The Only True God, the God of Jesus Christ.

[Wrangler]

Since that statement itself if a lie, repeating a lie does not make it true. Anti-Trinitarians simply dig themselves deeper and deeper into a hole which has no bottom -- the bottomless pit.

LOL. The trinity is not in the Bible. Fact. An inconvenient truth.

 

[JunChosen]

"So, too, the Christ did not glorify himself by becoming a high priest,

Philippians 2:5-8

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

“You are my son; today I have become your father.”

The term is "begotten" and not "become your father!" You are adding to the words of God to suite your agenda which is contrary to Revelation 22:18

When did the term, "today I have begotten thee. occur? Do you know?

{Jesus Christ and his angels}

You bear false witness!!! The term is not "Jesus Christ and his angels," rather the written phrase declares, "Michael and his angels!" Again to suite your false doctrine!!!

To God Be The Glory

 

[JunChosen]

LOL. The trinity is not in the Bible. Fact. An inconvenient truth.

Yes, we've already stated the word "Trinity" is not in the Bible.

However, can you expound 2 Corinthians 13:14 and then tell us if it's Scripture or not?

To God Be The Glory

 

[Enoch111]

LOL. The trinity is not in the Bible. Fact. An inconvenient truth.

Only inconvenient for the wilfully blind.

 

[Enoch111]

It is no mystery that you are misrepresenting 1 Cor 11:3, which states God, in his unitarian nature, is head over Christ.

Wouldn't that be absurd? Someone being head over himself? Absurdity piled on absurdity is all you have.

 

[BroRando]

When did the term, "today I have begotten thee. occur? Do you know?

Yes, in Hebrews 5:5 silly. "So Christ also glorified not himself to be made a high priest, but he that spake unto him, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee:" (Hebrews 5:5 ASV)


English Standard Version
So also Christ did not exalt himself to be made a high priest, but was appointed by him who said to him, “You are my Son, today I have begotten you”;

Berean Literal Bible
So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become a high priest, but the One having said to Him: "You are My Son, today I have begotten You."

New King James Version
So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to Him: “You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.”

New American Standard Bible
So too Christ did not glorify Himself in becoming a high priest, but it was He who said to Him, “YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE FATHERED YOU”;

NASB 1995
So also Christ did not glorify Himself so as to become a high priest, but He who said to Him, "YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU";

NASB 1977
So also Christ did not glorify Himself so as to become a high priest, but He who said to Him, “THOU ART MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN THEE”;

Amplified Bible
So too Christ did not glorify Himself so as to be made a high priest, but He [was exalted and appointed by the One] who said to Him, “YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN (fathered) YOU [declared Your authority and rule over the nations]”;

Douay-Rheims Bible
So Christ also did not glorify himself, that he might be made a high priest: but he that said unto him: Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

English Revised Version
So Christ also glorified not himself to be made a high priest, but he that spake unto him, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee:

Literal Standard Version
So also the Christ did not glorify Himself to become Chief Priest, but He who spoke to Him: “You are My Son, today I have begotten You”;

Young's Literal Translation
so also the Christ did not glorify himself to become chief priest, but He who spake unto him: 'My Son thou art, I to-day have begotten thee;'

The firsbegotten was begotten a second time and was exalted. "The Father is Greater than I am" (John 14:28)

 

[Wrangler]

Yes, we've already stated the word "Trinity" is not in the Bible.

The trinity is not in the Bible - not the word, not the idea. There simply is no verse in the Bible that is anything like The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit - and if you do not believe they are coequal, co-substantial, co-eternal, you cannot be saved. An inconvenient fact for trinitarians.

 

[Wrangler]

Only inconvenient for the wilfully blind.

Right. It's just that you do not realize it is you who are willfully blind.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Jehovah was a title.

And never forever.

The four Hebrew letters YHWH which represented the Only True God name is pronounced Jehovah.The name Jehovah is the best-known English form of the Hebrew name God gave himself. This unique Hebrew name appears thousands of times in ancient Bible manuscripts. In fact, it appears more often than any other name mentioned in the Bible. It is important not only to know but also to use that name because the Bible tells us: “Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”—Romans 10:13; Joel 2:32.

 

[tsr]

Are angels divine beings?

Angels are well known to be messengers of the Divine who interact directly with humans. Every human on the planet has a personal angel who looks over us, this angel is known as the Guardian Angel, and the Guardian Angel watches over our Higher Self, and works to help reconnect us with our Divine I AM Presence and self-realization

 

[robert derrick]

The four Hebrew letters YHWH which represented the Only True God name is pronounced Jehovah.The name Jehovah is the best-known English form of the Hebrew name God gave himself. This unique Hebrew name appears thousands of times in ancient Bible manuscripts. In fact, it appears more often than any other name mentioned in the Bible. It is important not only to know but also to use that name because the Bible tells us: “Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”—Romans 10:13; Joel 2:32.

Whether once or a thousand times so named, you can call on Jehovah, and I will call on Jesus:

"And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth."

You can bow at your 'Jehovah' now, but one day you will bow at the name of Jesus.

He gave Himself the name Jehovah before, and now He has given Himself a better name: Jesus.

"A good name is better than precious ointment."

"Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they."

 

[robert derrick]

Angels are well known to be messengers of the Divine who interact directly with humans. Every human on the planet has a personal angel who looks over us, this angel is known as the Guardian Angel, and the Guardian Angel watches over our Higher Self, and works to help reconnect us with our Divine I AM Presence and self-realization

"Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels."

While we do sit now in heavenly places, I wouldn't call our being born again our 'higher self'.

And no angel has anything to do with my being with the Lord:

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."

I don't have an angel connecting me to anything, because I don't need to. There won't be any angel in heaven, if I make it there, saying to me, "Hey, you don't know me, but I was right there the whole time reconnecting you to the Divine I AM."

My answer would be, "Jesus I know, the Holy Spirit I know. You? I don't know..."

"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth."

When you are born of God Himself with Himself alive in your heart by His Spirit, you don't need some angel 'connecting' you to Him.

Now, a personal message spoken by an angel specially in appearance to me? That would be great. So long as the message is Scriptural:

"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."

That would include the fallen angel in Mohammed's cave and the other one that showed Smith the 'golden plates' and demanded he take many wives...or else. There was an angel stretching out his hand over Jerusalem to destroy it by plague, but I don't recall any Scripture where an angel showed himself personally with a sword ready to execute someone if they didn't keep God's commandment fully. Maybe it was that ass that spoke to Balaam that reincarnated himself as an angel that told Smith to go get many wives...

 

[robert derrick]

Are the worshippers of Jehovah washed in the blood of the Lamb Jesus?

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Whether once or a thousand times so named, you can call on Jehovah, and I will call on Jesus:

"And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth."

You can bow at your 'Jehovah' now, but one day you will bow at the name of Jesus.

He gave Himself the name Jehovah before, and now He has given Himself a better name: Jesus.

"A good name is better than precious ointment."

"Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they."

You like everyone else I've talked to who believes in the Trinity like you do never believes Jesus. He keeps telling us in scripture that he has a Father and God, he tells us this even after he's resurrected to an immortal incorruptible being, but you and others like you who believe in the Trinity just Don't listen. Do you honestly think he's lying, when he says he has a Father and God.

 

[BroRando]

And no angel has anything to do with my being with the Lord:

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."

Who do you think the Angel of the Covenant was?

Behold, I send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and the Lord whom ye seek will suddenly come to his temple, and the Angel of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he cometh, saith Jehovah of hosts. (Malachi 3:1)

 

[Butch5]

Jesus also said "I and my Father are one," or "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?"

To God Be The Glory

Yes, they are one, in unity. 'Not my will, butt thine be done'.

 

[Butch5]

This is true. But it does not detract from the fact that Jesus is God. Yet God the Father is the Head or authority over Christ (1 Cor 11:3). This is all a part of the Mystery of God and Christ.

What does that mean "Jesus is God"? I don't think there is a mystery concerning God and Christ. I think what people claim today appears to be a mystery because many are unwilling to admit that it is a logical contradiction. For some reason people have chosen to believe that which is illogical and unproveable in order to adhere to a doctrine that is refuted in Scripture.

 

[BroRando]

You like everyone else I've talked to who believes in the Trinity like you do never believes Jesus. He keeps telling us in scripture that he has a Father and God, he tells us this even after he's resurrected to an immortal incorruptible being, but you and others like you who believe in the Trinity just Don't listen. Do you honestly think he's lying, when he says he has a Father and God.

Here is something to note:

In John 1:18 it states "No Man has Seen God at ANY Time" Yet, some Bible translations removed the second instance of God. Why remove God from scripture? "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him." (John 1:18) Jesus is “a god,” or a mighty one, because he is given power and authority from the almighty God, the Father. (Mt 28:18; 1Co 8:6; Heb 1:2) Because Jesus is the only one directly created by God and the only one through whom all things “came into existence” (Joh 1:3), he is appropriately called “the only-begotten god.” This expression shows that Jesus holds a unique position of glory and preeminence in relation to all of God’s spirit sons.

Trinitarians could not have a begotten god within the three sperate persons if they are co-existent. Having a begotten god would nullify the trinity. Therefore, they twisted the scripture by removing the second instance of theos.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Here is something to note:

In John 1:18 it states "No Man has Seen God at ANY Time" Yet, some Bible translations removed the second instance of God. Why remove God from scripture? "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him." (John 1:18) Jesus is “a god,” or a mighty one, because he is given power and authority from the almighty God, the Father. (Mt 28:18; 1Co 8:6; Heb 1:2) Because Jesus is the only one directly created by God and the only one through whom all things “came into existence” (Joh 1:3), he is appropriately called “the only-begotten god.” This expression shows that Jesus holds a unique position of glory and preeminence in relation to all of God’s spirit sons.

Trinitarians could not have a begotten god within the three sperate persons if they are co-existent. Having a begotten god would nullify the trinity. Therefore, the twisted the scripture by removing the second instance of theos.

That's interesting, I can't say I even noticed they took the word God out of that scripture, thanks for that information BroRando

 

[BroRando]

That's interesting, I can't say I even noticed they took the word God out of that scripture, thanks for that information BroRando

Here is John 1:18 in Greek, they removed the second instance of theos.