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Firstly: - No need to shout at me with your bold text.

Secondly: - If you take the time to read Acts 7:2-3, it tells us that God began establishing the Abrahamic covenant firstly with Abraham while Abraham was still in Ur of the Chaldeans before he had arrived in Haran. Then with Isaac and finally with Jacob before he left Bathsheba to go down to Egypt.

These verses confirm this fact: -

Exodus 6:8: - And I will bring you into the land which I swore to give to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; and I will give it to you as a heritage: I am the Lord.'"

Exodus 33:1: - Then the Lord said to Moses, "Depart and go up from here, you and the people whom you have brought out of the land of Egypt, to the land of which I swore to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, saying,'To your descendants I will give it.'

Numbers 32:11: - 'Surely none of the men who came up from Egypt, from twenty years old and above, shall see the land of which I swore to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, because they have not wholly followed Me,

Deuteronomy 1:8: - See, I have set the land before you; go in and possess the land which the Lord swore to your fathers — to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob — to give to them and their descendants after them.'

Deuteronomy 6:10: - "So it shall be, when the Lord your God brings you into the land of which He swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give you large and beautiful cities which you did not build,

Deuteronomy 9:5: - It is not because of your righteousness or the uprightness of your heart that you go in to possess their land, but because of the wickedness of these nations that the Lord your God drives them out from before you, and that He may fulfill the word which the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Deuteronomy 9:27: - Remember Your servants, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; do not look on the stubbornness of this people, or on their wickedness or their sin,

Deuteronomy 29:13: - that He may establish you today as a people for Himself, and that He may be God to you, just as He has spoken to you, and just as He has sworn to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Deuteronomy 30:20: - that you may love the Lord your God, that you may obey His voice, and that you may cling to Him, for He is your life and the length of your days; and that you may dwell in the land which the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give them."

Deuteronomy 34:4: - Then the Lord said to him,"This is the land of which I swore to give Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, saying, 'I will give it to your descendants.' I have caused you to see it with your eyes, but you shall not cross over there."

2 Kings 13:23: - But the Lord was gracious to them, had compassion on them, and regarded them, because of His covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and would not yet destroy them or cast them from His presence.

Jeremiah 33:26: - then I will cast away the descendants of Jacob and David My servant, so that I will not take any of his descendants to be rulers over the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. For I will cause their captives to return, and will have mercy on them.'"

Matthew 8:11: - And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.

Acts 3:13: - The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified His Servant Jesus, whom you delivered up and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let Him go.

Perhaps you might like to rethink your understanding and come into a far better understanding of God's word instead of your private POV.

The interpretation of Paul Apostle on Scriptures, which I mentioned, is much more accurate and truer than yours. He had the Spirit of GOD, he was full of Holy Spirit.
 

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If you are claiming that this will not happen, then it is you who is the liar as you shown your lack of understanding of God's purposes for the nation of Israel.

Have a good day, now.
It appears that the purpose for National Israel will be that 2/3 will die.

Zechariah 13:8KJV
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

Luke 20:20-23KJV
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
 

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What do you think is the first seal? Who is riding the white horse.
These are explained in the Old Testament writing. Most people who believe the seven seals are the start of the tribulation period that brings forth Satan. They teach the HS is taken out at the fourth chapter of revelation. Those who teach such things must be prepared to call Peter a liar. He didn’t know what he was talking about on Pentecost when he quoted Joel laying out to us the pouring out of the HS. You see the quote stated the HS pouring out on the Day of Pentecost and ends with the sun being darkened and the moon blood red. I know a lot of people say there has been eclipses in the past. But this one will be different from all others. Just before the eclipse a great earthquake will precede it. So should you be alive to witness a great earthquake just before the eclipse you’ll see Christ appear in the sky.
 

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(Blah) Reject Gods Presented Truth Below (Blah) Reject Gods Presented Truth Below (Blah) Reject Gods Presented Truth Below

As (John) 5:28-29 clearly teaches below, all that are in the graves shall hear his voice and shall come forth, this takes place on the (Last Day) at the second coming of Jesus Christ

Two resurrections are seen below (First) the resurrection to life (Second) the resurrection to damnation, the righteous are blessed to be in the (First) resurrection as seen in (Revelation) 20:5-6


(THE LAST DAY RESURRECTION)

(John) 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.


(John) 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

(THE LAST DAY JUDGEMENT)

(John) 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

You have been shown several times that the resurrection of all takes place on the last day, at the second coming of Jesus Jesus Christ, you deny the words (Then Cometh The End) before your eyes below as if they dont exist

Ron you disregard (Then Cometh The End) as you desire to see a mortal Millennial Kingdom on earth, after the coming of Jesus Christ

afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many falsely claim

(Then Cometh The End)

(Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

1 Corinthians 15:21-24 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

In perfect agreement with 1 Corinthians 15:23-24, the believer will be raised up, resurrected on the Last Day, (The End)

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing,
but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
 

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(Blah) Reject Gods Presented Truth Below (Blah) Reject Gods Presented Truth Below (Blah) Reject Gods Presented Truth Below

As (John) 5:28-29 clearly teaches below, all that are in the graves shall hear his voice and shall come forth, this takes place on the (Last Day) at the second coming of Jesus Christ

Two resurrections are seen below (First) the resurrection to life (Second) the resurrection to damnation, the righteous are blessed to be in the (First) resurrection as seen in (Revelation) 20:5-6


(THE LAST DAY RESURRECTION)

(John) 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.


(John) 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

(THE LAST DAY JUDGEMENT)

(John) 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

You have been shown several times that the resurrection of all takes place on the last day, at the second coming of Jesus Jesus Christ, you deny the words (Then Cometh The End) before your eyes below as if they dont exist

Ron you disregard (Then Cometh The End) as you desire to see a mortal Millennial Kingdom on earth, after the coming of Jesus Christ

afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many falsely claim

(Then Cometh The End)

(Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

1 Corinthians 15:21-24 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

In perfect agreement with 1 Corinthians 15:23-24, the believer will be raised up, resurrected on the Last Day, (The End)

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing,
but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.


See once again you are wrong! I agree 100% with these passages. But you reject this passage:

Revelation 20:6-8
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6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,


YOu are lewft with only three conclusions:

1. the bible contradicts itself
2. you have to allegorically reinterpret scripture to defend your doctrine.
3. You misunderstand the passages you use to defend your position because this other passage contradicts YOUR commentary.
 

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See once again you are wrong! I agree 100% with these passages. But you reject this passage:

Revelation 20:6-8
King James Version

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,


YOu are lewft with only three conclusions:

1. the bible contradicts itself
2. you have to allegorically reinterpret scripture to defend your doctrine.
3. You misunderstand the passages you use to defend your position because this other passage contradicts YOUR commentary.
Ron Your belief and teaching that "The Souls" seen below are living humans on this earth is "False"

"The Souls" seen below were beheaded during the tribulation, and they live and reign in the spiritual with Jesus Christ, waiting for the (First Resurrection) that takes place on the (Last Day) John 5:28-29, John 6:39-40

They Lived? Because they are amongst the living and not the dead, just as all believers are amongst the living.

Luke 20:38KJV
38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him

Revelation 20:4KJV
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Ron you can't find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time (Fact)

2 Peter 3:8JV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6JV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 

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The interpretation of Paul Apostle on Scriptures, which I mentioned, is much more accurate and truer than yours. He had the Spirit of GOD, he was full of Holy Spirit.

It seems to me that your justification is more for your benefit to justify your private interpretation of the scriptures than it was for what is recorded that the Apostle Paul has written.

So even though I provided scripture to back up my argument, you are now discounting those passages of the scripture because you are saying that they were not written by an apostle who was filled with the Holy Spirit. This argument leads to the question: -

Which parts of the scriptures are a true record of the word of God and which parts are not a true record of the word of God?

I fear that you have been sold a pup, my good man.

Have a good day now.
 

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It appears that the purpose for National Israel will be that 2/3 will die.

Zechariah 13:8KJV
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

Luke 20:20-23KJV
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

With regards to the scripture passages quoted, I do not disagree with them.
 

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Does not God himself through His prophets tell us that He will Gather the descendants of Abraham to Himself. If you are claiming that this will not happen, then it is you who is the liar as you shown your lack of understanding of God's purposes for the nation of Israel.

Have a good day, now.

Thats your conjecture and useless or even foolish opinion.

What prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand?

GOD said: Isaiah 5:v.3 to 7 - Complete Jewish Bible

7 - Now the vineyard of Adonai-Tzva’ot
is the house of Isra’el,

and the men of Y’hudah
are the plant he delighted in.
So he expected justice,
but look — bloodshed! —
and righteousness, but listen —
cries of distress!

3 Now, citizens of Yerushalayim and people of Y’hudah,
judge between me-GOD- and my vineyard.

4 What more could I have done for my vineyard
that I haven’t already done in it?
So why, when I expected good grapes,

did it produce sour, wild grapes?

5 Now come, I will tell you
what I will do to my vineyard:

I will remove its hedge,
and [its grapes] will be eaten up;
I will break through its fence,
and [its vines] will be trampled down
. (Revelation 11:v.1-2 -
verse 2: But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

I will let it go to waste:
it will be neither pruned nor hoed,
but overgrown with briars and thorns.
I will also order the clouds
not to let rain fall on it.
(Revelation 11:v.6 - 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters (peoples, and nations, and multitues and togues) to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth(Israel-the clay, the dry land) with all plagues, as often as they will.)


Revelation 14:v. 17 to 20
17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth (Israel); for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth
(Israel), and gathered the vine of the earth(Israel), and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

20 And the winepress was (will be) trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.



Romans 9:v.20 to 23

20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?



Understand, what prevails is the Word of God, not human conceptions, opinions, imaginations, speculations, conjectures, and so on.

The vine of the earth(Israel) will be gathered and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
And the winepress will be trodden without the city(Revelation 11:v.1-2), and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
 

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It seems to me that your justification is more for your benefit to justify your private interpretation of the scriptures than it was for what is recorded that the Apostle Paul has written.

So even though I provided scripture to back up my argument, you are now discounting those passages of the scripture because you are saying that they were not written by an apostle who was filled with the Holy Spirit. This argument leads to the question: -

Which parts of the scriptures are a true record of the word of God and which parts are not a true record of the word of God?

I fear that you have been sold a pup, my good man.

The interpretation of Paul Apostle on Scriptures, which I mentioned, is much more accurate and truer than yours. He had the Spirit of GOD, he was full of Holy Spirit.
 

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Thats your conjecture and useless or even foolish opinion.

What prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand?

GOD said: Isaiah 5:v.3 to 7 - Complete Jewish Bible

7 - Now the vineyard of Adonai-Tzva’ot
is the house of Isra’el,

and the men of Y’hudah
are the plant he delighted in.
So he expected justice,
but look — bloodshed! —
and righteousness, but listen —
cries of distress!

3 Now, citizens of Yerushalayim and people of Y’hudah,
judge between me-GOD- and my vineyard.

4 What more could I have done for my vineyard
that I haven’t already done in it?
So why, when I expected good grapes,

did it produce sour, wild grapes?

5 Now come, I will tell you
what I will do to my vineyard:

I will remove its hedge,
and [its grapes] will be eaten up;
I will break through its fence,
and [its vines] will be trampled down
. (Revelation 11:v.1-2 -
verse 2: But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

I will let it go to waste:
it will be neither pruned nor hoed,
but overgrown with briars and thorns.
I will also order the clouds
not to let rain fall on it.
(Revelation 11:v.6 - 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters (peoples, and nations, and multitues and togues) to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth(Israel-the clay, the dry land) with all plagues, as often as they will.)


Revelation 14:v. 17 to 20
17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth (Israel); for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth
(Israel), and gathered the vine of the earth(Israel), and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

20 And the winepress was (will be) trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.



Romans 9:v.20 to 23

20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?



Understand, what prevails is the Word of God, not human conceptions, opinions, imaginations, speculations, conjectures, and so on.

The vine of the earth(Israel) will be gathered and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
And the winepress will be trodden without the city(Revelation 11:v.1-2), and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

I see that you are still grasping at strays to prove that your understanding is better than what I have presented.

It is obvious to me that you have no understanding of the end time and how it will pan out or a revelation from the Holy Spirit to confirm what you privately believe, is true. It seems to me that your source of validation is suspect to say the least.

Have a great day now.
 

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With regards to the scripture passages quoted, I do not disagree with them.
If you agree with the scripture, why do you project a higher purpose for "National Israel", and remain silent on the presented truth below?

It appears that the purpose for National Israel will be that 2/3 will die.

Zechariah 13:8KJV
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

Luke 20:20-23KJV
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
 
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If you agree with the scripture, why do you project a higher purpose for "National Israel", and remain silent on the presented truth below?

It appears that the purpose for National Israel will be that 2/3 will die.

Zechariah 13:8KJV
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

Luke 20:20-23KJV
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

You are focusing on the wrong end of the yard stick. What about the blessing that the nation of Israel will become after they enter into the refurbished Kingdom of Priest, a Holy Nation and God's possession among the Nations Covenant. Will this covenant not come into effect during the Millennium Age?
 

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You are focusing on the wrong end of the yard stick. What about the blessing that the nation of Israel will become after they enter into the refurbished Kingdom of Priest, a Holy Nation and God's possession among the Nations Covenant. Will this covenant not come into effect during the Millennium Age?
In Love, Jesus Is the Lord

Jay you cant find a physical Millennial Kingdom On This Earth In Revelation 20:1-6, Because It Dodent Exist

Millennialist Perform A Shake Of The Magician's Wand In Revelation 20:1-6, Then Run Off To The Old Testament, Using The Eternal Kingdom In The New Heaven And Earth, And Falsely Claim Its A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, We Will Disagree


Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)?

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time?

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 

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You are focusing on the wrong end of the yard stick. What about the blessing that the nation of Israel will become after they enter into the refurbished Kingdom of Priest, a Holy Nation and God's possession among the Nations Covenant. Will this covenant not come into effect during the Millennium Age?
In Love, Jesus Is the Lord

Jay As scripture clearly teaches below in 1 Corinthinas 15:23-24 , when Jesus Christ returns then comes (The End)

Many disregard (Then Cometh The End) as they desire to see a mortal Millennial Kingdom on earth, after the coming of Jesus Christ

afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many falsely claim

(Then Cometh The End)

(Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end,
when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
 
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Read Mark 13 about second coming and abomination that causes desolation then read up about what's on the walls of the dome of the rock inside and out and where Christ was when he said those things. We are already in end times have been for a long time but its drawing to the end.
 

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You are focusing on the wrong end of the yard stick. What about the blessing that the nation of Israel will become after they enter into the refurbished Kingdom of Priest, a Holy Nation and God's possession among the Nations Covenant. Will this covenant not come into effect during the Millennium Age?
In Love, Jesus Is the Lord

Jay There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation.

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ!

(Behold, I Make All Things New)


2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance
on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 

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These are explained in the Old Testament writing. Most people who believe the seven seals are the start of the tribulation period that brings forth Satan. They teach the HS is taken out at the fourth chapter of revelation. Those who teach such things must be prepared to call Peter a liar. He didn’t know what he was talking about on Pentecost when he quoted Joel laying out to us the pouring out of the HS. You see the quote stated the HS pouring out on the Day of Pentecost and ends with the sun being darkened and the moon blood red. I know a lot of people say there has been eclipses in the past. But this one will be different from all others. Just before the eclipse a great earthquake will precede it. So should you be alive to witness a great earthquake just before the eclipse you’ll see Christ appear in the sky.

You didn't answer my question. Did you understand it?
 

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This is the only rapture, the gathering is at the second coming, not some secret rapture 7 years prior to the gathering together. Those who mourn, are not saved.

The second coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 is at the mid trib point, and that timeline is established as a fact, because Jesus has the abomination of desolation occurring in verse 15 - which is in the middle of Daniels 70th week - then the GREAT tribulation, which is the last 42 months, starts in verse 21, followed by His second coming in verse 30-31, as the next event.
Jesus confirms again His mid trib second coming, by saying He comes after THE tribulation - verse 29 - not the GREAT tribulation that He refers to in verse 21, but the tribulation, which is the first 42 months of the tribulation - (which is general tribulation- there’s no mark given yet, no wearing out the saints of God yet, as in the last 42 months).

Notice also that the sun goes dark, and the moon goes black, just before His second coming, which os what happens at the great and terrible day of the lord - the day of the lord, and the Lords return, are the same event.

Therefore, when Paul wrote in 2 Thessalonians 2 that we won’t be gathered together to be with the Lord until the mid-trib event occurs called the abomination of desolation (caused by the son of perdition declaring himself God while sitting in the Jewish temple), and also calls it the day of the lord, he didn’t switch topics or events - the second coming of the Lord, and the day of the Lord, are synonymous.

Back up one chapter in 2 Thessalonians 2, to chapter one, and it confirms that Jesus returns with flaming fire and the vengeance of the Lord, which occurs at the day of the lord.

So we have the dark sun and black moon occurring just before His coming, in Matthew 24, and that He comes with flaming fire and vengeance in 2 Thessalonians 1, verifying the day of the Lord and His second coming are the same event - then Paul writes we won’t be gathered together to be with Jesus in the second coming/day of the Lord until the mid-trib son of perdition/abomination of desolation event happens, in 2 Thessalonians 2.
 

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The second coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 is at the mid trib point, and that timeline is established as a fact, because Jesus has the abomination of desolation occurring in verse 15 - which is in the middle of Daniels 70th week - then the GREAT tribulation, which is the last 42 months, starts in verse 21, followed by His second coming in verse 30-31, as the next event.
Jesus confirms again His mid trib second coming, by saying He comes after THE tribulation - verse 29 - not the GREAT tribulation that He refers to in verse 21, but the tribulation, which is the first 42 months of the tribulation - (which is general tribulation- there’s no mark given yet, no wearing out the saints of God yet, as in the last 42 months).

Notice also that the sun goes dark, and the moon goes black, just before His second coming, which os what happens at the great and terrible day of the lord - the day of the lord, and the Lords return, are the same event.

Therefore, when Paul wrote in 2 Thessalonians 2 that we won’t be gathered together to be with the Lord until the mid-trib event occurs called the abomination of desolation (caused by the son of perdition declaring himself God while sitting in the Jewish temple), and also calls it the day of the lord, he didn’t switch topics or events - the second coming of the Lord, and the day of the Lord, are synonymous.

Back up one chapter in 2 Thessalonians 2, to chapter one, and it confirms that Jesus returns with flaming fire and the vengeance of the Lord, which occurs at the day of the lord.

So we have the dark sun and black moon occurring just before His coming, in Matthew 24, and that He comes with flaming fire and vengeance in 2 Thessalonians 1, verifying the day of the Lord and His second coming are the same event - then Paul writes we won’t be gathered together to be with Jesus in the second coming/day of the Lord until the mid-trib son of perdition/abomination of desolation event happens, in 2 Thessalonians 2.
In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

What you claim to be fact is "Error"

The Church will be present on earth to witness the great tribulation, and second coming of Jesus Christ in the heavens, just as Luke 21:25-28 "Clearly" teaches below, there will be (no pre or mid trib rapture) as many falsely teach in error

Luke 21:25-28KJV
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.