the wheat and tares can be found in Matthew 13. The key verse in this parable is verse 25
…but while men slept…
there are several references in scripture to God’s people sleeping when they ought to be watching. The analogy in agriculture of course allows for a proper rest of sleep at the end of the day…its spiritual application, and in this particular parable with regards the gospel, does not allow for sleeping when the important matters of salvation and care for God’s redeemed church are paramount. The parable of the ten virgins springs to mind; Jesus’ warning in Mark 13:35-37 that His people not sleep when they ought to be watching for His coming; the disciples in the garden; Paul’s admonitions in Romans 13:11 and 1Thessalonians 5:6. The counsel being that we ought always be alert to dangers that could threaten the well being and health of the church.
….his enemy came…
traditionally the enemy referenced here is thought to be the devil. Although such a line of reasoning is quite appropriate, because the word used, ἐχθρός echthros, is very similar in meaning to 'enmity' as used in Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is ‘enmity’ ἔχθρα echthra with God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be, one could quite reasonably apply the word ‘enemy’ to anyone who has entered the church but has not fully forsaken sin and the carnal nature, and thus at ‘enmity’ with God. Such a ‘tare’
working in amongst God’s people could wreak havoc if allowed to continue without restraint, counsel, or censure. More on that later
...sowed tares among the wheat…a professed Christian who is living a lie, living according to his fleshly nature, and with unforsaken sin in his life, or perhaps false doctrinal understanding, may bring discord, strife, and compromise to the high standards required of a people sanctified and set apart for the gospel. Such people may remain hidden for some time, disguised as they are and accepted as genuine disciples. Some may even be elevated to positions of influence in the church as elders and/or teachers. In such a position a false teacher may well sow other tares.
...and went his way…Once a farmer sows seed, he doesn't need to do much more. He merely relies on nature to take its course. Thus anyone may come and go in the community of believers leaving behind them a well established mixed garden he need have no further business with. Those he leaves in his wake are well capable of continuing the problems he has generated. In forums these are called 'trolls'. They come and go and when they have done sufficient damage, they leave. While the more mature plants may not be affected, we do not know the influence they may have on younger members. I would not entirely recommend new Christians to make a habit of visiting forums until such time as they are settled in the faith, because of the nature of the beast, there are serious limitations the administrators can take in dealing with such problems. I have been on forums where for new members, restrictions were applied in that they could not access some discussions where matters could get heated or controversial, but does 100 posts, for example, eliminate the dangers?
The question therefore remains, "what do we do to prevent such a thing taking place in our own churches." The simple answer is, stay awake. And although in the parable Jesus advised that such tares, once established ought not be uprooted, to the observant pastor there must surely be signs of trouble manifesting in certain individuals lives and by remaining alert may be able to minimize the damage that may result from unguided or unrestrained influence among the other members. So is disfellowshipping a viable option for those who clearly are not in sync with church beliefs, church constitution, or acceptable behaviour, in light of the above parable? Perhaps not, unless the behaviour is clearly unacceptable and there are no signs of repentance or change.
The other important lesson from this parable lies in the context of harvest. Jesus stated that His angels will gather the tares first, be bundled up and burnt, leaving the wheat to be gathered into God’s presence. This flies in the face of the common belief of a rapture of God’s people prior to a time of tribulation, leaving the wicked to go through the crisis of the final plagues while all Christians are safe in heaven. No such hint of this scenario can be taken from the parable. The order is clear. Tares first, wheat last. This is in harmony with how God has previously dealt with sinful man, in separating such from His own people. Both in the great flood where Noah were witnesses to the destruction of the earth, and in Sodom and Gomorrah where Lot witnessed the destruction of the cities, the fate of the wicked was laid bare before witnesses that the justice and mercy of God would be made plain. The same scenario to an even greater extent can be found in the plagues that scourged Egypt prior to Israel’s escape from slavery. In all cases the redeemed people of God remained, were protected, while the wicked were the ones removed, or ‘taken away’. See also Luke 17:34-37.
 
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One could argue however if anyone entering the church who has not yet divested himself of the old nature and perhaps has some baggage from previous dubious faith paradigms, could he be considered an enemy as such simply because he is still at 'enmity' with God? One must use great wisdom to discern whether one is truly born again and working through his issues, or one who is on some ego trip and seeking to use the church as a self improvement program or means to increase his secular business by making more contacts or prospects. One you certainly leave in God's hands, the other...?
 

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Then there is the other kind of person that allows the cares of this world to interfere with a full consecration to God. Such are they who allow the weeds to overtake the wheat within themselves...so that they BECOME unfruitful. So then having started off well enough...they then shrink back due to the wonderful things God gives them AFTER coming to Christ. Grace is deceitful (to the natural man). (Prov. 31)

Righteousness then is a moving target.
 
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Then there is the other kind of person that allows the cares of this world to interfere with a full consecration to God. Such are they who allow the weeds to overtake the wheat within themselves...so that they BECOME unfruitful. So then having started off well enough...they then shrink back due to the wonderful things God gives them AFTER coming to Christ. Grace is deceitful (to the natural man). (Prov. 31)

Righteousness then is a moving target.
Reminds me of ancient Israel and God's admonition to them...and we have a "prosperity gospel"....go figure.
Deut. 8:7 For the LORD thy God bringeth thee into a good land, a land of brooks of water, of fountains and depths that spring out of valleys and hills;
8 A land of wheat, and barley, and vines, and fig trees, and pomegranates; a land of oil olive, and honey;
9 A land wherein thou shalt eat bread without scarceness, thou shalt not lack any thing in it; a land whose stones are iron, and out of whose hills thou mayest dig brass.
10 ¶ When thou hast eaten and art full, then thou shalt bless the LORD thy God for the good land which he hath given thee.
11 Beware that thou forget not the LORD thy God, in not keeping his commandments, and his judgments, and his statutes, which I command thee this day:
12 Lest when thou hast eaten and art full, and hast built goodly houses, and dwelt therein;
13 And when thy herds and thy flocks multiply, and thy silver and thy gold is multiplied, and all that thou hast is multiplied;
14 Then thine heart be lifted up, and thou forget the LORD thy God, which brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage;
15 Who led thee through that great and terrible wilderness, wherein were fiery serpents, and scorpions, and drought, where there was no water; who brought thee forth water out of the rock of flint;
16 Who fed thee in the wilderness with manna, which thy fathers knew not, that he might humble thee, and that he might prove thee, to do thee good at thy latter end;
17 And thou say in thine heart, My power and the might of mine hand hath gotten me this wealth.
18 But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as it is this day.
 
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Such a ‘tare’ working in amongst God’s people could wreak havoc if allowed to continue without restraint, counsel, or censure.
could they? among God's chosen? Of course you are right--by our definitions--but could they have wreaked havoc on Christ, for instance? Point being imo that anyone they could influence must have some tares of their own i guess. Meaning that they are maybe not so chosen after all. Or as chosen as anyone chooses to be, or something more like that?

"I'm doing God's will"
One you certainly leave in God's hands, the other...?
is it possible to be both, do you think?
 
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