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Biblical Mary!

Behold thy mother!

What does Behold in scripture mean?

A marvelous thing!
A miraculous action!
A wonder!
An awe inspiring declaration!

Behold thy mother!

John 19:26-27
When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith has he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

Jesus is not asking John to care for His Mary, if so He would have said so, he is not even speaking to John, scripture says He is addressing the disciple, therefore it applies to all disciples.

Jesus is making Mary spiritual mother to all disciples! And all disciples take Her into thier home, And if the apostle John needs a spiritual mother so do we!

What is the family of God without a mother? The mother is the heart of the family! Jesus said I will not leave you orphans! Jn 14:18 He gave Mary to be the mother of one disciple then He does so for all disciples!

As eve was the mother of all the living in the first creation, gen 3:20 so Mary is the mother of all those who live in Christ and the new creation! Behold, I make all things new!

Rev 12:17 our spiritual mother!

Rachel is spiritual mother of Israel!
A type of Mary as spiritual mother of Christians!

The 12 sons of Jacob have 4 biological mothers, but Rachel is the spiritual mother of all Israel!

Matt 2:18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are no more.




From Genesis to revelation!

First promise of salvation!

Gen 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Total war: enmity

None of satans works are found in Mary, she belongs entirely to God!
Even consecration herself to God at a very young age.

Isa 7:14

1 kings 2: 17 And he said, Speak, I pray thee, unto Solomon the king, (for he will not say thee nay,) that he give me Abishag the Shunammite to wife.

18 And Bathsheba said, Well; I will speak for thee unto the king.

19 Bathsheba therefore went unto king Solomon, to speak unto him for Adonijah. And the king rose up to meet her, and bowed himself unto her, and sat down on his throne, and caused a seat to be set for the king's mother; and she sat on his right hand.

20 Then she said, I desire one small petition of thee; I pray thee, say me not nay. And the king said unto her, Ask on, my mother: for I will not say thee nay.

2 Tim 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

2 Tim 2: 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. How much more Mary who was prepared by God thru the immaculate conception! Lk 1:49

Heb 2:7

Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands





Mary is the great sign of the divinity of Christ!

Isa 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Matt 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.


Lk 1:35
And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Lk 2:35
a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also, that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.

Matt 27:54
Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

Jn 2:3
And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.

Jn 2:11
This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

Rev 12:1
And there appeared a great sign in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Rev 1:5
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.





A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!

Mother of Divine Grace!

Hebrews 4:16
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.


The throne of Grace is the throne of Mary the ever Virgin mother of God!

We come boldly to this throne cause Mary is our mother and advocate!

Mary is the storehouse of divine graces!

Lk 1:28
And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail Mary, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.


Salvation is to be found with Mary!
Jesus Christ is our salvation! Lk 2:30
He is Lord, and He is with Mary! Lk 1:28
Mary found our salvation! Lk 1:30
Consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38



Mother of God Lk 1:43
Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30
Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-34

Queen of heaven
In the line of david’s kingdom the mother of the king is always queen
Jesus is king Lk 1:32-33
And king of heaven so Mary is queen of heaven

A Royal greeting!

Lk 1:28 is the only place in the Bible where such a greeting takes place!
Mary is of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!

God himself is greeting Mary thru the instrument of the angel Gabriel!

This is a Royal greeting of the queen of heaven and earth! Queen of the angels and saints! Mary is of the house of king David!

In the line of king David the mother of the king is the queen, as Jesus Christ is the king of heaven and earth and the angels and saints so Mary is the queen of the same! Lk 1:32-33

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
29 And when she had heard, she was troubled in his word, and thought what manner salutation this was.
30 And the angel said to her, Dread thou not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.

Mary is queen in rev 12:1 and heb 4:16
Mother of divine grace
 

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Why do You share that? Is it so you remember what you believe @theefaith?

I am not catholic or not do I judge what catholic do with their own faith. I do not ascribe to catholic doctrines though, but you are free to share them as you desire. My mind reading Biblical Mary just automatically assumed Catholic which doesn't have anything personally do with my very own personal look when it comes to reading about the bible and the scriptures provided. You may believe how you do when you use the scriptures like you do.

Believing on the Lord Jesus Christ is the most important thing to me personally but also understand not everyone may or does; though believe you are a believer regardless of being catholic.
 

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Why do You share that? Is it so you remember what you believe @theefaith?

I am not catholic or not do I judge what catholic do with their own faith. I do not ascribe to catholic doctrines though, but you are free to share them as you desire. My mind reading Biblical Mary just automatically assumed Catholic which doesn't have anything personally do with my very own personal look when it comes to reading about the bible and the scriptures provided. You may believe how you do when you use the scriptures like you do.

Believing on the Lord Jesus Christ is the most important thing to me personally but also understand not everyone may or does; though believe you are a believer regardless of being catholic.

thanks

Mk 16:16 another one of my faves
Faith and Baptism
Sacraments or sacred oath equals a promise of God
As in acts 2:38-39
Mary ever Virgin mother of God Lk 1:43
And of course the teaching authority of the apostles acts 2:42

Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18 Jn 20:21-23

Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors, and Interpreting scripture.

Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.

Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments the abundant life of grace!
 

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thanks

Mk 16:16 another one of my faves
Faith and Baptism
Sacraments or sacred oath equals a promise of God
As in acts 2:38-39
Mary ever Virgin mother of God Lk 1:43
And of course the teaching authority of the apostles acts 2:42

Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18 Jn 20:21-23

Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors, and Interpreting scripture.

Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.

Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments the abundant life of grace!

Here are some questions for you Theefaith~

Okay, Do you believe people have Authority now too as you are living? Have you been given Authority over anything ? Or is God the Authority and works on the minds and hearts of individual believers?

What are some of your thoughts on these topics?
 

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For sure, thank you for a moment of your time.

Pray to - > Father
The Holy Spirit -> Given from the Father -> given by Christ -> Christ dwells with-in us as believers, which is all given by the Father, by and through the Faith given from the Father to the believer who is growing in faith.

These are just some quick reverbs cause ~ This my way of seeing from scripture.

Thoughts?
Well the way you said it I agree personally with it all.....

Ironically however I still do not get how you believe that Christ is God Almighty...I get that the Father is the Almighty only and the Son is just that, not the boss, he is Christ and our Lord as our Christ only.....

As scripture is clear, Christ is the (only) mediator between God (Father) and you and me.....and as you said, the Spirit of Christ is this mediating spirit within you and me.
 
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blessed Mary ever Virgin mother of God is the mother of our salvation! Lk 2:30
You must be a deep state Catholic Mary worshipper...now it makes sense as to why you do not do Bible study. You do Catechism at best and a lot of idol worshipping......
 

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Here are some questions for you Theefaith~

Okay, Do you believe people have Authority now too as you are living? Have you been given Authority over anything ? Or is God the Authority and works on the minds and hearts of individual believers?

What are some of your thoughts on these topics?

thanks for the questions

All authority belongs to Jesus Christ!
Matt 28:18-20

He shares His authority with Peter, the apostles, and their successors in four ways.

Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18

Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors, and Interpreting scripture.

Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.

Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments the abundant life of grace!

Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, so send in you. (The apostles) posses the same power mission and authority as Christ!
Peter, the apostles and their successors!

Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Also in Judging:

Matthew 19:28
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Peter and His successors:
The apostles and their successors:

both continue until the end when Christ returns. Matt 28:18-20 behold I am with you ( the apostles/ His church ) until the end.

Really it is Jesus Christ who continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20
 

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Well the way you said it I agree personally with it all.....

Ironically however I still do not get how you believe that Christ is God Almighty...I get that the Father is the Almighty only and the Son is just that, not the boss, he is Christ and our Lord as our Christ only.....

As scripture is clear, Christ is the (only) mediator between God (Father) and you and me.....and as you said, the Spirit of Christ is this mediating spirit within you and me.


APAK,

I didn't call Jesus Christ God Almighty.

Yet Lord God Almighty, is Christ Jesus.

(Jesus Christ -> the way, the truth, the life -> Lord -> God Almighty. (God in is all in all transfiguration -> Lord God Almighty. (After the Son gives everything back to the Father and all enemies been placed beneath the feet of Christ) ~ I believe this has happened.

Crazy idea right? :p
Jesus Christ is the mediator to God I agree.

Jesus did say he was the way, the truth, and the life and no on gets to the Father except through him.

It was really nice talking to you APAK:
Thank you for the response have only been in and out of the bible for the past 5 years, though am not better than anyone else, or anything do happen to understand quite a bit though.
 

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APAK,

I didn't call Jesus Christ God Almighty.

Yet Lord God Almighty, is Christ Jesus.

(Jesus Christ -> the way, the truth, the life -> Lord -> God Almighty. (God in is all in all transfiguration -> Lord God Almighty. (After the Son gives everything back to the Father and all enemies been placed beneath the feet of Christ) ~ I believe this has happened.

Crazy idea right? :p
Jesus Christ is the mediator to God I agree.

Jesus did say he was the way, the truth, and the life and no on gets to the Father except through him.

It was really nice talking to you APAK:
Thank you for the response have only been in and out of the bible for the past 5 years, though am not better than anyone else, or anything do happen to understand quite a bit though.
That's a new twist. So the Father is not the Almighty one, the Son took his place then..? Can you justify this stance?
 

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Why do you say to Him, @kcnalp?

How do you know that?

Are you sure APAK doesn't believe in the Lord Jesus Christ who lived, died, was buried and was risen again by God?

Who gives anyone the right to dominate and say who is not a Christian, and who is a Christian by whose authority? Authority of Jesus Christ ` which was given to the twelve disciples; or is it the Authority of God that a person is able to these things?
Whoever doesn't believe the Jesus is God of the Bible has a different Jesus than I do. And that means a different Savior! Jesus, God of the Bible is my Savior. I'm with Thomas!

John 20:28 Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God."
 

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That's a new twist. So the Father is not the Almighty one, the Son took his place then..? Can you justify this stance?

No one has to believe me, but it is what I believe. There is one scripture in Isiah that the child will be called Mighty God; if anything that would make Jesus the Lord God Almighty ~ Equal to the Father; Yes, Jesus Christ is the Lord, and the Father of the Lord (Son of God- Jesus Christ) is God Almighty.

Thoughts?
 

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No one has to believe me, but it is what I believe. There is one scripture in Isiah that the child will be called Mighty God; if anything that would make Jesus the Lord God Almighty ~ Equal to the Father; Yes, Jesus Christ is the Lord, and the Father of the Lord (Son of God- Jesus Christ) is God Almighty.

Thoughts?
Well they are your own beliefs....

You know that Isaiah 9:6 is a poorly translated verse like so many of them. And you got 'Mighty God' from it. I can explain it further if you wish.

And then the previous scripture you used of Thomas' words to Jesus of John 20:28 is another example. There is either a break, comma, between Lord and my God and/or God should be a lower cased god as was used to denote a special person of God the Father Creator, the Almighty or even the wicked one of God.

just saying...
 

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Here are some questions for you Theefaith~

Okay, Do you believe people have Authority now too as you are living? Have you been given Authority over anything ? Or is God the Authority and works on the minds and hearts of individual believers?

What are some of your thoughts on these topics?

i have no authority I’m not an apostle

yes the church is always in the custody of Peter and the apostles and their successors Matt 28:18-20
Eph 2:20 Jn 20:21-23

Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18

Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors, and Interpreting scripture.

Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.

Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments the abundant life of grace!

What authority does Christ have?
What power does Christ have?
What mission / ministry does Christ have?

Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission! Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!

The apostles are Christ’s successors!
They have authority to send others as well, apostle means one who is sent!

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20

Matt 16:17-19

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, so send in you. (The apostles) posses the same power mission and authority as Christ!
Peter, the apostles and their successors!


Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
 

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You must be a deep state Catholic Mary worshipper...now it makes sense as to why you do not do Bible study. You do Catechism at best and a lot of idol worshipping......
Only God may be worshipped
No Idols are permitted

Biblical Mary!

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!


Salvation is to be found with Mary!
Jesus Christ is our salvation! Lk 2:30
He is Lord, and He is with Mary! Lk 1:28
Mary found our salvation! Lk 1:30
Consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38



Mother of God Lk 1:43
Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30
Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-34
 

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APAK,

I didn't call Jesus Christ God Almighty.

Yet Lord God Almighty, is Christ Jesus.

(Jesus Christ -> the way, the truth, the life -> Lord -> God Almighty. (God in is all in all transfiguration -> Lord God Almighty. (After the Son gives everything back to the Father and all enemies been placed beneath the feet of Christ) ~ I believe this has happened.

Crazy idea right? :p
Jesus Christ is the mediator to God I agree.

Jesus did say he was the way, the truth, and the life and no on gets to the Father except through him.

It was really nice talking to you APAK:
Thank you for the response have only been in and out of the bible for the past 5 years, though am not better than anyone else, or anything do happen to understand quite a bit though.

His angels? That would be a God’s angels, right?

matt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
 

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i have no authority I’m not an apostle

yes the church is always in the custody of Peter and the apostles and their successors Matt 28:18-20
Eph 2:20 Jn 20:21-23

Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18

Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors, and Interpreting scripture.

Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.

Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments the abundant life of grace!

What authority does Christ have?
What power does Christ have?
What mission / ministry does Christ have?

Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission! Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!

The apostles are Christ’s successors!
They have authority to send others as well, apostle means one who is sent!

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20

Matt 16:17-19

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, so send in you. (The apostles) posses the same power mission and authority as Christ!
Peter, the apostles and their successors!


Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Why do you spam this to me?
 

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Genesis 2:7
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Jn 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
 

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You guys believe whatever it is you want


Right now there is a lot of things going on in my own life to worry about these things.

Keep believing and having faith in the Lord Jesus Christ ~ Who came, died, was buried, and was resurrected again by God and may the Love of God, and Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the fellowship of the holy spirit.
 
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