No harm in being ignorant. We all are ignorant to more things than we are knowledgeable about. As far as questions go, whether or not the answers to them are accepted SHOULD based in fact, evidence, reality, and that which is verifiable. Just because an answer is presented don't make it one worthy of acceptance or at times even of respect. Answers can be and often are just wrong.
Why Do You Believe....
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DuckieLady
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I had an experience.
Let's be honest, you guys tend to not look for anything credible and spend your whole time lacking faith because you already have it in your mind to discredit the possibility of judgment after death because most people do not want to be held accountable for their actions or be ruled over something more than themselves.
What are you actually looking for?
Are you searching because you want to justify yourself or because you want to believe?
You guys never find him for the same reason you cannot plant a rosebush in the middle of a gravel road. The heart needs to be open and honest to receive.
Would God himself justify a dishonest heart?
You have to have at least little soil for a seed to be planted.
That subjectivity still holds some meaning due to the remnants of absolute truth. But when truth becomes reduced to opinion so meaning (whatever is left) will be meaningless.
GaryAnderson
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Ok we know for sure that Jesus existed. That’s all I need to make the leap and go from there.
If you’re happy and at peace with “I don’t know” than good for you. You shouldn’t impose your way of life on anybody just like I’m not coming at your door and asking you to believe in anything.
I believe in the Lord because He has chosen to reveal Himself to me.
What is your interest? This gets detailed, are you wondering if the Bible is true?
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There is if there's a freight train coming up on you of which you are unaware.
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I'm not "you guys", I'm an individual, so let's start there. My mind is malleable and my heart is open to compelling evidence. As far as accountability goes, I pay my taxes, I take care of my family, I treat others with respect, basically, I behave like my actions affect and matter to more than just myself, so yeah in that regard, I'm accountable to something more than myself.
Truth demonstrated by verifiable evidence.
I really don't have a want in all of this other than to know and follow truth in actuality.
There you go with that "you guys" language in an attempt to create an "us" and "them", insiders vs. outsiders. That's a sure way to poison the well and make it all but impossible to progress together fairly and honestly with marginalizing the one in the "them" category.
I believe we can choose to do better and I vow to treat you as the individual you are as well as with dignity and respect.
Just to clarify, we're talking absolute meaning, not absolute truths as many truths are demonstrable, testable, and able to be verified, thus qualifying them to be considered as absolute truths. As far as meaning is concerned for the sake of this discussion, it lives more in the subjective realm as it is dictated by many subjective pillars like culture, personal sensitivities, upbringing, education, preferences, etc. This subjective meaning is not so much meaningless, but more so situationally ascribed by by an individual, a group, or even a society.
It's not about being happy not knowing. Instead it's about NOT forming a conclusion that fills in the knowledge gap without have verifiable, testable, reality-based evidence.
What is this way of life that you are referring to?
There are actually two parts to this question.
1. How is it you came to faith?
2. Why do you continue in this faith you came to?
@Truth OT , which of these two are you specifically asking?
DuckieLady
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No, I don't play label semantics games, if you interpeted it as anything other than person who exists a category of athiest humans then I can't help you, but ignore that anyway because I think I may was talking to someone else and I don't know who right now.
It's good to live an honest life but the point is your good deeds cannot pay for the penalty for your sins, which we all have.
You want a number one reason to follow Christ, it's this:
Every other religion expects you to inherit salvation through your OWN deeds and your OWN righteousness and then tell you that you must die and take others with you for their god.
Christianity admits we are incapable, we will fail, we make mistakes, and we will continue to mess up until we die, but we are given grace, because our God died for us.
Mr. Truman, I can respect your answer if I were asking 'why you believe in the Lord you believe in', but that's not what I asked. I asked why you believe the Biblical accounts to be true.
I would argue that 'meaning' is wholly dependent on absolute truth. Otherwise 'meaning' degenerates into opinion and relative gibberish.
I'm not sure I follow. Are you asking how presumed knowledge can be tested?
As far as our ability to know things, my answer is YES, we can and do know many things. But, where there are gaps in our understanding, we should be hesitant to fill in those knowledge gaps is things that haven't been substantiated.
I'm not sure if I'm asking either. What I can tell you I am asking is WHY do you believe the scriptural accounts written by men to be credible as words from deity?
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