Robert Gwin
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no! The most holy trinity!
There you have it sir, thank you for your honesty which truly sums it up. I worship and serve Jehovah exclusively as Jesus said Mat 4:10
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no! The most holy trinity!
JW’s are not biblical
There’s only one church it’s universal
Jn 10:16
There you have it sir, thank you for your honesty which truly sums it up. I worship and serve Jehovah exclusively as Jesus said Mat 4:10
We know the early church was scattered all over Asia.
Some Greece and Turkey, Syria, Iraq...
This is the physical location of Babylon...
Which if you follow the rivers in Genesis chapter one... it's also the Garden of Eden.
Interesting..
Imagine a war in the heart of Eden... shock and awe even.... just saying.
Babylon is the most famous city from ancient Mesopotamia whose ruins lie in modern-day Iraq 59 miles (94 kilometres) southwest of Baghdad. The name is thought to derive from bav-il or bav-ilim which, in the Akkadian language of the time, meant 'Gate of God' or 'Gate of the Gods' and 'Babylon' coming from Greek..
You ever wonder where Nimrod built his Tower to the Gods?
I love archeology.. I wish I had had a chance to learn and participate in it.
The ancient city owes its fame (or infamy) to the many references the Bible makes to it; all of which are unfavourable. In the Book of Genesis, chapter 11, Babylon is featured in the story of The Tower of Babel and the Hebrews claimed the city was named for the confusion which ensued after God caused the people to begin speaking in different languages so they would not be able to complete their great tower to the heavens (the Hebrew word bavel means 'confusion').
Babylon also appears prominently in the biblical books of Daniel, Jeremiah, and Isaiah, among others, and, most notably, The Book of Revelation. It was these biblical references which sparked interest in Mesopotamian archaeology and the expedition by the German archaeologist Robert Koldewey who first excavated the ruins of Babylon in 1899 CE.
Outside of the sinful reputation given it by the Bible, the ancient city is known for its impressive walls and buildings, its reputation as a great seat of learning and culture, the formation of a code of law which pre-dates the Mosaic Law, and for the Hanging Gardens of Babylon which were man-made terraces of flora and fauna, watered by machinery, which were cited by ancient writers as one of the Seven Wonders of the World.
Babylon
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Why the sudden attack on Jehovah's Witness organization? I'm not one of them.
I'm non-denominational, but I was raised in a mainstream Christian denomination.
cos it’s a heretical cult of arians
error must always be condemned
Two edged sword
To declare the truth and to condemn the error
there are no denominations, and you cannot find non-denominationalism in scripture only the one true church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18 18:18 Jn 20:21-23 eph 2:20 Jn 10:16
Well, just so you know, the Catholic Church DID NOT start with Apostle Peter, it was a much LATER creation by men.
The FIRST Christian Church in the western nations was in BRITAIN, and it was NOT catholic.
Furthermore, my ancestors from 15th century France were Huguenots, the first French Protestants who left the corrupt Catholic Church because of the stupid traditions of men that had taken it over! That Reformation in France, Germany, and England would give faithful Christians the 1611 King James Bible to study, while the Catholic Church PREVENTED its members from even reading God's Word (as still done in some Catholic dominated nations today, like Italy and Spain).
Well, just so you know, the Catholic Church DID NOT start with Apostle Peter, it was a much LATER creation by men.
The FIRST Christian Church in the western nations was in BRITAIN, and it was NOT catholic.
Furthermore, my ancestors from 15th century France were Huguenots, the first French Protestants who left the corrupt Catholic Church because of the stupid traditions of men that had taken it over! That Reformation in France, Germany, and England would give faithful Christians the 1611 King James Bible to study, while the Catholic Church PREVENTED its members from even reading God's Word (as still done in some Catholic dominated nations today, like Italy and Spain).
What stupid traditions of men?
the 5 Protestant dogmas? so called Solas?
Protestant doctrine is the doctrine of men, no so called reformer was an apostle or successors of the apostles Matt 16:18 18:18 Jn 20:-21-23 eph 2:20
No authority from Christ
Only Christ builds His church Matt 16:18 only one true church Jn 10:16
It is located in Baghdad, Iraq.Definitely not Rome then. I agree.
There were believers on Christ Jesus in the literal city of Babylon, and that's who Peter was addressing.
Not worth the time to even discuss it with someone so deceived. Go to your traditions of men. Gaze at all those pagan symbols instituted by the builders of your Catholic churches too!
We adhere to Apostle Paul's command too, to ONLY worship The Father through His Son. That means NO MARY WORSHIP like Catholics wrongly do!
Again, you openly admit that you reject Jesus' teaching at Mat 4:10. The first identifier of the Biblical faith is the first commandment. You will have no other gods before Him. That settles it sir.Athanasius Creed!
(From the early church)
Whoever desires to be saved must above all hold to the catholic faith.
Anyone who does not keep it whole and entire will doubtless perish eternally.
Now this is the catholic faith:
That we worship one God in trinity and the trinity in unity, neither blending their persons nor dividing their essence. For the person of the Father is a distinct person, the person of the Son is another,
and that of the Holy Spirit still another.
But the divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one, their glory equal, their majesty coeternal.
What quality the Father has, the Son has, and the Holy Spirit has. The Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, the Holy Spirit is uncreated.
The Father is immeasurable, the Son is immeasurable, the Holy Spirit is immeasurable.
The Father is eternal, the Son is eternal,
the Holy Spirit is eternal.
And yet there are not three eternal beings; there is but one eternal being.
So too there are not three uncreated or immeasurable beings, there is but one uncreated and immeasurable being.
Similarly, the Father is almighty, the Son is almighty, the Holy Spirit is almighty. Yet there are not three almighty beings;
there is but one almighty being.
Thus the Father is God,
the Son is God,
the Holy Spirit is God.
Yet there are not three gods;
there is but one God.
Thus the Father is Lord,
the Son is Lord,
the Holy Spirit is Lord.
Yet there are not three lords;
there is but one Lord.
Just as Christian truth compels us
to confess each person individually
as both God and Lord, so catholic religion forbids us to say that there are three gods or lords.
The Father was neither made nor created nor begotten from anyone. The Son was neither made nor created; he was begotten from the Father alone. The Holy Spirit was neither made nor created nor begotten; he proceeds from the Father and the Son.
Accordingly there is one Father, not three fathers; there is one Son, not three sons;
there is one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits.
Nothing in this trinity is before or after,
nothing is greater or smaller; in their entirety the three persons are coeternal and coequal with each other.
So in everything, as was said earlier,
we must worship their trinity in their unity and their unity in their trinity.
Anyone then who desires to be saved
should think thus about the trinity.
But it is necessary for eternal salvation
that one also believe in the incarnation
of our Lord Jesus Christ faithfully.
Now this is the true faith:
That we believe and confess
that our Lord Jesus Christ, God's Son,
is both God and human, equally.
He is God from the essence of the Father,
begotten before time; and he is human from the essence of his mother, born in time; completely God, completely human, with a rational soul and human flesh; equal to the Father as regards divinity, less than the Father as regards humanity.
Although he is God and human,
yet Christ is not two, but one.
He is one, however, not by his divinity being turned into flesh, but by God's taking humanity to himself.He is one,
certainly not by the blending of his essence, but by the unity of his person.
For just as one human is both rational soul and flesh, so too the one Christ is both God and human.
He suffered for our salvation; he descended to hell; he arose from the dead; he ascended to heaven; he is seated at the Father's right hand; from there he will come to judge the living and the dead. At his coming all people will arise bodily and give an accounting of their own deeds. Those who have done good will enter eternal life, and those who have done evil will enter eternal fire.
This is the catholic faith:
one cannot be saved without believing it firmly and faithfully.
Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God of hosts!
@Ziggy Interesting thoughts there...It is located in Baghdad, Iraq.
It wasn't known as Iraq at that time, but was under Roman rule.
All of Asia was subjected to Rome.
The United States isn't just Washington, DC.
It was the Kingdom of Rome, not the City.
Babylon was Rome before it was called Rome.
Iraq is the heart or the center of Babylon. geologically speaking.
If you follow the rivers which went forth from the "garden" and split into 4 heads..
the "Garden" or "Paradise" is located in Iraq.
I went a journey one day with Abraham from the country of Ur from which the Lord called him.
And I walked the terrain from town to town.
When God told Abraham to look over the land and all that he saw would be given him,
this included present day Iraq.
When Jesus was crucified outside the gate...
Jesus told one benefactor that today thou shalt be with me in "Paradise" .
Paradise is the Garden of Eden which is located in Babylon, which is in Iraq.
Shock and Awe.. means so much more than just a war...
That's just how my travels led me..
Somewhere along the line we planted a Tamarisk tree too, and it made the waters bitter.
Interesting Journey...
anywhoo
I believe spiritually speaking, Babylon is the carnal heart before it is reborn into the Garden we call Paradise.
just my thoughts..
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C H Spurgeon wrote of 'the Popish lumber of self-righteousness', concealed in the human heart.
Again, you openly admit that you reject Jesus' teaching at Mat 4:10. The first identifier of the Biblical faith is the first commandment. You will have no other gods before Him. That settles it sir.