YES, Lord Jesus Christ DID Claim To Be GOD

[Fred J]

Too bad you don't understand what John 1:1-3 is saying...

John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

The Word (Jesus) was with God from the beginning... In the beginning
was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

No need to scold Davy cause what He said is correct.View attachment 42738

Am not scolding Davy, you 'busybody' and 'accuser', and Davy able to speak for himself.

The scripture does not read as you've 'twisted' it, to sound how you want it.

Firstly the scripture read, 'In the beginning was the Word, .......................................................'

Then only later it read, '.................................. The same was in the beginning with GOD.'

Any where the scripture read, 'In the beginning was GOD, ...............................................' ??

No !

Because, GOD always existed with no beginning at all. apart from the Word and creation, been created and have a beginning. (Gen. 1:1 / John 1:1)

Conclusion, based on all creation, whether in Heaven or on earth, the Word is the 'firstborn' of or over all creation, period

 

[Fred J]

No, you DO NOT KNOW Bible Scripture, especially New Testament Bible Scripture.

If you did know, then you would never DENY the New Testament evidence that Jesus of Nazareth is GOD The Savior come in the flesh...

Matt 1:21-23
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call His name JESUS: for He shall save His people from their sins.

22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
KJV


But since you DENY that New Testament Scripture, and others relevant to it, but still claim to believe in The Father, that means you are following the Jew's religion of Judaism, and NOT Christianity.

i do not know the scripture claims, only come from the 'imposters' and 'counterfeits' among us. Who think they know something about the Holy Bible scripture, but they know nothing at all.

In one of my reply, Davy confessed, Jesus is GOD the FATHER Himself, also including without contest, Jesus is also God the Holy Spirit.

Apparently to Davy's version, Jesus is the Godhead of the Trinity, since He is called 'Emmanuel'.

Ironically, the 'stumbling blocks' in the path of the saints of grace and truth to stumble, but to no avail.

 

[BarneyFife]

If you do not believe Jesus when He claimed to be God having come in the flesh to die on the cross for the remission of the sins of those who believe, then it means 'your' sins have not yet been forgiven. And the reason is simple...

It is because ONLY GOD can forgive our sins and offer us eternal life. And that is what Jesus of Nazareth offered through HIS BLOOD shed on His cross, and NOT by The Father's Blood.

Acts 4:10-12
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Whom ye crucified, Whom God raised from the dead, even by Him doth this man stand here before you whole.

11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, Which is become the head of the corner.

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
KJV

You are, of course, correct, but it's deeper than that.

The reason our sins had to be paid for by Christ is because only a member of the Godhead could rightfully surrender a life unborrowed, unbeholden to, and underived from another entity.

We scarcely venture to imagine the unfathomable humiliation and unutterable condescension of the Son of God in taking upon Himself (forever, by the way) the mantle of even fallen humanity with all of its thousands of years of degradation.

Not that He was ever morally deficient in any way, but to maintain Himself as a spotless Sacrifice He had to struggle constantly to keep Himself free of any defilement by way of even simple unhealthful human habit.

This is a subject and a mystery you won't read about much in modern commentaries, although it is definitely a feature of Scripture and commentators during and before the Great Awakening.

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[Big Boy Johnson]

The scripture does not read as you've 'twisted' it, to sound how you want it.

Those void of revelation from the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ... say stuff like that

 

[GRACE ambassador]

God the Father is the judge,

? What Saith The Scripture?:

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Jesus Alone Is The Great Judge John 5:22. The Judge Is God Psalms 50:6;​

Isaiah 33:22; Hebrews 12:23; Revelation 18:8, Revelation 20:12; Hebrews 13:4;​

Romans 2:3, Romans 2:5​

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Jesus Is God. All the verses in the Bible that talk about God Being The Judge​

Refer To Jesus, Since He Alone Judges. The Father judges no man John 5:22​

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Reason #34 from:

160 Scriptural Reasons Jesus Is God!​

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Amen.

 

[Traveler]

? What Saith The Scripture?:

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Jesus Alone Is The Great Judge John 5:22. The Judge Is God Psalms 50:6;​

Isaiah 33:22; Hebrews 12:23; Revelation 18:8, Revelation 20:12; Hebrews 13:4;​

Romans 2:3, Romans 2:5​

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Jesus Is God. All the verses in the Bible that talk about God Being The Judge​

Refer To Jesus, Since He Alone Judges. The Father judges no man John 5:22​

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Reason #34 from:

160 Scriptural Reasons Jesus Is God!​

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Amen.

Ok this shows the relationship.

1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

The accusations are presented to God the Father and it is Jesus the son that acts as our advocate.

Jesus is not his Father;

Heb 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Note that Jesus does not sit on the throne of God but on his own throne located at the right hand of his Fathers throne.

 

[Peterlag]

You were just shown the Scripture that Jesus is... God come in the flesh. Just His Title "Immanuel" in Isaiah should have been enough proof for you, and any Jew who would rather listen to unbelieving Jews that hate the idea of Jesus of Nazareth as The CHRIST.

When I speak that the Jewish people never taught it anywhere I mean in the Old Testament. I don't know why your mind pulls to the unbelieving Jews that hate the idea of Jesus of Nazareth as The CHRIST.

 

[Davy]

God the Father is the judge, The human committed the sin. A price needs to be paid for that sin, someone has to take the punishment, if Christ takes the punishment for that sin then the human sinner is set free. Because justus had been served. The sin was committed by a human so the punishment has to be given to a human, Hence Christ stressed that he was a son of man as well as the only begotten son of God.

Not of our fold in Christ, so welcome to my Ignore List.

 

[Davy]

i do not know the scripture claims, only come from the 'imposters' and 'counterfeits' among us. Who think they know something about the Holy Bible scripture, but they know nothing at all.

In one of my reply, Davy confessed, Jesus is GOD the FATHER Himself, also including without contest, Jesus is also God the Holy Spirit.

Apparently to Davy's version, Jesus is the Godhead of the Trinity, since He is called 'Emmanuel'.

Ironically, the 'stumbling blocks' in the path of the saints of grace and truth to stumble, but to no avail.

Another not of our fold in Christ, so welcome to my Ignore list.

 

[Davy]

You are, of course, correct, but it's deeper than that.

I'll not debate the simplicity that is in Jesus Christ, Immanuel God with us, born in the flesh through woman's womb to die on the cross in order to defeat the devil and death for us (Hebrews 2:14). Either one believes Jesus is God The Savior, or they do not unto their own chosen destruction.

 

[BarneyFife]

I'll not debate the simplicity that is in Jesus Christ, Immanuel God with us, born in the flesh through woman's womb to die on the cross in order to defeat the devil and death for us (Hebrews 2:14). Either one believes Jesus is God The Savior, or they do not unto their own chosen destruction.

And, yet, that is exactly what you're initiating with such a comment.

You make a distinction without a difference. We do not disagree. However, simplicity can be profound.

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[Davy]

And, yet, that is exactly what you're initiating with such a comment.

That statement of course is false, showing it is YOU that is trying... to initiate a false argument.

Either one believes that Jesus of Nazareth is "Emmanuel", God with us, come in the flesh, as written, or they do not. And those who do not show they do not in align with God's Word.

 

[Davy]

When I speak that the Jewish people never taught it anywhere I mean in the Old Testament. I don't know why your mind pulls to the unbelieving Jews that hate the idea of Jesus of Nazareth as The CHRIST.

Nothing but silly arguments from this one. Will not waste my time. Welcome to my Ignore list.

 

[BarneyFife]

That statement of course is false, showing it is YOU that is trying... to initiate a false argument.

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[Traveler]

Not of our fold in Christ, so welcome to my Ignore List.

And here comes the religiosity that leaves a path of destruction in its wake.

 

[Fred J]

Those void of revelation from the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ... say stuff like that

The scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and we testify, 'as it is 'written' or 'for it is written'. Apparently, the scripture doesn't support your 'twisted' claim, but rather 'exposes' the 'mix' and 'match', and that's a 'revelation' from the Spirit.

Again. 'for it is written', 'In the beginning was the Word, .........................................................."

 

[Davy]

The Bible Scriptures are simple that Jesus is The CHRIST come in the flesh. That 'Christ' Title is a Heavenly Title about 'GOD The Son' Who was specifically born in the flesh like us for the purpose of death on His cross, and in order to defeat the devil and death for us (Hebrews 2:14; 1 John 3:8).

1 John 2:22-23
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
KJV

When Apostle John spoke of denying that Jesus of Nazareth is "the Christ", that "Christ" Title is pointing to God The Son, One Person in the triune Godhead of God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit. That is actually what John was saying above.

Verse 23 above is yet more evidence by John to that fact. To deny The Son (Jesus as The Christ), is to deny The Father also. Likewise, to acknowledge Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ includes The Father also. One really cannot get any better proof of Apostle John saying that Jesus is God, that He and The Father are literally One. This is why Hebrews 1:3 says Jesus is the "express image" of The Father. This is even further proven when one looks up the translation from the Hebrew of Lord Jesus' Name, which INCLUDES The Father's Name in it.

1 John 4:3
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
KJV

Matthew 1:23 reveals one of Jesus Titles is "Emmanuel", which means "God with us". That was prophecy from Isaiah 7 and Isaiah 9:6 even calls The Son "The mighty God", and "The everlasting Father".

2 John 7
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
KJV

 

[Traveler]

This is the dictionary definition of Christ

G5547

Χριστός
Christos
khris-tos'
From G5548; anointed, that is, the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus: - Christ.

It means that Jesus is the anointed one. The Messiah that stands proxy for the sins of this word. It is his office and ministry that God the Father gave him.

Jesus is the Christ, Jesus is the anointed one.

It does not mean he is his Father.

 

[Peterlag]

The Bible Scriptures are simple that Jesus is The CHRIST come in the flesh. That 'Christ' Title is a Heavenly Title about 'GOD The Son' Who was specifically born in the flesh like us for the purpose of death on His cross, and in order to defeat the devil and death for us (Hebrews 2:14; 1 John 3:8).

1 John 2:22-23
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
KJV

When Apostle John spoke of denying that Jesus of Nazareth is "the Christ", that "Christ" Title is pointing to God The Son, One Person in the triune Godhead of God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit. That is actually what John was saying above.

Verse 23 above is yet more evidence by John to that fact. To deny The Son (Jesus as The Christ), is to deny The Father also. Likewise, to acknowledge Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ includes The Father also. One really cannot get any better proof of Apostle John saying that Jesus is God, that He and The Father are literally One. This is why Hebrews 1:3 says Jesus is the "express image" of The Father. This is even further proven when one looks up the translation from the Hebrew of Lord Jesus' Name, which INCLUDES The Father's Name in it.

1 John 4:3
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
KJV

Matthew 1:23 reveals one of Jesus Titles is "Emmanuel", which means "God with us". That was prophecy from Isaiah 7 and Isaiah 9:6 even calls The Son "The mighty God", and "The everlasting Father".

2 John 7
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
KJV

Can't even find a verse on God the Son. I'm just amazed how so many of you folks make up words that are not in the Bible.

 

[Truthnightmare]

When you have finished being pompous and judgmental yourself, let me just say that you have twisted the scriptures all out of shape, and by the looks of things, are happy with something created by “the church” rather than by God’s own word......Christendom is a disgusting counterfeit that is divided and disobedient, not open to anything that might upset their apple cart.....far be it from me to correct anyone who thinks they don’t need correction.

FYI, perhaps you need to read Genesis 1:27.....the man was “created”...(bara)

Our words will ring in your ears one day......and you will never be able to plead ignorance.....

“Shaking the dust off”.....(Matt 10:11-14)

Nonsense! We all need correction…

As it is written…

2 Timothy 3
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction……

The “man” or mankind created in Genesis 1 is not the man formed in Genesis 2.

This is clearly pointed out in the Hebrew.