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By the time the two witnesses are killed most every left alive on the earth will be in the state of Israel. Those last ones to arrive will be the eastern kings. The majority of earth's humanity will have been judged alive or dealt with by Jesus before those 42 months handed to Satan will even begin. Once one stands in judgment they will be removed from the earth. There is no point in Jesus placing souls in sheol after the 6th Seal. They will be placed into the LOF. No need to be judged twice.If electronics are rendered useless, then how is the world going to know that the witnesses have been killed to celebrate over their deaths for 3 1/2 days ?
I have always said that a Messianic Jewish remnant will join with their brethren, the Christian peoples.Keras, I thought you claimed the Jews would not be in Israel, but Christians from all around the world. So how is Zechariah 13:8-9 supposed to be fulfilled if there will not be any Jews around ?
Wrong again. You need to read the OT and the promises made to Abraham and confirmed to Isaac and Jacob and their seed into perpetuity.God did NOT make everlasting promises to the "ethnic people" of Israel. He made it with "His People", congregation Israel -- including all people in Christ from the Old Testament and the New Testament.
I have you just reject the word as written.If you can refute my position biblically and honestly. So far you have not
YOu have so much to learn.Jewish culture? No prophecy according to the WORD of GOD. Not according to Jewish culture, Roman culture, or American culture. Selah!
Israel is the first born. that is who Moses was speaking about to Pharoah. He was not speaking metaphorically but literally!You need to read again carefully and surrender to God's Word for who Jesus Christ is - the Israel of God. As it is written:
Exo 4:22
(22) And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
The nation Israel was the 'type' that represented Christ, the firstborn Son of God, wherein the true children of Israel would be delivered from bondage. The nation was called God's firstborn only because it was a shadow (1st Corinthians. 10:4-7), a visible representation of this true Israel of God, Christ. It represented the body of Christ, the firstborn of God in Him. Indeed, the nation was also called the firstfruits because Christ is the Firstfruit. The nation was called the Chosen because Christ is the Chosen. The nation was called sons because Christ is the Son. In other words, it is only in Him that these titles come to fruition. Inheritance isn't by fleshly birthright, but the birthright that comes from being born again in Jesus. He is the firstborn from the dead.
And that is a type of prophetic fulfilment known in the day as literal plus typical. Israel was the child and called out of Egypt in teh Exodus, and that literal event was to become a type of Jesus going to Egypt.Hos 11:1
(1) When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.
Again, compare that verse with Scriptures which clearly speak of the Child Jesus Christ going into Egypt. We begin to see God's 'Clear' declaration that this was the fulfillment (completion) of that Scripture regarding Israel and Egypt. Speaking of Christ, we read:
Well I take Jesus at His Word when He said in future tense "I will build my church". But you say He has been building HIs church since Abel.You are being ridiculous. You have not considered everything in Scripture carefully.
The "church" is a spiritual congregation of Israel from Abel to the Last Elect. First with the Old Testament with Israel as a representation. Then the New Testament with the Church as representation. I have explained on another thread that the Old Testament congregation lost their kingdom representation when she fell at the Cross, and Christ rebuilt it in three days as it written! This is the church that Christ told Peter that He will rebuild upon where He is now a chief cornerstone of that building and where we are working on as the builders of the New Testament congregation! It is just a continuation of the congregation of Israel from the Old to the New that even some Jews in the New Testament can graft back in when they hear the gospel!
Time will prove God right and allow you to repent.Talking with someone who shows a failure to read and understand the Prophesies, is a waste of my time. The Jews will not be there. It is the Christian people who Gog will attack. WE will bury the corpses and clean up the debris of his army.
We Christians will build the new Temple and dedicate it to God. Satan will desecrate it, as Prophesied in 2 Thess 2:4.
Your ignorance is really showing. Israel does not mean overcomer for God, but one who struggles with god.Just the word; Israel, which means an Overcomer for God, is enough to show it properly applies to Christians, not to apostate and Jesus hating peoples.
Like Douggg, you fail to see the many Prophesies that tell us the Jews will soon be Judged and punished and only a remnant will survive.
I have written and said this to you ad-nauseum. what failure is your failure to carefully read my posts. that remanat will consist of 1/3 of Jews who enter the tribulation and they all will be saved according to Gods promise!Like Douggg, you fail to see the many Prophesies that tell us the Jews will soon be Judged and punished and only a remnant will survive.
When you tire of ripping verses out of context or misapplying verses to wrong times, then maybe you will finally see and stop reinterpreting Gods Word with your own ideas.You quote Zechariah 13:8-9, Two thirds will be struck down and the one third who remain must pass thru fire and be refined, with the dross removed, So you have made a false statement in saying that third are saved. Isaiah 6:11-13, Isiah 29:1-4, Romans 9:27, all say that only a few Jews will survive.
Wrong again.
And no one was in christ until Pnetecost.
I have you just reject the word as written.
YOu have so much to learn.
Israel is the first born. that is who Moses was speaking about to Pharoah. He was not speaking metaphorically but literally!
And that is a type of prophetic fulfilment known in the day as literal plus typical. Israel was the child and called out of Egypt in teh Exodus, and that literal event was to become a type of Jesus going to Egypt.
Well I take Jesus at His Word when He said in future tense "I will build my church". But you say He has been building HIs church since Abel.
Care to show explicit literal biblical proof the body of Christ has existed since Abel.
Galatians 3Wrong again. You need to read the OT and the promises made to Abraham and confirmed to Isaac and Jacob and their seed into perpetuity.
Pnetecost. From Mr. Grammar who doesn't realize that grammar includes spelling.And no one was in christ until Pnetecost.
And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
It is plain who it is that needs repentance!Time will prove God right and allow you to repent.
Keras, will the false prophet, who will be cast into the lake of fire, be a Jew or not ?It is plain who it is that needs repentance!
We Christians are the Israelites of God, the idea of the Jewish people having that distinction, is false and is made to support the even worse belief of a rapture to heaven. The Jews will be Judged and punished and we all have to stay on Earth, the Biblical Truth.
It is possible, but unlikely.Keras, will the false prophet, who will be cast into the lake of fire, be a Jew or not ?
Jesus was never the King of Israel and when He Returns, he will be King of Kings, over the whole world.Also, was Jesus the King of Israel who came in the name the Lord ?
Keras, will the false prophet, who will be cast into the lake of fire, be a Jew or not ?
That person in Revelation 13 will call down fire from heaven just like Elijah did.
Also, was Jesus the King of Israel who came in the name the Lord ?
Satan will give him the power to call down fire.
Keras, Jesus is God's intended King of Israel, as indicated in John 12:12-15 below.Jesus was never the King of Israel and when He Returns, he will be King of Kings, over the whole world.
Luke 23Keras, Jesus is God's intended King of Israel, as indicated in John 12:12-15 below.
The Antichrist will be embraced by Israel (the Jews) as their thought-to-be, King of Israel messiah. Who will be anointed by the false as the King of Israel.
A replacement nation called Beulah in your scenario made up of Christians - would never do such a thing. Which shows your scenario wrong. The person who becomes the Antichrist must be a Jew, and the false prophet a Jew. And the nation of Israel who makes the error is the present nation of Israel over there primarily made up of Jews.
John 12:
12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,
13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.
14 And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,
15 Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
Hello hello I don’t mean to interrupt to somebody else’s conversation, but I would like to tell you what I think. I just love talking about God.Where do we read that in Scripture exactly?
Great. I have over 50 years of studying the end time prophecies.If there’s anybody who wants to talk about revelation, I am your man
That’s not applying that I’m right, it’s just applying. I have an opinion
My experiences 45 years at Shepherd Chapel Arkansas. We have been talking about revelation all this time so I think I have a good idea what is going to happen next
Revelation 13:13Where do we read that in Scripture exactly?
You defiantly have a blockage in your understanding of what the Prophets tell us.The Antichrist will be embraced by Israel (the Jews) as their thought-to-be, King of Israel messiah. Who will be anointed by the false as the King of Israel.
A replacement nation called Beulah in your scenario made up of Christians - would never do such a thing. Which shows your scenario wrong. The person who becomes the Antichrist must be a Jew, and the false prophet a Jew. And the nation of Israel who makes the error is the present nation of Israel over there primarily made up of Jews.
What I’m doing is I’m keeping an eye on the oil prices. Every day I look at the barrel prices.Great. I have over 50 years of studying the end time prophecies.
What I think has to happen next is the formation of the ten EU leader panel of some sorts, that the litter horn person will be over. I am keeping a close eye on Zelensky, a Jew, who is a well known political leader with military experience - two quality's that the Jews (Judaism) are looking for in their King of Israel messiah.
Keras, the person to become the Antichrist (instead of, and against, Jesus the rightful King of Israel) must be anointed the King of Israel by the false prophet, and embraced by the nation of Israel.Revelation 13:13
God surely did not give him the power to call down fire.
You defiantly have a blockage in your understanding of what the Prophets tell us.
The Jewish State of Israel will be gone when the Lord sends His fiery wrath. Zephaniah 1:1-18, Isaah 29:1-4
When we Christians go to live in all of the holy Land, we will elect a leader for ourselves. Hosea 1:11, Jeremiah 30:21
Oil is the life blood of the nations, I will agree with that. And its availability will be a factor in decisions made in the end times.What I’m doing is I’m keeping an eye on the oil prices. Every day I look at the barrel prices.
Once gasoline hits a certain level that will shut down everything.
You have two notions that I don't agree with.Our church teaches that the 10 kings are going to be mortal. However, when the antichrist gets here he’s going to replace them pluck three of them out which I think will be probably be the USA just to guess. Satan/antichrist will then replace them with fallen angels that will come down here with him whether or not the fallen angels are here already. I don’t know.
Being the Antichrist is only one of the five stages the person goes through on the way to his destruction.People asked me how come I spent so much time on prophecy in the antichrist, and not on the real Christ Well the answer is if I can give a normal person some Bible prophecy and it comes true. They’re going to come to me again to hear what I have to say and then they will realize just like I do that they’re really is a God so I look at it as a Evangelistic type thing