Who is : "Made perfect"

[Behold]

Participating in a discussion board and posting scripture is “spam” now?

What would you call all those long winded posts of yours?

I was not aware that scripture in a bible has A picture.
Maybe a children's bible ?

Also, my Posts and Threads are detailed.
They are instruction.

Did you know that the longest chapter in the Bible, is talking about the "word" of God?
That subject, = the longest chapter in the Bible.

 

[Behold]

Yes, so were they Justified before God by Christs Offering before they were regenerated and become believers ?

To receive God's Salvation, who is Christ on the Cross, died, then resurrected..... = We have to do what God requires that we do.

"FAITH... is counted as Righteousness"....

We give God our faith, and God gives us : "Justification BY faith" based on the Cross of Christ.

 

[brightfame52]

View attachment 33020

No, it only applies to people for whom Christ died. His Elect or Sheep

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Also, my Posts and Threads are detailed.
They are instruction.

 

[Behold]

No, it only applies to people for whom Christ died. His Elect or Sheep

John 3:16 says that God gave Christ on the Cross to the WORLD.......

Jesus said..>"if i be lifted up, (on the Cross) i will draw ALL people to me"...

So, this means that the OFFER of Salvation is universal, its given to the world, to ALL people.
But not all will believe.

God allows for this.......He allows each of us to BELIEVE or not.

A.) Free Will

B.) Free Will

 

[brightfame52]

John 3:16 says that God gave Christ on the Cross to the WORLD.......

Jesus said..>"if i be lifted up, (on the Cross) i will draw ALL people to me"...

So, this means that the OFFER of Salvation is universal, its given to the world, to ALL people.
But not all will believe.

God allows for this.......He allows each of us to BELIEVE or not.

A.) Free Will

B.) Free Will

I see you believe the false gospel of freewill, salvation conditioned on man.

 

[brightfame52]

To receive God's Salvation, who is Christ on the Cross, died, then resurrected..... = We have to do what God requires that we do.

"FAITH... is counted as Righteousness"....

We give God our faith, and God gives us : "Justification BY faith" based on the Cross of Christ.

This is salvation conditioned on man and requirements. Sounds like you under the law after all

 

[Behold]

I see you believe the false gospel of freewill, salvation conditioned on man.

No.

Salvation is offered through The Cross of Christ

The Cross is offered to the World.

John 3:16

Calvin hated the Cross., and that is why He limited it..

 

[Behold]

This is salvation conditioned on man and requirements. Sounds like you under the law after all

Everyone is under the law, until they are born again as "no longer under the Law, but under GRACE".

"Christ is the END of THE LAW, for Righteousness, for everyone who BELIEVES".

See that "Believes"?
You have to do that first, and then God does the rest.

 

[Heart2Soul]

@Michiah-Imla, @Behold....Both of you are determined to present your doctrine of belief to each other without wavering. It is time to simply agree to disagree and move on.
@Michiah-Imla ... the use of a meme to establish your viewpoint is neither valid nor scriptural and in my opinion it is offensive to the solid truth in scripture.
Meme's tend to be a demonstration of disrespect and disregard to the topic at hand. There is a meme thread if you want to communicate your thoughts in such a way.
Scripture used in context will always lead you to the truth.

 

[brightfame52]

No.

Salvation is offered through The Cross of Christ

The Cross is offered to the World.

John 3:16

Calvin hated the Cross., and that is why He limited it..

This is man exalting salvation !

 

[brightfame52]

Everyone is under the law, until they are born again as "no longer under the Law, but under GRACE".

"Christ is the END of THE LAW, for Righteousness, for everyone who BELIEVES".

See that "Believes"?
You have to do that first, and then God does the rest.

You a debtor to do the whole law friend, good luck with that.

 

[Heart2Soul]

This is man exalting salvation !

Is that wrong? What message were the disciples commanded to preach? That the Kingdom of God is near...to preach the gospel to every nation.

The Great Commission
Matthew 28 (KJV)
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
¹⁶ Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
¹⁷ And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
¹⁸ And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
¹⁹ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
²⁰ Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

 

[Heart2Soul]

What is the gospel message?
The word gospel means “good news,” which is the message of forgiveness for sin through the atoning work of Jesus Christ. It is essentially God’s rescue plan of redemption for those who will trust in His divine Son in order to be reconciled to a just and holy God. The essential content of this saving message is clearly laid out for us in the Bible.

 

[Behold]

This is man exalting salvation !

When Jesus was on the Cross, and about to die, He said. "It is Finished"..

So, this that is finished is : Salvation.

Its Jesus, He is our Salvation..... and Jesus should be exalted.

When Paul said He "Preaches the Cross"... And "the Preaching of the Cross is Foolishness to those who are hell bound"...

He is not Preaching the wood, or the Tree.

He is Preaching "Christ Crucified".

He is preaching the FINISHED SALVATION that Jesus completed by His Blood and Death.

This is the "Cross of Christ" or the "Preaching of the Cross".

When we kneel before the Cross, we are not kneeling before the wood.
We are keeling before the SAVIOR, who is 'Christ on the Cross".
Its more then symbolic........as we PREACH The Cross, as ....>"The Gospel of the Grace of God".

 

[Behold]

You a debtor to do the whole law friend, good luck with that.

"Christ has redeemed the born again from the Curse of the Law".

The Born again "are not under the Law, but under Grace".

"Christ is the END OF THE LAW, for RIGHTEOUSNESS< to everyone who Believes".

The born again, exist "in Christ"..."one with God", and "In the Kingdom of God".... = There is no Moses LAW there., exactly as there was no Moses law in the Garden of Eden.

 

[brightfame52]

Is that wrong? What message were the disciples commanded to preach? That the Kingdom of God is near...to preach the gospel to every nation.

The Great Commission
Matthew 28 (KJV)
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
¹⁶ Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
¹⁷ And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
¹⁸ And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
¹⁹ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
²⁰ Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Is man exalting wrong ? Yes, Christ performs all of Salvation friend.

 

[Behold]

Is man exalting wrong ? Yes, Christ performs all of Salvation friend.

And dont forget that Christ keeps you saved., as that is the part that only real faith apprehends.

 

[brightfame52]

"Christ has redeemed the born again from the Curse of the Law".

The Born again "are not under the Law, but under Grace".

"Christ is the END OF THE LAW, for RIGHTEOUSNESS< to everyone who Believes".

The born again, exist "in Christ"..."one with God", and "In the Kingdom of God".... = There is no Moses LAW there., exactly as there was no Moses law in the Garden of Eden.

Anyone Christ died for is redeemed from the curse of the law. That occurs by His death alone, He being made a curse Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

The New Birth is the fruit.

 

[Behold]

Anyone Christ died for is redeemed from the curse of the law. That occurs by His death alone, He being made a curse Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

The New Birth is the fruit.

All the born again are the Heritage of the Lord.
We are all His workmanship, created as a new creation "in Christ" for good works.
We are His Bride, and His body.
We are His friend.
Disciples are followers.
Christians are "Sons/Daughters".