Because you said we are not saved by being baptized. But then said we must be baptized,How did I contradict myself?
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Because you said we are not saved by being baptized. But then said we must be baptized,How did I contradict myself?
You were not discussing origional sinI haven't called her a Calvinist. There are others who believe in the false doctrine of Original Sin.
In adam ALL dieNo. We were obviously dead in trespasses and sin before being born again. But we were not dead in Adam's sin; rather we were dead in our own trespasses and sin (Col 2:13). The spirit God formed in each of us (Zech 12:1) was not dead.
In adam all dieSo you don't believe Paul. OK.
Ah, thanks.
I was born dead. In adam.
That's not in the word of God EG. Those are your words. You misunderstand his words, and because you do, you assign your own alternative meaning to what he said
I disagree with you there...he speaks Gods truth...imo...we all make mistakes at times, that’s how we learn...if we have our ears open and are listening.. You neither understand him, nor can you explain yourself.
To be honest, I don’t think he meant dead...he meant spiritually dead..slip of the tongue maybe?Do you listen to yourself? "I was born dead." "in adam" -- it sounds like a line from a B rated movie. People say all kinds of stupid things like that, believing it's some special kind of Christian code-speak. It's not. It's play-acting.
I disagree with you there...he speaks Gods truth...imo...we all make mistakes at times, that’s how we learn...if we have our ears open and are listening.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion, which you have just voiced as have I.
To be honest, I don’t think he meant dead...he meant spiritually dead..slip of the tongue maybe?
I’ve done it myself...birthed in the Spirit...it’s not biblical.
To me it means Spirit gives birth to spirit...that’s biblical.
The leaning is towards a PREDESTINATION belief and a lack of spiritual understanding.So God just picked you out of all the people on this earth and regenerated you for no apparent reason? I don't think so. In order to believe that you must be the most narcissist person in the whole world.
He should have picked Hitler too. That would have saved millions from untold misery and terrible deaths.
We are not saved by being baptized. We are saved by grace through faith (Eph 2:8). But we are told that happens when we are baptized.Because you said we are not saved by being baptized. But then said we must be baptized,
So is the belief that Jesus is the Son of God. You believe that. Are you a Calvinist?You were not discussing origional sin
you were discussing being regenerated before you came to faith. This is calvinism.
She holds to some of his teachings. @JBO is right in calling it out. To claim GOD CHOOSES and we have no choice nor need of the word to stir our faith in belief, is error and if you are blind to that which has been said in multiple threads.....oh well.Don’t let him pull your strings, He is trying to call you a calvinist..
That is speaking of physical death. We all die, but not because Adam sinned. Even Adam didn't die because he sinned, at least not directly.In adam ALL die
You are part of all..
That is 1 Corinthians 15:22. And that is speaking of physical death and then the resurrection at the end of the age when Christ returns.In adam all die
even so in christ all shall be made alive
That's nuts and it presents God as some ogre since He knows and did from before the world began that only a few would believe.we were dead when we were born. In adam. we eventually commited our own sin, and deserved death.
God did that so he could put us all in christ. (those who believe)
I asked you in another post...what needs to come Alive in us?That is 1 Corinthians 15:22. And that is speaking of physical death and then the resurrection at the end of the age when Christ returns.
That's nuts and it presents God as some ogre since He knows and did from before the world began that only a few would believe.
That is not where our spirits come from. Our spirits come from God. He doesn't give us dead spirits.There is no such thing as a “sin GENE”.
Seed is the Key.
1 Cor 15:
[38] But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
Gen 1 …
Doesn’t matter, tree-KIND, herb-KIND, animal-KIND, man-KIND….each has it’s own SEED within it to Reproduce it’s SAME KIND of thing.
When the tree’s, herb’s, animal’s, man’s, SEED is become CORRUPT, the KIND of thing it Reproduces IS Corrupt.
Trees, Herbs, Animals CAN NOT SIN….
However manKIND, is naturally born IN SIN, can and does Continue to SIN, Can hear, learn, about HOW TO be forgiven their SIN…
Can consider, ponder, wonder, believe or reject they have sin, or IF they want to accept Gods Offering to be forgiven their sin, or Not.
SEEDS are the key, and WHY you discuss SEEDS and not a man made deflective term of “sin gene”.
Who said he gave us a dead spirit?That is not where our spirits come from. Our spirits come from God. He doesn't give us dead spirits.
No one chooses to become Born Again...and I will call those out who claim such a thing.
God chooses who become Born Again by his seed.
We have no say in the matter.
Show me where you chose to become Born Again....?1
Please don’t tell me I hold to Calvin teaching...I hold to God teachings...now you prove me wrong..you don’t have to quote me, just use the reply in the box.
Tell me how you chose to be Born Again of imperishable seed?
How did you choose and accept that?