Who is the AntiChrist? (Identifying Him)

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ewq1938

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Nope. You will NOT find one antichrist and one false prophet to fit your flawed doctrine...just like many false prophets before you with their assumptions. Good luck.


Both antichrist and false prophet are singular, proving they are speaking about a singular person. It is flawed doctrine and doctrinal bias that forces you to deny these obvious truths. You deny a singular and future AC despite scripture speaking of that.

All false doctrines in some way deny the future and singular antichrist.
 
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The beast of the earth has TWO HORNS. There are two men. One is the Antichrist and one is the false prophet.

Rev 13
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.


Everything written about the earth beast shows he is one person. The two horns symbolize that he will be a king in two ways. Some believe he will be a peaceful king, then later become a violent king, and some believe it has to do with one person being the 7th and 8th king mentioned in Rev 17.

Also, the AC and FP are two names for the same person which oddly enough could also be what the two horns symbolize.
 

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So the idols and pagan rites and rituals and pagan doctrines spread through the corrupted church should be excused....hmm.
Did 'beth-avens' (houses of vanity) exist back in the days of God's Old Testament prophets? Yes! Did "false brethren unawares brought in" exist in the Church during Apostle Paul's days? Yes! (see Galatians 2; Acts 15).

Paganism has not ONLY... crept into the Catholic Church. It has also in many Protestant Churches! (I wish I still had the photo of a Chicago newspaper clipping a Chicago police detective sent me years ago, showing 3 Buddhist monks chanting mantras standing in front of the Communion table in a PROTESTANT Church.)

So it's time to get out of your deceived shell, and study up on this matter in God's Word, for those in Christ were warned about it, especially for the end of days. Even Christ's seven Messages to the seven Churches in Asia reveal that He was pleased with only two out of those seven Churches. And those seven Messages are to be applied to all... Christian Churches today so as to know what kind of Church one is in.
 

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Also, the AC and FP are two names for the same person which oddly enough could also be what the two horns symbolize.

Even more so, per Zechariah 6 with it pointing to The "BRANCH" (Jesus Christ) being a king and a priest upon his throne.

Trying to recall pagan history... the Taro card of the Heirophant is from the ancient Greek mysteries. The symbolic image shows a ruler sitting upon a throne between two pillars. All different kinds of interpretations are said about its meaning. However, what it ultimately represents is the usurping of the Throne of Jesus Christ, as King of kings, and Lord of lords. That's the position that Jesus' earthly throne represents, as both King and High Priest upon His future throne on earth. Satan wants that throne for himself.
 

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What is God's definition of the horns in Scripture?
Daniel 7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Revelation 17
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

Daniel 7
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

I think its cut and dried what these horns are.
 

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Everything written about the earth beast shows he is one person. The two horns symbolize that he will be a king in two ways. Some believe he will be a peaceful king, then later become a violent king, and some believe it has to do with one person being the 7th and 8th king mentioned in Rev 17.

Also, the AC and FP are two names for the same person which oddly enough could also be what the two horns symbolize.
That's probably what 99.99999999999999999999999999999999% of all people think. However the 10 horns are 10 kings. The two horns are two men.

We can prove that with scripture. The Antichrist comes to his end before the 6th seal, which is before the wrath of God. The false prophet is cast into the Lake of Fire at the end of Gods wrath.

Daniel 11
45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

Daniel 12
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Revelation 19
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

In summary, the beast of the earth has two horns and is two men. One {the Antichrist) comes to his end at the end of the great tribulation and one (the false prophet) is cast into the lake of fire. The beast of the sea is also cast into the lake of fire.

And did I miss your answer what I used scripture to prove that Nimrod was the day star, or did you just not respond. Some times I don't get notice that someone responded and come across it later. If you did could you tell me the post number. If you didn't that's ok.
 

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That's probably what 99.99999999999999999999999999999999% of all people think. However the 10 horns are 10 kings. The two horns are two men.

Two men are not called one prophet though so it's one man who has two symbolic horns. Men have been elected President more than once so think of it in that sense.


We can prove that with scripture. The Antichrist comes to his end before the 6th seal, which is before the wrath of God. The false prophet is cast into the Lake of Fire at the end of Gods wrath.


Both beasts are cast into fire at the same time, Rev 19.

And did I miss your answer what I used scripture to prove that Nimrod was the day star, or did you just not respond. Some times I don't get notice that someone responded and come across it later. If you did could you tell me the post number. If you didn't that's ok.


I didn't respond because I didn't feel you offered any evidence in that post so I let it go.
 
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Two men are not called one prophet though so it's one man who has two symbolic horns.
No. It is two horns, hence two men.
Both beasts are cast into fire at the same time, Rev 19.
No. The beast of the sea and the false prophet, one of the horns is cast into the lake of fire at the same time.

Here is the other horn, the antichrist coming to his end

Daniel 11
45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
I didn't respond because I didn't feel you offered any evidence in that post so I let it go.
Thanks for saving me the time looking. However, I thought scripture was clear that the fir trees rejoice when Nimrod, the king of babylon, the Assyrian is cut down. When you continue reading that makes him the day star. In addition, in the Babylonian religion Nimrod is the sun at His death and it is a ray of the sun that is claimed to impregnate Semiramis his wife mother.
 

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No. It is two horns, hence two men.


They are men when it's the 7 headed kingdom beast, explained by Rev 17 but we cannot say it's the same when horns are described as part of one person. The false prophet with two little horns of a lambkin cannot represent himself and one completely different person unless they are conjoined twins




No. The beast of the sea and the false prophet, one of the horns is cast into the lake of fire at the same time.


No, the false prophet who symbolically has two little horns is cast into the LOF with the first beast. The bible doesn't ever split up the horns like you are doing.



Thanks for saving me the time looking. However, I thought scripture was clear that the fir trees rejoice when Nimrod, the king of babylon, the Assyrian is cut down.

It's not speaking of Nimrod. Only a Nimrod would think that :) Sorry, I had to make the joke...

When you continue reading that makes him the day star. In addition, in the Babylonian religion Nimrod is the sun at His death and it is a ray of the sun that is claimed to impregnate Semiramis his wife mother.


Nimrod is not the daystar in the bible.
 
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Fictional characters are not real. Asking who they are is pointless. Nimrod was not a fictional character. Giving Nimrod fictional attributes is pointless. Nimrod was the great grandson of Noah. Was Noah a fictional character? Was the ark and Flood fictional?
Is the religion of Babylon fictional?
Now you go and find fictional characters in Scripture and want to call oranges, apples.
Do you think the Word of God would waste it's time on fictional characters. Babylon is the hammer of the whole earth because the religion of Babylon is all over the earth. Nothing whatsoever fictional about the Babylonian religion.
I pointed out that there were false gods that Israel turned away from God to follow. But false gods are not real, even if they have names. Nimrod lived over 1000 years prior to the time of Jeremiah.
Yes, and Jeremiah wrote about him. And today people still cut down the fir tree and decorate it not realizing that it represents Nimrod.
 

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Now we know that this kingdom of Greece was led by Alexander the Great, whose kingdom was divided into four section which history shows, with four of his generals as kings. This is represented by the four heads of the leopard. So now we have to identify the fourth beast, or fourth part of the image king Nebuchadnezzar dreamed of. Well think about this, what kingdom was in power when Jesus came as the promised Messiah? It was the kingdom of Rome, on this there is no question. And it was Rome that conquered the kingdom of Greece and began to rule the world, and we see the 'legs' of iron and clay in countries still here today. No other beast rose up after this beast, and the only kingdom that would rule after it would be the kingdom of God, as we see the Stone that crushes them at the end. So lets look at history and see what more it tells us.
Something you might be missing, see how Alex the Great's Greece Beast was said to conquer the whole world (EARTH) being spoken about in the 7 Headed 10 Horned Region? Well, Greece never did that, they only conquered half the Mediterranean Sea Region (MSR), meanwhile Rome conquered every square inch of the MSR, so this end time Anti-Christ is a 5th Beast, a Little Horn called a "Beast Man" in Dan. 7:11 and Rev. 19:20. So, I know you have heard of SHADOWS of things to come right? Lets look for this.

Both Greece and Rome were Beasts at the same time right? Think about it. Antiochus was over Israel, whilst Rome was the Stronger Regional Beast overall. So, this shadow tells us that the End Time Beast will have to come out of both Greece and Rome. Dan. 8:9 says this Little Horn arises from Greece, how so? Because it says he conquers towards the East, South and Israel (Pleasant Land) thus he can only conquer from Cassander or Greece. And in Dan. 7:7-8 we are told the Little Horn arises from the political realm of the Fourth Beasts Head, amongst the 10 Horns/Kings or Powers that arise before he is born (arises) thus the 10 = Complete E.U. Reunited, not 10 nations. And of course Greece is in the E.U. (Rome's offshoot)

So, by having two beasts exist at one time 2200 years or so ago, that was a shadow of the End Time A.C. Beast, he will be born in Greece and come to power in the E.U. He will also have Assyrian blood, meaning he's an Iraqi/Turk whose family at some point migrated to Greece.

Everything points to an End Time Beast who has Assyrian blood, is born in Greece, which is in the E.U.
 

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Is the religion of Babylon fictional?

Do you think the Word of God would waste it's time on fictional characters. Babylon is the hammer of the whole earth because the religion of Babylon is all over the earth. Nothing whatsoever fictional about the Babylonian religion.

Yes, and Jeremiah wrote about him. And today people still cut down the fir tree and decorate it not realizing that it represents Nimrod.
Yes, all religion is a fictional view of reality. Religions come out of some person's imagination.

If people don't realize something, then how can it be real? You are the one trying to make a big deal out of fictional belief systems.

Is mentioning Satan, a real being, also a waste of time in God's Word? Should God's Word only include perfection and obedience, and leave out man's wicked imaginations?

Humans act out wickedness in all sorts of ways, but creating fake reality is a waste of time, and then claiming that falsehood is real, is a further waste of time. Demons are real, and being possessed by them is real. Making this reality some kind of believable mythology is only human imagination.

Jeremiah used symbolism. However if you think symbolism was placed in God's Word to validate mythology, that would be a wrong interpretation.
 

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It does with the false prophet. Prophet is singular. Everything written about the FP shows he is a single person matching John's singular antichrist and Paul's singular man of sin.
I don't think we need to worry too much about him as it will be pretty clear to the saints he is giving that which is not of God.
 
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Did 'beth-avens' (houses of vanity) exist back in the days of God's Old Testament prophets? Yes! Did "false brethren unawares brought in" exist in the Church during Apostle Paul's days? Yes! (see Galatians 2; Acts 15).

Paganism has not ONLY... crept into the Catholic Church. It has also in many Protestant Churches! (I wish I still had the photo of a Chicago newspaper clipping a Chicago police detective sent me years ago, showing 3 Buddhist monks chanting mantras standing in front of the Communion table in a PROTESTANT Church.)

So it's time to get out of your deceived shell, and study up on this matter in God's Word, for those in Christ were warned about it, especially for the end of days. Even Christ's seven Messages to the seven Churches in Asia reveal that He was pleased with only two out of those seven Churches. And those seven Messages are to be applied to all... Christian Churches today so as to know what kind of Church one is in.
Yes, and using ecuninism, the antiChrist entity is slowly bringing them into apostasy again..
 

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Yes, and using ecuninism, the antiChrist entity is slowly bringing them into apostasy again..
The final Antichrist is not here on earth yet.

Those you are referring to are the "many antichrists" already at work, Paul's "mystery of iniquity". Those are just servants of The Antichrist who will only appear in Jerusalem at the very end of this world.
 

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The final Antichrist is not here on earth yet.

Those you are referring to are the "many antichrists" already at work, Paul's "mystery of iniquity". Those are just servants of The Antichrist who will only appear in Jerusalem at the very end of this world.
The "final Antichrist" is a counter-Reformation fabrication by the antichrist who has been on earth for more than 1,500 years.

The apostate papacy.

John's antichrists are not mythical servants of a mythical future antichrist.

They are actual antichrists who were already present when John wrote, and have been ever since.
 

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Both antichrist and false prophet are singular, proving they are speaking about a singular person. It is flawed doctrine and doctrinal bias that forces you to deny these obvious truths. You deny a singular and future AC despite scripture speaking of that.

All false doctrines in some way deny the future and singular antichrist.
You are being a little too dogmatic as the Bible shows consistently a separation between them...
Revelation 16:13
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

Revelation 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
 

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Who is the AntiChrist? (Identifying Him)​

Recognising the AntiChrist out there only become obvious when the AntiChrist is recognised in the human heart.
Our self obsession, ie, worship of self, survival of the fittest attitudes ensures one will never recognise the AntiChrist out there, in fact one will worship him because he resonates with the natural hearts desires.

The Spirit of self sacrifice is the Spirit of Jesus and those who have embraced this reality are those who recognise the AntiChrist.

An aside out of interest, 666 = man, man, man.
 

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You are being a little too dogmatic as the Bible shows consistently a separation between them...


All those show is that satan is separate from the beast (a kingdom) and separate from rthe3 second beast (also known as the AC).

Yes all three are separate. There is no way to make a kingdom (the first beast(into a man. There's only one man who is found in all passages dealing with the one we commonly call the AC.

If the ten horned beast in Daniel isn't a person, nor is the ten horned beast in Rev. Neither is the AC. The AC is always the next one introduced who rules the ten horned beast. In Daniel it is the little horn. In Rev it is the beast with two little horns. It shouldn't be difficult unless a false doctrine is defended.
 
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Who is the AntiChrist? (Identifying Him)​

Recognising the AntiChrist out there only become obvious when the AntiChrist is recognised in the human heart.
Our self obsession, ie, worship of self, survival of the fittest attitudes ensures one will never recognise the AntiChrist out there, in fact one will worship him because he resonates with the natural hearts desires.

The Spirit of self sacrifice is the Spirit of Jesus and those who have embraced this reality are those who recognise the AntiChrist.

An aside out of interest, 666 = man, man, man.


It is 600 60 and 6 which in Greek means to add them so one number of 666, not three individual 6's.