I have to get money, but what's the point on that question? You know the answerAnd how do you intend to feed her, much less that beautiful Christian family?
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I have to get money, but what's the point on that question? You know the answerAnd how do you intend to feed her, much less that beautiful Christian family?
I have to get money, but what's the point on that question? You know the answer
Are you a virgin?I don’t know where to post this but anyway,
I’m a 18yo Christian male wishing to find a sweet, innocent, devout Christian teenage girl in France to marry, but I don’t know how I can find the right one. I have heard many Frenchmen in their twenties & thirties complaining that they can’t find one, that there are no young people in churches, that there are no virgin girls anymore, that there are no really Christian girls anymore, that everyone cheats these days, that they will be forever alone etc, it’s horrific I’m starting to get worried and afraid that I’m predestined to be single & lonely for the rest of my life. All the girls I see look like they’re ******** with everyone, or simply not worthy of marriage, I’m so sad I’m even feeling like I’m drifting away from God, I feel that I can’t survive alone and that I’m going to get depressed if I find myself without anyone, my mast- addiction has got worse and I feel so guilty & worthless now. I will first deal with sexual immorality so that I can be clean and meet the girl of my dreams, but I fear so much that I will never find her and live lonely & depressed forever. I fear even more that I will lose my faith in God and my soul be stolen by some kind of occult or pagan cult, I don’t want this to happen but I see myself very weak if I find myself with nobody in the future, I really need a female in my life I can’t see myself living alone, and I’m feeling more hopeless than ever, please help!
Can this be described as getting the cart in front of the horse?
Or is it,
You can lead a horse to water but you cannot force the horse to drink.
He is looking...he isn't ready to get married to a stranger yet. Just dating with an intent to marry...
Nobody wants to marry a complete stranger.
@Chrétien
Well I did a quick little study the other day. On how men met their wives in the Bible.
Interestingly the first few finds mentioned in the Bible happened at a well.
A summary on how Issac got his wife, surprise surprise, Issac did not have to do much at all.
Abraham commands his servant not to take a wife from the daughters of the Canaanites, but instructs him to go to his country, and get Issac a wife from there, Abraham also tells his servant to not take Issac with him.
So Abraham's servant goes to Abraham's country without Issac with 10 camels and his master's (Abraham's) goods. Now here is the "Well" part. He makes the camels kneel down outside the city by a well of water at evening time, the time when women go out to draw water.
Now here is the part that you are wanting to hear.
Abraham's servant prays to God
“O Lord , God of my master, Abraham,” he prayed. “Please give me success today, and show unfailing love to my master, Abraham. See, I am standing here beside this spring, and the young women of the town are coming out to draw water. This is my request. I will ask one of them, ‘Please give me a drink from your jug.’ If she says, ‘Yes, have a drink, and I will water your camels, too!’—let her be the one you have selected as Isaac’s wife. This is how I will know that you have shown unfailing love to my master.”
And before he finishes praying, a woman named Rebekah comes out with a pitcher and his prayer is answer, both Abraham's servant and the camels are given water. Abraham's servant gives the gifts and tells Rebekah's brother Laban and father Betheul all that had happened, they acknowledge that God had obviously sent him, Abraham's servant is given a place for him and his camels to stay the night, and after that then he brings Rebekah back to Abraham and Issac.
So in this case, Issac got a wife without having to do much at all, he did not have to go out of his way to get her, I think this is a wonderful true scenario.
You can read it all in Genesis chapter 24.
Of course the next mention of how a man of God found his wife in the Bible is Jacob, youngest son of Issac, of course we read before that Esau wandered off somewhere and found a wife. But Jacob is the next one the Bible gives quite a bit of detail about, now Jacob, he had some troubles, we however should remember that Jacob was not perfect he had deceived Issac to steal Esau's blessing, in saying that anyway, here is a summary.
Again Jacob is instructed by Issac his father not to marry any Canaanite women, Issac said to Jacob to go marry one of Laban's daughters, so Issac sent Jacob away to Paddan-Aram to Laban and said a blessing that he would have many children, on the way he has a dream (not going to go into detail here, because this is not what this topic is about, but you can read it in the context)
And then what happens? Jacob sees a well in the distance. Jacob then goes and askes some shepherds about Laban, and then one of Laban's daughter's named Rachel comes walking out with the flock of sheep, Jacob removes the stone from the well and waters the flock of sheep, he then kisses Rachel and chats to Laban (Rachel's father) about wages, and Laban did not want Jacob working for free, so Jacob says he will work to marry Rachel his daughter, he works for 7 years, Laban deceived him though and gave Leah his oldest daughter first, then Jacob had to agree to work for another 7 years to marry Rachel, and he agreed and gets Rachel, the woman he desired to have as a wife.
This was a very different path to how Issac got his wife, Jacob had to work long and hard to get Rachel.
You can read about it all in Genesis chapter 28 - 29 verse 30
The next one also at a well.
Moses!! After his early life serving Pharaoh, he gets into a bit of trouble, he then has to flee from Pharoah, Moses flees to a place called Midian, he then sits down at a well. There was a Midian priest who had 7 daughters, his 7 daughters came out to get some water for the flock, then the shepherds came and drove them away but then Moses stood up and helped them water their flock.
So the daughters explained what had happened and how Moses had saved them from the hand of the shepherds and watered the flock, their father Reuel the Midian Priest, then invited Moses into his house to eat, it then says "Moses was content to live with the man, and he gave Zipporah his daughter to Moses"
You can read it in Exodus 2:11-21
Guys I understand what you do say about getting a job and offering security to my future wife, I have heard these exact things from my parents and thus you don't need to repeat them all the time. I will tell you all something.
Yes.
Yes, because everybody in the planet are godly innocent beautiful talented sweet princes & princesses from a fairy tale. This is one of the most laughable & ridiculous posts I have read, really. At certain points you sound like a little 4yo girl. Just asking you something by the way, which one "beauty" and "great personal attribute" would you see in a rude, tough, drug addicted, heavily tattooed hip hop gangster that spends his life smoking weed everyday with his recently released mates, showing off at the town with the 12th lamborghini or ferrari he stole in the gas station & drugging everyone's girlfriends to rape and add them to his prostitute club? Which one "beauty" and "great personal attribute" would you see in a promiscuous, feminist, gold-digging blue-haired punk that proudly sleeps with 10 different men every week, deceives & steals every man's pocket in seconds, takes 12 pills a day & buys and worships her indefinite amount of expensive cosmetics, perfumes & ungodly clothes with the stolen money? Which one "beauty" and "great personal attribute" would you see in a heavy metal satanist drunkard that sprays devilish & blasphemous things at churches' walls, breaks their windows, vandalizes their statues & objects & engage in occult rituals featuring blood & murder? And would you be their humble servants? Would you be the humble obedient servant of a bully who is commiting adultery with your wife and know it? Would you be the humble obedient servant of a psycho who has murdered your child? Would you be the humble obedient servant of a burglar who has stole all of your finances & items? Would you be the humble obedient servant of an usurper who has occupied your property? Would you be the humble obedient servant of somebody who wants you to sin and drift away from God?It seems that you have a good handle on what needs to be done. It seems that you have to work on your relationships with other people, of both genders.
Protective parents do not necessarily help their children to develop well rounded relationship skills. They are probably trying to protect you from the pain that they experienced when they were growing up because of their own relationship skills. It is okay to make mistakes, but it is not okay not to learn from the mistakes that we all make in developing those skills. We need to be able to work out what works and what does not work in establishing and maintaining relationships.
My sense is that you are looking for acceptance from your peers, but the peer pressures that others experience may mean that they cannot openly express what they are truly feeling or begin to develop their own relational skills, because of their own need for acceptance from and within the people that they socialise with.
Developing relationships with people, even within church circles is a slow process and it is best not to try and force a relationship onto others.
The people around you can sense whether or not you are accepting of their respective flaws and if they sense that you are not accepting them for who they are, then they will shun you as if you have the plague. You may be surprised how many of the people you are acquainted with are having the same sorts of problems in their relationships with others as you are. We really do drive people away from us because of other people's perceived conclusions as to who we are because of the sound bytes that we allow them to see or hear about us. Unfortunately, people never go to the source to discover the hidden beauty within us, but rather they seek out who you are from others.
If you have told one girl that she is a "slut" in your opinion, then all of the girls that she rubs shoulders with will get the same message that she received from you, that they are "sluts" and a such they will avoid you.
Instead, if you begin to see the beauty and the great personal attributes that others have, then you will never be without friends as they will want to have you as their friend. As you begin to see the great qualities in others, they too will begin to see your great qualities and the group of people you will mix with will quickly grow.
The only person that you can fix and change is yourself. Paul in his letters to the various churches often encouraged the people to begin renewing their minds in the way of the Lord and to then put on the refurbished personhood, that God intended them to be from the beginning of time.
What does this mean? We have to stop judging others. We have to be prepared to be hurt by others without retaliating against them. We need to be kind to others. We need to be encouraging others in do what is right to do. To encourage them to have the courage to become the person that they should aspire too. We need to remove the self-centredness within our own lives where we lord it over others and establish the humble servant heart that Christ would want us to have so that we can be a blessing to all those we may rub shoulders with even for just a fleeting moment.
Sadly, change is the one thing that many people are uncomfortable with, but it is the one thing that Christ requires of us.
Shalom
I just said I was a virgin. What's even bad with waiting until marriage?you need to grow up and talk to the Lord about all this …you sound very legalistic and religious …religious v spiritual .
Spiritual people HEAR from God and are led by the Holy Spirit …
You hav3 had the stage here for 55 posts …you post about ‘your needs ‘ …as I said before, you are nowhere ready to have a family.
I beg you to stop being so religious , and get before the Holy Sprit . He will teach you what HE WANTS you to do.
this thread has totally been about what YOU want God to do for you.
He can’t use you while you are so centred on yourself .
How is the job search coming along?
I just said I was a virgin. What's even bad with waiting until marriage?
Yes, because everybody in the planet are godly innocent beautiful talented sweet princes & princesses from a fairy tale. This is one of the most laughable & ridiculous posts I have read, really. At certain points you sound like a little 4yo girl. Just asking you something by the way, which one "beauty" and "great personal attribute" would you see in a rude, tough, drug addicted, heavily tattooed hip hop gangster that spends his life smoking weed everyday with his recently released mates, showing off at the town with the 12th lamborghini or ferrari he stole in the gas station & drugging everyone's girlfriends to rape and add them to his prostitute club? Which one "beauty" and "great personal attribute" would you see in a promiscuous, feminist, gold-digging blue-haired punk that proudly sleeps with 10 different men every week, deceives & steals every man's pocket in seconds, takes 12 pills a day & buys and worships her indefinite amount of expensive cosmetics, perfumes & ungodly clothes with the stolen money? Which one "beauty" and "great personal attribute" would you see in a heavy metal satanist drunkard that sprays devilish & blasphemous things at churches' walls, breaks their windows, vandalizes their statues & objects & engage in occult rituals featuring blood & murder? And would you be their humble servants? Would you be the humble obedient servant of a bully who is commiting adultery with your wife and know it? Would you be the humble obedient servant of a psycho who has murdered your child? Would you be the humble obedient servant of a burglar who has stole all of your finances & items? Would you be the humble obedient servant of an usurper who has occupied your property? Would you be the humble obedient servant of somebody who wants you to sin and drift away from God?
It's absolutely shocking how the usurper heretic pagan cucks aspire to destroy Christianity by turning it into some kind of sinner worship. They are evil but unintelligent, they will tell you that you should turn the other cheek & love your enemy but they will not spell a word of the cleansing of the Temple to you (Matthew 21:12-17, Mark 11:15-19, Luke 19:45-48, John 2:13-16). Likewise, they miss out that they are misinterpreting what Jesus said. Jesus told people in Matthew 5:44 to pray for their enemies so that these repented & turned to God, not for their satisfaction or wellbeing like the cucks love to tell you. When Jesus told in Matthew 5:39 to turn the other cheek, he was not commanding people to be indifferent to the enemy, but to defy him (Luke 22:36). In the ancient world, the right hand was associated with authority & dominance, while the left hand was considered unclean. Thus, turning the left cheek was a way of challenging the adversary and demanding equality. So please do not believe false teachings & follow God, not the Antichrists who want to subvert the Scriptures in order to glorify the Devil (2 Corinthians 11:13).