Why do people desire for the end times to be for today? Serious Inquirey

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MatthewG

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Jesus did die for all of mankind as the Messiah or Lamb of God unblemished. That means that he has forgiveness and salvation ready for us if he desires to save us. But as I quoted in the scriptures of John 5:28-29 he will not be forgiving or saving all.

So when you read the scriptures that say Jesus died for all, you probably shouldn't be seeing that he will save all.
You realize you still have yet to answer the question devin.

Are all save TO the Kingdom?

The answer is no. I agree with the two ressurections and also people being outside the kingdom in heaven brother.

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"What if you are leading people to Hell with Universalism? Do you really think you won't go with them?"
I dont belive what your talking about… assumptions are a killer.

I just encouraged for others to study and sto study with conjuction of the holy spirit


People need encouragement

Not dogma
 

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You realize you still have yet to answer the question devin.

Are all save TO the Kingdom?

The answer is no. I agree with the two ressurections and also people being outside the kingdom in heaven brother.

Love you
What is the kingdom you speak of MatthewG? The scripture of John 5:28-29 is clear, life is only given to some, others are condemned. It says nothing about any kingdom.
 

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Study helps. Not dogma.

Also trusting God and seeking Him.

Not trusting man. Man let you down.
 

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What is the kingdom you speak of MatthewG? The scripture of John 5:28-29 is clear, life is only given to some, others are condemned. It says nothing about any kingdom.
The kingdom which is never going to end which Jesus rules over, and is the heavenly Kingdom somewhere to be seen after thus life.

My encouragement is for all to study.

I could be wrong,

But i wont tell you not to study amd just give up or to believe just anyone who stands behind a pulpit… who could easily manipulate anyone that listens.

That ill promise.

Trust God and seek him and he will reward
 

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The kingdom which is never going to end which Jesus rules over, and is the heavenly Kingdom somewhere to be seen after thus life.

My encouragement is for all to study.

I could be wrong,

But i wont tell you not to study amd just give up or to believe just anyone who stands behind a pulpit… who could easily manipulate anyone that listens.

That ill promise.

Trust God and seek him and he will reward
Well I know the book of revelation speaks of the hereafter somewhat. But the book of revelation is difficult for people to discern and I tend to see what I see in it as do others. It is highly subjective. I'm really not sure where you're getting your information either though.
 

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Study helps. Not dogma.
Study what?
Also trusting God and seeking Him.
But you're not preaching God of the Bible. You don't seem to even know which God you are preaching.
Not trusting man. Man let you down.
You mean the Bible, right?

Matthew 13
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,
50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
 

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Well I know the book of revelation speaks of the hereafter somewhat. But the book of revelation is difficult for people to discern and I tend to see what I see in it as do others. It is highly subjective. I'm really not sure where you're getting your information either though.
Love your honesty friend.

God keep your head held up.

Gonna go ahead and end this conversation.

Thank you,
Matthew
 

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Im good, @Jack. You may not eve really be 75 years old could be a front i hardly trust you my guy. Gonna end the conversation.

Love you,
Matthew
 

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Love your honesty friend.

God keep your head held up.

Gonna go ahead and end this conversation.

Thank you,
Matthew
OK, well if you take out all the other speakers in the bible and just take Jesus' own words, he clearly can be seen speaking a different gospel than universalism. He talks about throwing selfish people in the lake of fire, and he says "he" will do that. He is judge of heaven and hell.
 

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Im good, @Jack. You may not eve really be 75 years old could be a front i hardly trust you my guy. Gonna end the conversation.

Love you,
Matthew
I don't blame you for evading my comments. You have no valid Biblical answers. Universalism is Satanic.
 
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OK, well if you take out all the other speakers in the bible and just take Jesus' own words, he clearly can be seen speaking a different gospel than universalism. He talks about throwing selfish people in the lake of fire, and he says "he" will do that. He is judge of heaven and hell.
devin i wanna make this crystal clear,

I

Do

Not

Believe

In

Univeralism


At

All


Please never assume so again.

Love you brother, and have a good night,
Matthew
 

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Why cant people just ask question is straight yo direct…

Rather than assuming


Like Hey Jack you believe people go to hell today?

Or hey Decin do you believe people go straight to hell today?

Hey matthew do you believe in universalism?


Its so much easier…
 

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devin i wanna make this crystal clear,

I

Do

Not

Believe

In

Univeralism


At

All


Please never assume so again.

Love you brother, and have a good night,
Matthew
OK good, it kinda sounded like it. Great have a good night.
 

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Why cant people just ask question is straight yo direct…

Rather than assuming


Like Hey Jack you believe people go to hell today?

Or hey Decin do you believe people go straight to hell today?

Hey matthew do you believe in universalism?


Its so much easier…
If you research near death experiences or read the parable of the rich man and Lazarus then yes the bible and NDE's make it sound that some people go to spirit prison. So yes I believe that MatthewG. Cheers and have a good night.
 
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Why cant people just ask question is straight yo direct…

Rather than assuming


Like Hey Jack you believe people go to hell today?

Or hey Decin do you believe people go straight to hell today?

Hey matthew do you believe in universalism?


Its so much easier…
Why should I answer your questions? You don't answer mine. If you believe everyone will be saved that's as bad as Universalism!
 

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Many people just really dont know what I believe so all they can do is assume @Jack.

If i had some direct wuestions like

What makes you believe the way you do?
Or why do you believe that?

They wil realize that i have my beliefs founded in the Bible, but when they are presneted those things thet become defensive and the. Thet say i dont believe that way so neither can you, your wrong.

Then they will too consult the bible and pull scripture,

And by the end of the day your flesh is tired and you have cuts and blood all over the floor.

Its really that simple.

Later brother and take care, love to you
Matthew
 

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Many people just really dont know what I believe so all they can do is assume @Jack.

If i had some direct wuestions like

What makes you believe the way you do?
Or why do you believe that?

They wil realize that i have my beliefs founded in the Bible, but when they are presneted those things thet become defensive and the. Thet say i dont believe that way so neither can you, your wrong.

Then they will too consult the bible and pull scripture,

And by the end of the day your flesh is tired and you have cuts and blood all over the floor.

Its really that simple.

Later brother and take care, love to you
Matthew
You don't believe everyone will be saved?