Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit?
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Most translations say might, a few say to receive, the Greek interlinear says might receive.
So, they prayed for them that JUST MAYBE they might POSSIBLY receive the Holy Spirit?
Is that what you are claiming?
Acts 8:15-17 NIV
When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit,
16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.
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If you read 1 Cor, it's obvious that they were DESIROUS of spiritual gifts inferring that not all received a gift of some sort when the letter was penned by Paul. Don't forget, it's gifts or manifestations of the Spirit being discussed here and not the Spirit itself which all baptized believers receive. Note also the following wording (which I've capitalized) in the passages below.
1 Cor 12:28
28And God hath set SOME in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues
1 Cor 14:1
1Follow after charity, and DESIRE spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
1 Cor 14:12
12Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are ZEALOUS of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
2 Tim 1:6
6Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou STIR UP THE GIFT of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands.
Not all received a gift?
Say what?
What do you make of these?
1 Corinthians 12:7 NIV
Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good.
1 Corinthians 12:12 NIV
Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ.
1 Corinthians 12:27 NIV
Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.
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1 cor12:7
Does that mean every, single, person, or everyone to which a gift has been given according to God's will and purpose as 1 Cor 12:28 and the other scriptures I cited infer? And the other 2 scriptures you cited are irrelevant to the discussion. Yes, all those baptized into the body of Christ are obviously part of the body, but as aforementioned, that doesn't mean that all have been granted a gift, the miraculous manifestation of the Spirit as the aforementioned scriptures suggest. God set SOME in the church, not ALL.
Perhaps haven;t received?
Let's not blame the gift-giver.
Your attempts at limiting can't be right.
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Not my attempts, it's what the words say and suggest, which words are not mine. At this point in this dialog, believe what you like.
Lambano
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Subjunctive mood form of λάβάνω (lambano). The mood of possibility and potentiality.
What had not happened before is now possible. The "might" in English is often used to convey this mood, and not necessarily the sense of "some will, some won't" or "it may happen, but it may not".
Interestingly, the ἀπόληται in John 3:16, which the KJV translates as "should not perish" and NASB and NIV translate as "shall not perish", is also in the subjunctive mood and could be translated as "whoever believes in Him might not perish". But nobody translates it that way.
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Wow, are you on staff now?
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. - LOL
Wait... was that a promotion, or a demotion?
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Lambano
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Turned it down. I'm probably more valuable as a gadfly anyway.
Lambano
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rebuilder 454
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This is pure baloney.
Thank you Jesus that anyone that asks for salvation will get Jesus. No possibility of a demon coming in. None at all.
The same is true for the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
We are GUARANTEED by Jesus that no counterfeit will enter of come in to the one seeking.
You are so paranoid and obsessed with other ministries it has lead you into error and unbelief.
We have a guarantee.
Absolute guarantee.
Forever canonized eternally in His Holy Word.
Stop lying and manufacturing messed up error.
amigo de christo
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The problem is most are not SEEKING JESUS CHRIST , they are seeking what best molds to and suits the unholy god
that can be seen . Who is this god who can be seen you might ask .
The god in the mirror . MOST AINT SEEKING JESUS CHRIST , they seeking the jesus that feeds their flesh . THAT AINT JESUS DUDE .
amigo de christo
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canonized eternally in HIS , HIS Holy Word . rather odd that most who claim this sure seem to be twisting
omitting HIS HOLY WORDS IN THAT CANON and heed rather the men who TWISTED THEM .
OOOPS .
OH YES many be decieved and do follow another jesus . And that jesus dont get captilized on my watch .
ITS THE DEVIL using the name OF JESUS to decieve a heck ton of folks . sorry about the english
as i am sure there is no such word as HECKTON . but in amigos version of english its MEANS A WHOLE LOT .
amigo de christo
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amigo de christo
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just be on gaurd . for many who play in the cat box produced of men , and eat of those lil chocloate danties
that their non grave all inclusive men feed them ,
TRY and remember cats visit the sand box and it aint chocolate one be eating either .
On that friendly note , allow ol amigo some parting words ............
GET IN THEM BIBLES FOLKS cause men be deceiving folks big time .
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