Why Christian nationalism is pure poison for the U.S.

[HIM]

It’s not though. Fundamentalists have perverted certain verses from the Bible.

Which?

Romans 1 is extremely clear. So it is not that one.

Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Maybe one of these?

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

1Cor 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

 

[Romanov2488]

Right. To some one - not to the collective. More significantly, Jesus made a personal appeal that one chooses this action. Jesus never taught the collective State ought to coerce people, take by force the property of one and give it to another one the State deems worthy. See the difference?

To someone because they are part of the collective, we’re all part of it. Jesus had a collectivist world view, he saw the bigger picture which is why he talked about giving. And as a result he was a threat to whom? A nationalistic empire. It was nationalists such as yourself who crucified Jesus. But what do nationalistic and conservatives do? They conflate human decency with communism.

I remember when Trump was the one who called for greater stimulus checks as opposed to only $600. Not a single accusation of socialism from his base. However if Bernie proposed such an idea….

 

[Romanov2488]

Which?

Romans 1 is extremely clear. So it is not that one.

Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Maybe one of these?

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

1Cor 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Leviticus 18:22 talking about how homosexuality is an abomination and that gays should be put to death.

The Bible is full of contradictions, parables, and shouldn’t be taken literally. Only a horse with blinders does such a thing.

 

[Wrangler]

To someone because they are part of the collective, we’re all part of it.

You are in denial about what collectivism is.

 

[bbyrd009]

A nationalistic empire. It was nationalists such as yourself who crucified Jesus

hmm, im thinking wrangler is prolly the least likely of the three of us for that one lol
you crucified Christ all by yourself, trust me

of course "baptizing in the Jordan" is tantamount to sedition in a theocracy, eh

I remember when Trump was the one who called for greater stimulus checks as opposed to only $600. Not a single accusation of socialism from his base. However if Bernie proposed such an idea….

who payin dem $600 anyway? Our great-grandkids, thats who
it was pure robbery

 

[Romanov2488]

You are in denial about what collectivism is.

Conservatives are generally more selfish which is why they promote selfish policies. Most Republicans are so attached to the primacy of their tribal identities and of their ideological beliefs (notably beliefs like “trickle-down economics”) that to them, the effects on the less fortunate are simply collateral damage. Collectivism is more of a response to the selfishness of people.

Do you like your cops and fire fighters? You’re supporting socialism. Do you support government building new roads? You’re supporting socialism. Do you support social security and Medicare? You’re supporting socialism.

Conservatives also don’t support freedom as much as they claim. They don’t care about the individual rights of women and their bodies, the right to marry the same sex, etc.

The Glaring Contradiction of Republicans’ Rhetoric of Freedom

Democratic governors are showing the national party how to challenge the red states’ rollback of rights.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Wrangler]

To someone because they are part of the collective, we’re all part of it.

You are in denial about what collectivism is.

Conservatives are generally more selfish which is why they promote selfish policies.

Again, you don’t know what selfish is. IF deciding what to do with your own property is selfish, what do you call it to demand the power to decide what to do with someone else’s property?

 

[Romanov2488]

You are in denial about what collectivism is.

Again, you don’t know what selfish is. IF deciding what to do with your own property is selfish, what do you call it to demand the power to decide what to do with someone else’s property?

Demanding power to decide what to do with someone else’s property is a safety net for when people abuse the fact that they have their own property.

What do you call it to demand power to decide what a woman should do with her own body?

Conservatives wouldn’t be losing so badly politically and culturally if they weren’t so selfish.

 

[Romanov2488]

Hey Wrangler, what is this atheist doing wrong? Please enlighten me via the Holy Spirit speaking through you. No but seriously I think I have an idea of what he’s doing wrong. He has never been to prison, never been a heroin addict or taken any hallucinogens, so there’s that.

 

[amigo de christo]

Homosexuality is.

 

[amigo de christo]

Right. To some one - not to the collective. More significantly, Jesus made a personal appeal that one chooses this action. Jesus never taught the collective State ought to coerce people, take by force the property of one and give it to another one the State deems worthy. See the difference?

 

[Romanov2488]

Wrangler is saying how socialism is coercion but doesn’t see how Christianity coerces kids from a young age via the threat of going to hell. That man is a hypocrite.

And I think Jesus would see those “anti-Christians” as innocent while seeing the fundamentalist bigots like that narrator in the video as straight up sinners for judging those who don’t agree with his extremism.

Let me ask you. Why do you enjoy using the Bible as justification for your hate? Is it because it gives you a false sense of righteousness?

 

[Romanov2488]

 

[Wrangler]

Demanding power to decide what to do with someone else’s property is …

Is called theft.

 

[Enoch111]

Do you like your cops and fire fighters? You’re supporting socialism. Do you support government building new roads? You’re supporting socialism. Do you support social security and Medicare? You’re supporting socialism.

This is plain nonsense. BALONEY. None of this is "socialism". It is simply responsible governance. Governments collect taxes in order to provide services that individuals cannot provide for themselves.

BUT SOCIALISM IS THE THEFT OF TAXES for the Communist elites and their buddies.

 

[BeyondET]

Conservatives are generally more selfish which is why they promote selfish policies. Most Republicans are so attached to the primacy of their tribal identities and of their ideological beliefs (notably beliefs like “trickle-down economics”) that to them, the effects on the less fortunate are simply collateral damage. Collectivism is more of a response to the selfishness of people.

Do you like your cops and fire fighters? You’re supporting socialism. Do you support government building new roads? You’re supporting socialism. Do you support social security and Medicare? You’re supporting socialism.

Conservatives also don’t support freedom as much as they claim. They don’t care about the individual rights of women and their bodies, the right to marry the same sex, etc.

The Glaring Contradiction of Republicans’ Rhetoric of Freedom

Democratic governors are showing the national party how to challenge the red states’ rollback of rights.

www.theatlantic.com

So what do you support, how should governments run? or should the world be a free for all?

Is egalitarian your style though it would be perfect in a perfect world.

 

[HIM]

Leviticus 18:22 talking about how homosexuality is an abomination and that gays should be put to death.

The Bible is full of contradictions, parables, and shouldn’t be taken literally. Only a horse with blinders does such a thing.

Sexual immorality causes harm and death therefore God warned us not to do it.

 

[Wrangler]

This is plain nonsense. BALONEY. None of this is "socialism". It is simply responsible governance. Governments collect taxes in order to provide services that individuals cannot provide for themselves.

BUT SOCIALISM IS THE THEFT OF TAXES for the Communist elites and their buddies.

And the redistribution of wealth. Public project is not taking money from some and giving it to others.

The heart of socialism is buying the support of the below average at the expense of the above average. And as Margaret Thatcher observed, the problem with socialism is that sooner or later, you run out of OPM, other people's money.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

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What you just saw above is a Republican congresswoman literally crying about why her intolerance of gay couples is not tolerated. So much for the party of “facts over feelings” right? The U.S. doesn’t just allow freedom of religion, but also freedom -from- religion. Christianity is only able to thrive due to the state, the problem is that it is attempting to break down the separation of church and state to the point that political leaders vouch for it. The majority of people support abortion and want to move forward, yet this cancerous movement is trying to take the U.S. back 1000 years with its antiquated thinking. The good news is that Christianity is declining at a rapid pace according to multiple studies such as this one:

In U.S., Decline of Christianity Continues at Rapid Pace

The religious landscape of the United States continues to change at a rapid clip, with both Protestantism and Catholicism experiencing losses of population share.

www.pewresearch.org

I for one also oppose Islam, however due to Islam being projected to overtake Christianity, I see as a positive. Why? Because it at least has a chance at knocking Christianity off its high horse to the point that people can hopefully see the ridiculousness of the Abrahamic religions overall. Far too long the Christian ego has been reinforced by the fact that it’s still standing for over 2000 years. But just because a nut is tougher to crack than usual, doesn’t mean it won’t eventually crack. Christian nationalism breeds bigotry, hate towards LGBT, and divisiveness all based upon an imaginary sky daddy.

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Christians are not glued to our nation. We were proud of her for hundreds of years. In God We Trusted! But we all are citizens of an eternal Heavenly Kingdon - that is our real home.
We do want to live life, prosper and pursue happiness while here. We value our freedoms and want government to stay out of the way of all that. But Government is now so corrupt, any hope for the future has dwindled. We are actually hoping for Jesus to return to put an end to all this evil world that has gone its own way. Nobody will fix this world or nation except Jesus.
This year may bring some catostrophic events that will likey bring you to your knees. Get ready.
Russia now has hyper-sonic missiles (7k mph) AND doomsday nukes capable of producing 1600 ft tsunamis _ loaded on submarines _ in the Atlantic _ as we speak! He is now engaged to take the Ukrainian War to the next level that will include war against NATO.
Iran likely has nukes by now. Allied with many other Muslim nations AND Russia, are also about to wage war against Israel.
You are worried about " Nationalism" ... "gay rights"?. The world is on the verge of a series of cataclysmic events. The Four Horses of Revelation are out of the barn.
The New World Order already had its tentacles around us and puttimg the squeeze on the world during the pandemic. That was just a preview, an exercise. Rights? The freaking lights are about to go out, that's right, when this war happens, likely the tsunamis and power grid black out will certainly end what was a great nation. Then all hell will break loose. I don't think you'll be gay parading after that.

 

[amigo de christo]

Wrangler is saying how socialism is coercion but doesn’t see how Christianity coerces kids from a young age via the threat of going to hell. That man is a hypocrite.

And I think Jesus would see those “anti-Christians” as innocent while seeing the fundamentalist bigots like that narrator in the video as straight up sinners for judging those who don’t agree with his extremism.

Let me ask you. Why do you enjoy using the Bible as justification for your hate? Is it because it gives you a false sense of righteousness?

Mark these next words well . For i say them not just to you but to all that has breath .
THOSE WHO LOVE THEIR SIN are not born again and will never be able to comprehend the TRUTH .
They will only comprehend what agrees with their sin . NOW MARK THOSE WORDS WELL .
Take NOTE .
Cause i see this all over the false liberal christain as well as the false evangelical christain . BOTH SIDES
get duped by their own lustful hearts desire . MARK THOSE WORDS WELL
for i see that you are in bondage of sin and cannot see . BUT its not JUST YOU i say those words too .
TIME TO OPEN BIBLES and simply learn TRUTH for ourselves . HURRY . Dont try to pluck the speck
out of the others eye when a LOG is in your own , and i say that to the other side as well , DONT try and pull
the speck out of ROMNAOV eyes when A LOG IS theirs as well . BOTH SIDES GETTING DUPED
BOTH SIDES serve satan . NOW you know what i am and its folks like me that will be HATED to death
by both sides . WHY . cause i expose the sins of both sides . BIBLE TIME . I love all , SO I POINT TO THE TRUTH.
HURRY before its too late forever . HURRY and i will be praying for you and for them too . AS i desire
no one to suffer to the second death . Rather they come to the TRUE JESUS and have eternal life .