Billy Evmur
Active Member
Hi Billy,
I am not claiming a succession for Paul. Scripture claims succession of the Apostles in Acts 1:21-26, 1 Corinthians 11:2, 2 Thessalonians 2:15 and how it was administered in 1 Timothy 4:14 and how they were not to be hasty about it in 1 Timothy 5:22.
You are right in that their teaching was "not to be changed but committed to faithful MEN who will teach others". But when those men disagree on that teaching according to Scripture how was that disagreement to be handled Billy? Matthew 18:17 tells us to take it to The Church. That is what happened at the Council of Jerusalem. They took their differences to The Church. The Church (elders of The Church) decided what all Christians are to believe/practice. What Church elder made the statement in Acts 15:11 that affirmed what everyone else believed? It was only ONE person who made that final proclamation!! If there wasn't that one person to make that final proclamation on what all are to believe/practice then the Apostles would still be arguing today. That is why there are several thouasand denominations because men disagreed with The Church and broke away. Then the men that broke away started disagreeing with those me and broke away from that church and so on and so on until we have the mess we have today.
What Church do you obey and do you believe has the authority to treat someone as a pagan or tax collector if they don't adhere to Church teaching?
I agree with you that you can't change the foundation and that it can only be built upon. Clearly thru your studies you have eliminated The Catholic Church as The Church that was built upon that foundation. Have you found The Church that was built upon the teachings of the Apostles?
Also, you did not address my other two question:
I am also curious what man taught you your theory? Or are you self taught?
Mary
Yes the church, all the apostles and prophets gathered and discussed the matter, James who was chairing the assembly says "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and us ..."
You can certainly argue that the protest against the sale of indulgences was a matter to be brought before the whole church. It was the Pope and his fellows who were in the wrong. Did they listen?
Supposed RCC unity is a nonsense, you have a myriad of sects fighting against each other. The pro consular, the anti consular, the liberals, the conservative, the feminists, the traditionist, the modernisers etc etc
The diversity of denominations is no problem to us the conglomerate RRC is a problem. In every denomination we recognise those who have been saved, born again, even in the RCC. Fellowship with Jesus is the important thing.