The Last Trumpet

[Truth7t7]

What do you mean by “mortal?”

Mortal = Humans That Are Born, Live, And Die Physical Death

 

[jessiblue]

Do you believe a mortal Millennial Kingdom on this earth takes place "After" the 7th Trump and final judgement as seen below?

Yes, mortal souls (in spiritual bodies)—those who did not overcome, those who did not go through the first resurrection.

Rev. 20
4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

[5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

In verse 4, "and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years"
So if you are one of God's elect then you will be part of the first resurrection at His coming, and you will reign with Jesus Christ for the entire 1000 years during the Millennium.

If you are not part of the first resurrection then you are part of "the remainder" who are called "the dead", and you must wait until the end of the Millennium. You will then be tested a short season by Satan who will be released temporarily, and then you will be judged at the Great White Throne Judgment when the books are opened (vs. 12). Only then can you be part of the Second Resurrection and receive eternal life. Until then, you are called "dead" because you are still subject to the second death, which is the destruction of your soul in the lake of fire (vs. 14).

jb

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes, mortal souls (in spiritual bodies)—those who did not overcome, those who did not go through the first resurrection.

Rev. 20
4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

[5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

In verse 4, "and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years"
So if you are one of God's elect then you will be part of the first resurrection at His coming, and you will reign with Jesus Christ for the entire 1000 years during the Millennium.

If you are not part of the first resurrection then you are part of "the remainder" who are called "the dead", and you must wait until the end of the Millennium. You will then be tested a short season by Satan who will be released temporarily, and then you will be judged at the Great White Throne Judgment when the books are opened (vs. 12). Only then can you be part of the Second Resurrection and receive eternal life. Until then, you are called "dead" because you are still subject to the second death, which is the destruction of your soul in the lake of fire (vs. 14).

jb

There is one time of resurrection for all, this takes place on the (Last Day) at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ

There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second) death resurrection has no power.

1.) (First) Resurrection To Life
2.) (Second) Resurrection To Damnation, The Second Death

Revelation 20:6KJV
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The (Last Day) Judgement

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes, mortal souls (in spiritual bodies)—those who did not overcome, those who did not go through the first resurrection.

Rev. 20
4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

[5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

In verse 4, "and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years"
So if you are one of God's elect then you will be part of the first resurrection at His coming, and you will reign with Jesus Christ for the entire 1000 years during the Millennium.

If you are not part of the first resurrection then you are part of "the remainder" who are called "the dead", and you must wait until the end of the Millennium. You will then be tested a short season by Satan who will be released temporarily, and then you will be judged at the Great White Throne Judgment when the books are opened (vs. 12). Only then can you be part of the Second Resurrection and receive eternal life. Until then, you are called "dead" because you are still subject to the second death, which is the destruction of your soul in the lake of fire (vs. 14).

jb

As scripture clearly teaches below in 1 Corinthinas 15:23-24 , when Jesus Christ returns then comes (The End)

Many disregard (Then Cometh The End) as they desire to see a mortal Millennial Kingdom on earth, after the coming of Jesus Christ

afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many falsely claim

(Then Cometh The End)

(Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes, mortal souls (in spiritual bodies)—those who did not overcome, those who did not go through the first resurrection.

Rev. 20
4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

[5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

In verse 4, "and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years"
So if you are one of God's elect then you will be part of the first resurrection at His coming, and you will reign with Jesus Christ for the entire 1000 years during the Millennium.

If you are not part of the first resurrection then you are part of "the remainder" who are called "the dead", and you must wait until the end of the Millennium. You will then be tested a short season by Satan who will be released temporarily, and then you will be judged at the Great White Throne Judgment when the books are opened (vs. 12). Only then can you be part of the Second Resurrection and receive eternal life. Until then, you are called "dead" because you are still subject to the second death, which is the destruction of your soul in the lake of fire (vs. 14).

jb

Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation?

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ?

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[Zao is life]

"Blow the trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; For the day of the LORD is coming, For it is at hand:" Joel 2:1
The sound of the Shofar is heard during these Holy days starting with Rosh Hashanah and ending with Yom Kippur. The Last Trumpet is blown at the end of the day on Yom Kippur, which would be Sept. 16 before 7:34 PM Jerusalem time.
This has happened every year for thousands of years. Is this year any different? I doubt it. But the possibility is there. Some believe that THE Last Trumpet (1 Cor. 15:52; 1 Thes. 4:16) is the final one in a series during these feasts. And since as it does occur, destruction comes upon Israel and those nations who come against Israel, it seems relative. But scripture tells us it is a "trumpet of God".
Is it a Shofar, made of a ram's horn and blown by a human that triggers God's judgment or a trumpet blown by an angel in heaven made by God? I think it is blown by an angel ... but it may accompany those sounds of the Shofar during this time. ???
It is a time of repentance, reflection, fasting and prayer. The Jews prepared themselves for the Day of Atonement and Judgment.

If it happened next week, are you all prepared?

Good for you to ask us (including me) if I am ready, but as for the rest..

(My opinion):

Jesus was crucified at the appointed time. He rose from the dead at the appointed time. He fulfilled the Day of Atonement, which comes 10 days after the Feast of Trumpets, when He entered the Most Holy Place in heaven with His own blood . He fulfilled the Feast of Tabernacles when He became Tabernacled among us (which is probably when He was born, because He was not born in December).

And as far as the Feast of Trumpets is concerned, when Jesus was about to be crucified He said,

John 12:31-32
"Now is the judgement of this world. Now shall the prince of this world be cast out. And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw all to Myself."

Revelation 12:9-11
"And the great dragon was cast out, the old serpent called Devil, and Satan, who deceives the whole world. He was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a great voice saying in Heaven,

Now has come the salvation and power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of His Christ. For the accuser of our brothers is cast down, who accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony. And they did not love their soul to the death."

John 3:17
"For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. He who believes on Him is not condemned, but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God."

Salvation ..

Hebrews 11:7
"By faith Noah, having been warned by God of things not yet seen, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith."

120 years before the flood, God judged the world, and the world was found guilty:

Genesis 6:5-7
"And the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the LORD repented that He had made man on the earth, and He was angry to His heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created, from the face of the earth, both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air. For I repent that I have made them."

Genesis 6:13-14a
"And God said to Noah, The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them. And, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. Make an ark of Cyprus timbers. You shall make rooms in the ark..."

Genesis 6:3
"And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, in his erring; he is flesh. Yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years."

The world, in the days of Noah, was not judged on the day the floods came. The flood was just the carrying out of the decreed sentence which had already been passed when the world was judged 120 years earlier. God had already judged the world, and the world had already been found guilty. The sentence had been decreed, but not carried out yet. There was still a chance to get into the ark, and many were no doubt called into the ark, but few (8 souls) were chosen.

The ark is a picture of Christ.

Jesus has fulfilled all the appointed times. What comes next is the carrying out of the decreed sentence:

John 3:17
"For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. He who believes on Him is not condemned, but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God."

The sentence will be carried out at the time of the Great White Throne. In-between, God's wrath will come upon the world, and whenever God's wrath has come upon a nation or nations, it has been a judgment. Those who experience God's wrath, always experience it as a time of great tribulation.

But it's not "The Judgment" because the Judgment has already come. The Feast of Trumpets has already been fulfilled by Christ.

Hebrews 1:1-2
"God, who at many times and in many ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds."

So if you're looking to the Feast of Trumpets, you're 2,000 years late.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

There is no resurrection of anyone before Jesus Returns and even then, it is only the GT martyrs. Revelation 20:4

That is a vision, one of many of peiplrs in heaven. In particular these ones have been decapitated. If that was the only cause of death, numbers would not be uncountable. Do you think hundreds of millions will be decapitated? I do believe this method is a signature of Islamic terrorism that will be even more proununced during the GT. However, the catastrophic events such as earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, famine, pestilence, wars, and fire kills many. We also have the resurrection at His coming that to me can be seen in several scriptures:
"After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."Rev. 7:9-14
This I believe is the same event, just from a different vantage point:
"Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying:
“We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty,
The One who is and who was and who is to come,
Because You have taken Your great power and reigned.
The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come,
And the time of the dead, that they should be judged,
And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints,
And those who fear Your name, small and great,
And should destroy those who destroy the earth.”
Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail."
Rev. 11:15-19

The faithful Christians will be taken to a place of safety for the final 1260 days. Revelation 12:14

You are mistaken! This passage addresses those new converts in Israel, who have just seen the Lord and believed, but after the rapture.
(See Rom. 11) They are taken to a safe place, (maybe Petra) outside Jerusalem. Much of the destruction from wars is in Israel with many nations attacking her so they flee into the wilderness. That 1/3 of the planet is literally on fire.

We will all experience the Lord's Day of fiery wrath; the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster. Luke 21:34-35

I don't think so, great tribulation, Yes, the the worst part of it, His wrath, No. We will suffer that.
The Lord's wrath is in the Seven Bowls and we are taken out just before they are released. They are severe and at one point when men are scorched by the sun, no one repents, they curse God:
"They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him." Rev. 16:9

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

He fulfilled the Feast of Tabernacles

I don't think so. It has been said said, Jesus fulfilled 300 prophecies during His during His First Coming and had about 300 more to fulfull during His Second Coming and thereafter, the Millennial Kingdom ..
to the end of time.
The Feast of Tabernacles will be celebrated during the Millennial Kingdom. Why? Be sure after Israel suffers desolation during the Great Tribulation and the entire world as well, the survivors who will repopulate the earth will initially have to dwell in tents, since all other buildings are destroyed (at least in Israel).

Now is the judgement of this world. Now shall the prince of this world be cast out. And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw all to Myself."

Was not He talking about Himself, His death, that he would be cast out of the world and be lifted up? He was/is the Prince of Peace, who draws all men to Himself.

But it's not "The Judgment" because the Judgment has already come. The Feast of Trumpets has already been fulfilled by Christ.

There are Seven Trumpets that will be remembered that have not been blown yet.

So if you're looking to the Feast of Trumpets, you're 2,000 years late.

I am not looking for the Feast of Trumpets, it is being celebrated right now. I just brought attention to it because there are some who attribute the "last trumpet" as one of the last one of a series blown during this time, specifically on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. I said it could work in conjunction with the shofar blown; but the trumpet in Revelation 11:15 - I believe is blown by an angel.

 

[Zao is life]

Was not He talking about Himself, His death, that he would be cast out of the world and be lifted up? He was/is the Prince of Peace, who draws all men to Himself.

Then He would not have said, "the judgment of this world ((kósmos). Jesus was taking the sins of the world and the judgment of God upon Himself, and just as the flood waters came upon the ark but the ark was lifted up, out of the destruction, so Jesus took the judgment and was lifted up from hades.

God's wrath has been poured out upon people and nations over the course of human history, but it has not necessarily been poured out upon the whole world in each case (to shorten the post I'm not going to give examples).

But God's wrath being poured out upon a people is always a judgement, since it is always produced by God’s burning anger (thymós in the Greek; chârôn in the Hebrew), but it’s not always a final judgement.

A final judgement came upon Babylon when the wrath of God came upon the city, but a final judgment did not come upon Jerusalem when the wrath of God came upon the city in the day Jerusalem was destroyed by the the armies of Babylon.

With regard to final judgement, the first time in the Bible that we read about humanity being finally judged is in the account of the flood in Genesis, when only the elect (Noah and his family) were saved. The last time we read about humanity being finally judged is in the Revelation, where we read about fire coming down from heaven and destroying the armies of the rebellious nations who had surrounded the camp of the saints (Revelation 20:9). @Ronald David Bruno But the decreed sentence mentioned by Jesus will only be carried out at the Great White Throne.

The next time we read about God's wrath coming upon the nations is in the seven last plagues or “bowls of God's wrath”, and it's noteworthy that only the seventh bowl uses the word orgḗ.

 

[Truth7t7]

Do you think hundreds of millions will be decapitated? I do believe this method is a signature of Islamic terrorism that will be even more proununced during the GT. However, the catastrophic events such as earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, famine, pestilence, wars, and fire kills many. We also have the resurrection at His coming that to me can be seen in several scriptures:
"After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."Rev. 7:9-14
This I believe is the same event, just from a different vantage point:
"Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying:
“We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty,
The One who is and who was and who is to come,
Because You have taken Your great power and reigned.
The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come,
And the time of the dead, that they should be judged,
And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints,
And those who fear Your name, small and great,
And should destroy those who destroy the earth.”
Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail."
Rev. 11:15-19


You are mistaken! This passage addresses those new converts in Israel, who have just seen the Lord and believed, but after the rapture.
(See Rom. 11) They are taken to a safe place, (maybe Petra) outside Jerusalem. Much of the destruction from wars is in Israel with many nations attacking her so they flee into the wilderness. That 1/3 of the planet is literally on fire.


I don't think so, great tribulation, Yes, the the worst part of it, His wrath, No. We will suffer that.
The Lord's wrath is in the Seven Bowls and we are taken out just before they are released. They are severe and at one point when men are scorched by the sun, no one repents, they curse God:
"They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him." Rev. 16:9

Sci-Fi Left Behind Tim La Haye, Episode 666

A Thief In The Night, Antichrist Death Squads And Guillotines, Run!

Dispensationalism's Propaganda

 

[Truth7t7]

Be sure after Israel suffers desolation during the Great Tribulation and the entire world as well, the survivors who will repopulate the earth will initially have to dwell in tents, since alk other buildings are destroyed (at least in Israel).

Was not He talking about Himself, His death, that he would be cast out of the world and be lifted up? He was/is the Prince of Peace, who draws all men to Himself.



There are Seven Trumpets that will be remembered that have not been blown yet.

I am not looking for the Feast of Trumpets, it is being celebrated right now. I just brought attention to it because there are some who attribute the "last trumpet" as one of the last one of a series blown during this time, specifically on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. I said it could work in conjunction with the shofar blown; but the trumpet in Revelation 11:15 - I believe is blown by an angel.

Those in Israel will be living in tents, where is that in scripture?

 

[teamventure]

Sci-Fi Left Behind Tim La Haye, Episode 666

A Thief In The Night, Antichrist Death Squads And Guillotines, Run!

Dispensationalism's Propaganda

Wait, are you saying that mass executions are fiction?
Revelation tells all about it not just Tim La Haye

 

[Truth7t7]

Wait, are you saying that mass executions are fiction?
Revelation tells all about it not just Tim La Haye

Hundreds of millions decapitated, Sci-Fi

The tribulation will be controlled by the (Two Witness) of Revelation 11, bringing all plagues upon the wicked world

 

[jessiblue]

Hundreds of millions decapitated, Sci-Fi

The tribulation will be controlled by the (Two Witness) of Revelation 11, bringing all plagues upon the wicked world

I understand what you’re saying here, but it’s not actually true.

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Those days of the tribulation are controlled by God. It is God that shortens the time and reign of the Antichrist. The two witnesses will be given supernatural abilities by God to allow them to stand and witness for God's people.

jb

 

[teamventure]

Hundreds of millions decapitated, Sci-Fi

How then do you explain Rev 20:4 & 6:9?

 

[Truth7t7]

How then do you explain Rev 20:4 & 6:9?

It dosent state (Hundreds Of Millions)

 

[teamventure]

It dosent state (Hundreds Of Millions)

It states a great multitude no one can number. How do you deal with that?

 

[Truth7t7]

It states a great multitude no one can number. How do you deal with that?

Where does it state in scripture you referenced (Hunfreds Of Millions) or (Great Multitude)?

Revelation 6:9KJV
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

Revelation 20:4KJV
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

 

[Brakelite]

I think we would all agree that the OT sanctuary feast days and annual Sabbaths were a type of the coming gospel message of the NT. Even the sanctuary itself we are told was a copy of the heavenly, and the priesthood a copy of the ministry of Christ. We recognize from scripture that those feast days were in a particular order, 3 in the fall and 3 in spring, the fall being early in the Jewish religious year, and the spring in the latter part of the year, culminating in the feast of tabernacles. Our task is to identify the feasts with the correct anti typical fulfilments in the church age... If indeed they have yet been fulfilled.

• Scripture assists is with the early ones. Passover... Calvary. The offering of the sacrificial Lamb that takes away the sins of the world.
• The offering of the wave sheaf which would have been completed in the first week after the resurrection when Christ ascended to His Father and presented Himself in the heavenly sanctuary.
• Pentecost, precisely 40 days later.

Those were the early feasts. Then came the church age. We must look to the latter days... Our own time... For the fulfillment of the final feasts, the first one being the feast of trumpets. To understand the spiritual significance of that feast, we need to study what the feast signified to Israel. What was it for? What was it's purpose? That it centered on Christ there can be no doubt, but how? I believe that because it was late in the year, then it must of necessity be closely related to the second coming, it must be related to the ministry of Christ now as high Priest in the heavenly sanctuary, and it must be related to the Day of Atonement which followed soon after.

KJV Leviticus 23:24, 27
24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.

The affliction of souls, a time of preparation, and an indication that the work of salvation is still yet to be concluded by our Savior, ought to occupy our thoughts.

 

[Brakelite]

I think we would all agree that the OT sanctuary feast days and annual Sabbaths were a type of the coming gospel message of the NT. Even the sanctuary itself we are told was a copy of the heavenly, and the priesthood a copy of the ministry of Christ. We recognize from scripture that those feast days were in a particular order, 3 in the fall and 3 in spring, the fall being early in the Jewish religious year, and the spring in the latter part of the year, culminating in the feast of tabernacles. Our task is to identify the feasts with the correct anti typical fulfilments in the church age... If indeed they have yet been fulfilled.

• Scripture assists is with the early ones. Passover... Calvary. The offering of the sacrificial Lamb that takes away the sins of the world.
• The offering of the wave sheaf which would have been completed in the first week after the resurrection when Christ ascended to His Father and presented Himself in the heavenly sanctuary.
• Pentecost, precisely 40 days later.

Those were the early feasts. Then came the church age. We must look to the latter days... Our own time... For the fulfillment of the final feasts, the first one being the feast of trumpets. To understand the spiritual significance of that feast, we need to study what the feast signified to Israel. What was it for? What was it's purpose? That it centered on Christ there can be no doubt, but how? I believe that because it was late in the year, then it must of necessity be closely related to the second coming, it must be related to the ministry of Christ now as high Priest in the heavenly sanctuary, and it must be related to the Day of Atonement which followed soon after.

KJV Leviticus 23:24, 27
24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.

The affliction of souls, a time of preparation, and an indication that the work of salvation is still yet to be concluded by our Savior, ought to occupy our thoughts.

And one more vital observation, all the above have direct implications regarding the second coming, the millennium, judgement and execution of the sentence, the cleansing of the sanctuary (see Leviticus 16), the binding of Satan, and his later loosing. All very interesting and absorbing topics which could see this thread taking off into innumerable directions, most of which judging by all other eschatological threads on the forum, will comprise of endless theories totally unrelated to the actual subject matter.