Who is the son?

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Truther

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Incarnationists think God was justa passin' through...
 

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I don't deny that.
Then you think God made Jesus per a sperm cell, which impregnated Mary's egg cell.

Excellent.

This means the begotten Son of God, son of man and son of David that Jesus went by.... was legit.
 

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Then you think God made Jesus per a sperm cell, which impregnated Mary's egg cell.

Excellent.

This means the begotten Son of God, son of man and son of David that Jesus went by.... was legit.
Mary gave birth to Jesus, God in the flesh. It was a miracle. Can you really explain a miracle from God?
 

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Mary gave birth to Jesus, God in the flesh. It was a miracle. Can you really explain a miracle from God?
Sure.

Read Matt 1.

God CONCEIVED in her.

Conception involves a woman's egg cell.

At least 2000 years ago it did....
 

kcnalp

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Then you don't think that God was made flesh(microscopic to eventual baby).

Good.
John 3:13 (NKJV)
13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.
 

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Incarnstionists think God inserted Himself in Mary as a fully developed, self fertilized, microscopic man. No egg cell involved.
 

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Incarnstionists think God inserted Himself in Mary as a fully developed, self fertilized, microscopic man. No egg cell involved.
1 Corinthians 2:14 (NKJV)
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 

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John 3:13 (NKJV)
13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.
Yes.

The MAN Christ Jesus was in heaven as he was on earth.

The entire O.T. speaks of the man Christ Jesus actively around in heaven,

He was even born before Cain/Abel were born per Col 1.

God/Heaven transcend time.
 

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Yes.

The MAN Christ Jesus was in heaven as he was on earth.

The entire O.T. speaks of the man Christ Jesus actively around in heaven,

He was even born before Cain/Abel were born per Col 1.

God/Heaven transcend time.
Jesus ALWAYS existed. He is God.
 

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Why are you trying to explain Biblical miracles by human wisdom? That NEVER works.
It better work.

It says the mystery of the Godhead is revealed per 1 Tim 3:16.

If we don't get it, we don't read the Bible properly.
 

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Jesus ALWAYS existed. He is God.
He was made God after his God resurrected him from the dead.

God resurrected him, made him an omnipresent quickening spirit then fully indwelled him with all that He(God) consists of.

Jesus was then made God by default, though he is allowed to still have a God.
 

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He was made God after his God resurrected him from the dead.

God resurrected him, made him an omnipresent quickening spirit then fully indwelled him with all that He(God) consists of.

Jesus was then made God by default, though he is allowed to still have a God.
Nobody can be made God.
 

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You don't believe in Biblical miracles? The Bible has many miracles.
The mystery was revealed.

Learn how easy it is....

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.