Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

[ewq1938]

Does the old man get destroyed when someone accepts Christ and the day star arises in their hearts?

Not at the second coming which is when the one man of sin is destroyed by Jesus.

2 Peter 1:19
have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

2 Thessalonians 2 is about the day of Christ, "the day dawning and the day star arising in our hearts". If it was about the day of the Lord the bible would have said - That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Lord is at hand.

Am I seeing that right?

 

[William Barton]

"Antichrist" has several other epithets:
o. man of lawlessness
o. son of perdition
o. beast
o. little horn
o. deceiver
o. false Christ
o. vile/despicable person
o. worthless shepherd

 

[CTK]

"Antichrist" has several other epithets:
o. man of lawlessness
o. son of perdition
o. beast
o. little horn
o. deceiver
o. false Christ
o. vile/despicable person
o. worthless shepherd

William, who is he?
When does he arrive?
Where does he come from?
Where does God reveal to us everything about him?

 

[IndianaRob]

What they did was isolate people and with a laptop looking for MAC addresses the people approached the laptop one by one...and the people with the Jab registered a MAC address.
In another test they even went to cemeteries and fresh graves were emitting a MAC address.

My best answer is when they turn it on.
I believe the nano-particles are just one element of the beast system.
The Lucerase tattoo...or what it becomes... could be part of activating the nano-particles. These answers are currently unknown.

I would imagine pretty soon we will all be subjected to the tokenized programmable CBDC as there are several scenarios that may get us there.

So in your view turning on the tech is the mark? I’m trying to pin down what you think the MOB is.

 

[Earburner]

So Jesus is destroyed by that fire?

Are you being "willingly ignorant"?
Jesus Himself is that Eternal flaming and consuming fire.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Different context.

You don't have a whole bunch of people going into the rebuilt temple and claiming to b god.

You completely missed the point. I'm not saying 2 Timothy 3:16-17 has the same context as 2 Thessalonians. I'm showing that a reference to "the man of God" does not refer to an individual man, so you should consider that the reference to "the man of sin" does not have to refer to an individual man, either.

 

[William Barton]

William, who is he?
When does he arrive?
Where does he come from?
Where does God reveal to us everything about him?

IMO:
o. "Anti" in "Anti-Christ" = "false" i.e. "false Christ."
o. He is a charismatic person, probably Middle-Eastern
o. He will achieve a peace treaty in the Middle East (amazing!).
o. He will oversee construction of the Jewish temple.
o. He will then take his seat in the temple proclaiming to be God.
o. These things will make his appearance obvious.
o. He will bring forces to the the plain of Armageddon.
o. He will thrown into the lake of fire, earth's interior.
o. It is extremely hot there, 5000 Centigrade at the core.
o. Jesus died on an Israeli blood moon, and will return on one.
o. I see an internet article by Thomas Ice (Compass International) entitled "The Eight Stages of Armageddon."

 

[PeterAndroz]

The antichrist will be a man of peace..wink, wink...when he first comes on the scene.
He will make or enhance a current "peace" plan or process for the middle east and Israel...I think people will love the guy.

Rev 6: 2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse! And its rider had a bow, and a crown was given to him, and he came out conquering, and to conquer.

He conquerers with a bow....notice no arrows.

Yes, he will have many fooled and before long he will be the one revealed to the whole world inc Fiji, New Guinea etc then comes the MOTB

 

[CrowCross]

So in your view turning on the tech is the mark? I’m trying to pin down what you think the MOB is.

No. It's simply part of the system.
I think the tech will be turned on prior to the mark.

As to what the mark is....I don't know, but, there appears to be some hints that I've pointed out.

 

[CrowCross]

You completely missed the point. I'm not saying 2 Timothy 3:16-17 has the same context as 2 Thessalonians. I'm showing that a reference to "the man of God" does not refer to an individual man, so you should consider that the reference to "the man of sin" does not have to refer to an individual man, either.

The verbage around 2 Thes 3:7 suggest he is a man. If you don't agree, then fine.

 

[CrowCross]

Yes, he will have many fooled and before long he will be the one revealed to the whole world inc Fiji, New Guinea etc then comes the MOTB

Do you think Rev is linear? I've always thought the MOTB came in the middle of the trib...but lately I've been wondering if it doesn't come closer to the beginning.

I have to look into it.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The verbage around 2 Thes 3:7 suggest he is a man. If you don't agree, then fine.

I don't agree. And we can agree to disagree. But, just remember that any future physical temple cannot be the temple of God. In scripture, the temple of God is always a temple that God ordains and dwells in. That includes the spiritual temple of God, which is the church (Ephesians 2:19-22).