Do you admit that man cannot save himself from the power of death?
If you do, why is it then that with regards the salvation of God, you seem to say that you are saved because you did something?
As I was telling you, the gospel is about what God had done to save you and me.
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Do you admit that man cannot save himself from the power of death?
Jesus finished the work, agreed? You and I couldn't nor could do it...
Jesus is the one that died, was buried and arose and lives forever......not us, agreed?
Alone, He is our Deliverer[salvation]noun
Yet
Unless you believe you are not delivered by Him.....do you agree?
For it is impossible to please God without faith
the one that comes to Him must believe that He is and is a rewarder to them that diligently seek Him.
Do you believe belief is not neccessary?
If not read EPHESIANS 1:13
It was after that, "ye believed, ye were sealed"
Meaning they trusted "a whom"
Believe and trust are things we do? Do you agree?....Even if God Gave us the abilty... we still must exercise it.....agreed?
You get stuck because of the passage
EPHESIANS 2:8 , how you view it through Osas and how you see grace....but you see we are not saved through anything we have done, we are saved through what Christ has done when we believed..and continue to believe, rely on, put confidence in....
When it is speaking of works, It means by direct effort by our natural abilities in the flesh to earn.
The first saved..Eph 2:5....is being brought from death to life....For God is not the God of the dead but the living....those who were born from above were made alive WITH Christ,
were given the promised Spirit.
So He saved them from the Penalty of Sin..eternal seperation....agreed?
But He saved those from the penalty of sin so they can live by His life. [V7]
Let me say that another way He saved us from the Penalty of Sin so we can be saved by His life.
Your question might be How are we saved by His life. Remember the passages, about the life giving Spirit, we have a new nature....and no longer enslaved to the old nature
Recall the passage in Romans, who shall save(deliver) us from this body of death?
Answer
Jesus our
Lord...when we rely (believe,trust, put confidence in) on Him as Lord. When we are led by the Spirit ..we renew our minds with right thoughts, attitudes, and beliefs. RECALL the passage I will give them a new heart and put my Spirit within them so that they will be careful to obey my statutes....Another words we are becoming new...our character is changing....so when your character changes you naturally do what is in your heart.
Therefore reliance on Christ is how we become like Him.
That is the grace of God that bringeth Salvation...that teaches us we should live soberly , righteous and Godly In this present world. I think that is in Titus.
Those who are born from above....is who I am speaking about.
Paul declares in Romans 5:10, “For if when
we were enemies,
we were reconciled to God through
the death of
His Son,
much more having been reconciled,
we shall be
saved by His life.”
So remember we Have His Spirit now....agreed?
We do something
because it is what we do with Christ.....remember in EPHESIANS 2 when we were quickened together "with" Christ.
But it is not to earn what has already been given to save us....
It is How we have a relationship...or learn to relate to the Father by a relationship with the son.
That is the Life that is in His Son
Recall the passage, I give to them eternal life and this life is in the son
Recall the only definition That I know of, of the meaning of Eternal life-which is to "know"the only true God and Jesus Christ who He has sent.
The word "know" means intimately...like Adam knew Eve
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Eternal Life is through Jesus....
This is hard to write on my phone....I hope it answered your questions