The heavens is our atmosphere and outer space.
Heaven is God's spiritual place. It could be anywhere and everywhere.
Thank you.
I was moreso asking details of the Heaven(s).
Offering MORE indepth (yet brief, as other Scriptures reveal MORE)
You brought up your Disbelief in the RAPTURE
(An all encomassing word, meaning the SAVED Raised UP off the Face of the During the Last Tribulation From Heaven, to Destroy the Earth)
* Regarding HEAVEN(S)
* Regarding First Tribulation/Wrath of God.
* Regarding WHO was Saved & How.
* Regarding Last Tribulation/Wrath from Heaven.
* Regarding WHO shall be Saved Before the Tribulation Begins & How & Why
(Ie RAPTURE).
* Others ARE Saved during the Tribulation, but a completely different Study.
Earth - mans estate
1) Lower Heavens - ...air, clouds, atmosphere
2) Middle Heavens - ...stars, angels estate
3) Highest Heavens -...Gods estate, pure light
No man has gone UP to Heaven, but he who came Down from Heaven...
* Which Heaven did man, called Jesus, come DOWN FROM?
* Highest Heaven.
* How do we know?
* Scripture says, Heaven IS Gods Throne.
* God is present everywhere. 1 Kings 8:27
* Jesus said, His Kingdom is not OF this world.
* Jesus said, He came forth out from God.
* Scripture says, Jesus passed, THROUGH the Heavens. Heb 4:14
* Jesus returned to High Heaven. Heb 8:1
OT - SAVING of a man.
...Obedience to the Law
...Disobedience to any portion of the Law, was a SIN.
...Commission of SIN had negative consequences.
...Forgiveness of SIN, required BLOOD sacrifice.
...BLOOD sacrifices, IN the Temple, IN Jerusalem, Pure, Undefiled Animal (having not engaged sexually).
...Sacrifices & Forgiveness Required repeating yearly.
....
Men WHO: Believed; Followed the Law; (Positive Law, of what the Law required...
Negative Law, Negative Consequences punishments, Yearly sacrifices, Yearly Forgiveness..........MEANT WHAT EXACTLY???
...IT MEANT...THE LORD was
WITH THAT man.
...IT MEANT...THAT man was
WITH the LORD.
AND?
WHAT "IF"...the man, "DID NOT follow the LAW"...??? DO what the LAW SAID "TO DO"?
(Positive LAW...do as the LAW SAID...
(Negative LAW (curse/penal)....as the LAW SAID) ????
THE LORD, would NOT BE "WITH" that man.
THAT man, would NOT BE "WITH" the LORD.
OT Scripture gives US multiple examples...
OF: the LORD, "WITH and WITHOUT" men...and men "WITH and WITHOUT", the LORD....(and WHY).
WHAT HAPPENED to MEN...WHO were "WITH" the LORD...and CONTINUED, "WITH" the LORD?
THEY..."BECAME" SAVED.
HOW....WHY ...WHEN ?
HOW....By Gods POWER
WHY.....BECAUSE THEY
"ENDURED" .
HOW...by their own effort, strength, power.
Endured TO WHEN...the END of their natural life.
SAVED WHEN...the END of their natural life.
WHY...BECAUSE, they "ENDURED", remained, "WITH" the LORD.
NT Scripture -
* LAW FULFILLED.
* Positive LAW " & " Negative LAW (ie consequences)
ONLY APPLY...."IF" the LAW APPLIES "TO" the man, A People, A Nation.
* LAW FULFILLED...
BUT NOT DESTROYED
* MEANING WHAT?
* IN REGARD to a mans "FREEWILL", TO BELIEVE, Trust, Act, Choose, According TO the mans own WILL.
NT - Descendants of men ORGINALLY "GIVEN" the LAW...(Hebrews, Tribes, Jews)...
OFFERED...."A NEW Testament", A NEW Covenant".
@ Keraz - Continued...