Why don’t you believe Satan has been defeated?

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MatthewG

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Seventeen verse in Revelation 13

"17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is 666."
 

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γη - land, earth.
Now, from one end of the land, earth to the other end of the land, earth.

land, the earth around your house is land.

Now I don’t know the rest of that scripture that was shared but it might help identify everything being said contextually instead of taking it out of context. I don’t remember what is was and I’m getting tired… this house is hot someone broke the Ac during the weekend and it’s hard to sleep.
 

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Nero. The ones who name was 666 which was the number of a man.
The statue of Daniel 2 represented 4 empires... Babylon, Meda-Persia, Greece, and Rome. After Rome was broken up, it became a union of clay, representing the church, and iron, representing the old imperial Roman hierarchy. Pagan Rome became papal Rome and was divided between 10 kings. According to Daniel 73 of those kings were destroyed, the remaining 7 as we know from history formed the modern nations of Europe over which papal Rome ruled in the guise of the little horn. That little horn is still alive and very well. Yet you claim the prophecy ended half way through the Roman rule, and 2000 years of human history disappeared? Was God asleep? Didn't He know? Perhaps He forgot to mention it? No, what had taken place is that you have fallen victim my friend to a gross deception designed specifically to hide the last 2000 years of apostasy from the prophetic timeline, and thus divert the truth of the real Antichrist from the observation of the church. The Jesuits themselves invented preterism to dissuade people from recognizing the Papacy as the Antichrist. They did this during the counter reformation, at the same time as inventing futurism which also casts aside 2000 years of church and secular history, which the prophecies of Daniel 2,7,8, and 11, as well as several prophecies of Paul and much of Revelation teaches.
 

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land, the earth around your house is land.

Yes…but my house does not occupy land, earth from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth.
If I said to you that a terrible wind blew everyone’s trash and trash cans from one end of the neighborhood to the other end of the neighborhood, would you surmise from that that what I meant was the blown around trash was only localized to my yard…??
 
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The statue of Daniel 2 represented 4 empires... Babylon, Meda-Persia, Greece, and Rome. After Rome was broken up, it became a union of clay, representing the church, and iron, representing the old imperial Roman hierarchy. Pagan Rome became papal Rome and was divided between 10 kings. According to Daniel 73 of those kings were destroyed, the remaining 7 as we know from history formed the modern nations of Europe over which papal Rome ruled in the guise of the little horn. That little horn is still alive and very well. Yet you claim the prophecy ended half way through the Roman rule, and 2000 years of human history disappeared? Was God asleep? Didn't He know? Perhaps He forgot to mention it? No, what had taken place is that you have fallen victim my friend to a gross deception designed specifically to hide the last 2000 years of apostasy from the prophetic timeline, and thus divert the truth of the real Antichrist from the observation of the church. The Jesuits themselves invented preterism to dissuade people from recognizing the Papacy as the Antichrist. They did this during the counter reformation, at the same time as inventing futurism which also casts aside 2000 years of church and secular history, which the prophecies of Daniel 2,7,8, and 11, as well as several prophecies of Paul and much of Revelation teaches.

I don’t believe I have been deceived at all: some believe it was Rome when it fell sometime in 426: but most of the revelation is dealing the nation of Israel and not Rome, though it does have mention of who would be used by God to destroy the Nation. God used the Roman Empire, to destroy them… Nero was the antichrist, and that is just how my belief is.
 

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Sorry to hear about your AC. I’ve definitely been there! It’s yucky.
 

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Seventeen verse in Revelation 13

"17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is 666."
Very weak. Scripture interprets scripture. Every beast in Daniel represented an empire. Revelation12 has two beasts, the first of which is a composite of the 4 in Daniel. And you think all of a sudden a composite of 4 empires is to be found in one man? A man that ruled for just 14 years? Please give us a verse by verse explanation of how Nero meet all the criteria of the following...
KJV Revelation 13:1-8
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
 

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God used the Roman Empire to destroy Jerusalem. You can read about historically from Cassio Dio, Tacitus, Josephus, and Suetonius.
 

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I really don't think you have thought this through Matthew, but simply grabbed a couple of things that look right and clung to them tenaciously while ignoring everything to the contrary.
 

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Believe what you will brakelite I don’t need insults from another individual. Thank you for participating though. I am still learning I got all the information I need to consider all the book of revelation from the book in the first post I’m just a lazy person.

Thank God for his grace though.
 

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The better word for nations is tribes,

Just a fyi.
 
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