The Only True God, the God of Jesus Christ.

[kcnalp]

No. You disprove it.

You didn't even quote a Bible. RED FLAG!

But you seldom quote Chapter, verse or translation. I wonder why.

 

[BroRando]

You didn't even quote a Bible. RED FLAG!

But you seldom quote Chapter, verse or translation. I wonder why.

You can't quote the Bible about a three persons god. So what's the difference??

 

[kcnalp]

You can't quote the Bible about a three persons god. So what's the difference??

I quoted YOUR Bible several times that you cannot refute.

NWT John 20:28 " In answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and my God!”

 

[BroRando]

I quoted YOUR Bible several times that you cannot refute.

NWT John 20:28 " In answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and my God!”

Titles are given to angels and humans alike.... Jesus called His Father... the only true God in (John 17:3)

 

[kcnalp]

Titles are given to angels and humans alike.... Jesus called His Father... the only true God in (John 17:3)

Thomas called Jesus "My Lord and my God". I'll take Thomas' word over Kingdom Hall's.

 

[robert derrick]

better check scripture

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!

Biblical Mary:

Mother of God Lk 1:43

Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus)

Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30

Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-34

Queen of heaven
In the line of david’s kingdom the mother of the king is always queen
Jesus is king Lk 1:32-33
And king of heaven so Mary is queen of heaven

A Royal greeting!

Lk 1:28 is the only place in the Bible where such a greeting takes place!
Mary is of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!

God himself is greeting Mary thru the instrument of the angel Gabriel!

This is a Royal greeting of the queen of heaven and earth! Queen of the angels and saints! Mary is of the house of king David!

In the line of king David the mother of the king is the queen, as Jesus Christ is the king of heaven and earth and the angels and saints so Mary is the queen of the same! Lk 1:32-33

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
29 And when she had heard, she was troubled in his word, and thought what manner salutation this was.
30 And the angel said to her, Dread thou not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.

Mary is queen in rev 12:1 and heb 4:16
Mother of divine grace

now to the blood, merits of Christ
Jn 1:16 Jn 1:29

how did you drink his blood?

I guess only those at the cross are saved? Those whom the blood fell on?

Sacraments instituted by Christ for the salvation of souls!

Not by “faith alone”
“Faith alone” not biblical
“Faith alone” never given in prophesy in the OT.
You may think “Accept Jesus Christ as you personal Lord and savior” is biblical but there is no such verse in your bible!

Faith and the sacraments in the church founded by the authority Christ on Peter and the apostles is biblical!

Faith and baptism is the biblical initiation into the new covenant and member is Christ and His holy church!


Merits of christ’s passion, death, and precious blood are applied in the sacraments!

Colossians 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Rom 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

1 pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Heb 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Lk 1: 72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

There is only one true church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles and their successors is the new covenant body of Christ! Matt 1:18 & Jn 10:16 one fold

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Christ and His church are one: acts 9 why persecute me?




Sacraments are the fruit of the sacrifice!
The holy sacrifice of Christ, His passion, blood, and death producing unlimited fruits of divine grace, actual and sanctifying grace! Jn 1:29 Jn 1:16-17 Jn 10:10


The promise (sacred oath or sacrament) of the Father acts 2:38-39 with reference to ez 36:25-27 Also a mystery
Mk 4:11 Eph 5:32 eph 6:19 1 Tim 3:9 3:16 Col 1:27 2:2 4:3

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Jn 3:5 born again by water and the spirit.

Heb 7:21 For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec
(Oath = sacrament)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Based on Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:



A promise is a sacred oath or sacrament!
Baptismal regeneration is the promise of the Father for union in the new covenant!

The church and the seven sacraments are necessary for salvation

Better covenant on better promises

2 Timothy 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,

Life of supernatural grace merited by Christ in His passion and death!

An oath to sacramental life in the new covenant in union with the mediator and communion with God, and the saints!

Promise of the Father acts 2:23-39
Promise is an oath and an oath is a sacrament! This promise of the sacrament of baptism refers to ez. 36:25-27

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark all died and outside the church there is no salvation!)

"Proof: Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb? Have you drank of His blood? Yes or No?"

No answer is worse than a flat no.

"So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." (Rev 3)

 

[BroRando]

Thomas called Jesus "My Lord and my God". I'll take Thomas' word over Kingdom Hall's.

Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’? those against whom the word of God came—and yet the scripture cannot be nullified—whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? (John 10:34-36)

 

[theefaith]

Was Peter an apostle?

the prince of the apostles
The first

the head of the church on earth
Supreme teacher of thee faith

matt 10:2

 

[theefaith]

Then why do catholics reject and deny the Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ? Wouldn't a person who rejects the teaching of the apostles be called an apostate?

• Peter said to them: “Repent, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the free gift of the holy spirit.” (Acts 2:38)

peter commanded baptism
But the form comes from Christ Matt 28:19

 

[robert derrick]

I do gladly drink of the blood of the Son and am washed in the blood of the Lamb by His grace.

It is my personal belief that God has declared the decree, that though religious hypocrites and worshippers of false religion in Christian name only, may well give lip service to the Lord and even to the name of Jesus, but no man will do so with the blood of the Lamb.

No such false believers have ever given an answer, but only ignore it. An ashiest once answered flatly no, and a Muslim once tried to fight over it, because it was filthy to him. A non-answer is far worse than a flat no.

"So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." (Rev 3)

Those Catholics of the Mother Mary sect are not saved by Jesus, born again of the Spirit, nor redeemed by the precious blood of Christ.

The proof remains. They will not answer the most simplest of questions: Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb? Do you drink of His blood for life within?

 

[BroRando]

Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’? those against whom the word of God came—and yet the scripture cannot be nullified—whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? (John 10:34-36)

Jesus said to him: “Why do you call ME good? Nobody is good except one, God.” (Mark 10:18)

CHECKMATE! Go ahead deny the words of Jesus Christ.

 

[BroRando]

peter commanded baptism
But the form comes from Christ Matt 28:19

The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263: “The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century.”

 

[kcnalp]

Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’? those against whom the word of God came—and yet the scripture cannot be nullified—whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? (John 10:34-36)

Jesus would have severely rebuked Thomas if Thomas was wrong. Are you a god? Which translation???

 

[Wrangler]

Jesus said to him: “Why do you call ME good? Nobody is good except one, God.” (Mark 10:18)

CHECKMATE! Go ahead deny the words of Jesus Christ.

Dualism does not deny, they just +. God and God alone is IN + Other people are also in OR + God is also OUT. They don't consider this a contradiction. Dualism: Trinitarians delight.

 

[kcnalp]

Jesus said to him: “Why do you call ME good? Nobody is good except one, God.” (Mark 10:18)

CHECKMATE! Go ahead deny the words of Jesus Christ.

Now you're saying Jesus wasn't good? Oh my!!!

 

[BroRando]

Jesus would have severely rebuked Thomas if Thomas was wrong. Are you a god? Which translation???

Not necessarily. Thomas was entraining the same thoughts that Judas had before betraying him. Thomas was spiritually weak and was doubting.

 

[theefaith]

"Proof: Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb? Have you drank of His blood? Yes or No?"

No answer is worse than a flat no.

"So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." (Rev 3)

yes in the sacraments we receive grace
Grace is the fruit of the sacrifice of Christ his sacraments
His merits applied to our souls


Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Rom 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Romans 6:3
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Rom 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.


Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

1 Corinthians 1:2
Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:

Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Ephesians 1:13
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:5 
One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Colossians 2:12
Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

Gal 4:19
My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; (baptism)

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Heb 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

1 Jn 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

1 Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

(Born of God) faith and baptism

Jn 1:12-13 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

1 Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

1 pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

1 Peter 1:22
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: see Ez 36

Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, (baptism rom 6:3-4)

1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark all died and outside the church there is no salvation!)
The holy church founded by Christ is the ark of salvation!



not faith alone

 

[BroRando]

Now you're saying Jesus wasn't good? Oh my!!!

But it is necessary to get them on record for denying Jesus Christ's words as the Word of God.

 

[kcnalp]

Not necessarily.

For calling Him "My God"? He certainly would!

Thomas was entraining the same thoughts that Judas had before betraying him. Thomas was spiritually weak and was doubting.

Thomas knew Jesus personally. I'll take his word and the fact that Jesus didn't rebuke Thomas for calling Jesus "My God"!

 

[BroRando]

But it is necessary to get them on record for denying Jesus Christ's words as the Word of God.

You are one the rejecting the word of God not me silly,