Why do you feel it is so hard to be good?

[1stCenturyLady]

BE GOOD AND DO GOOD has become my slogan on this forum.
I feel like the Johnny Appleseed of be good.
Why has it come to this on this forum?.
Probably one of the most worth while discussion we could have.
I CONTEND THAT IT IS NOT THAT HARD TO BE GOOD!
I CONTEND THAT IT IS NOT THAT HARD TO LIVE A NEARLY SINLESS LIFE!
NOW PROVE ME WRONG!

The truth will set you free! Be honest.

You're not the only one, but so many believe so thoroughly in doctrines of demons they call us heretics to suggest that Jesus actually does take away our sin. They would rather misinterpret 1 John 1:8 and justify having their pet sins.

 

[Tong2020]

Tong2020 said: ↑
if you do not do a precept or commandment of the law of Moses, do you consider that you have sinned and is guilty of not keeping the law or breaking the law?

Yes, because that's what the Bible says...

"If you really fulfill the royal law stated in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,”c you are doing well. But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors." James 2:8-9​

Is it not that the Christian is no longer under the law? Why then would you be a law breaker? Why then would you be convicted by the law?

Tong
R4344

 

[Grailhunter]

You're not the only one, but so many believe so thoroughly in doctrines of demons they call us heretics to suggest that Jesus actually does take away our sin. They would rather misinterpret 1 John 1:8 and justify having their pet sins.

Christ died for our sins and He forgives sins....most will agree on that

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Is it not that the Christian is no longer under the law? Why then would you be a law breaker? Why then would you be convicted by the law?

Tong
R4344

Just because the Christian who has sinned does not go to hell for his sin doesn't mean he's not guilty of not following one of God's commands.

"If you really fulfill the royal law stated in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,”c you are doing well. But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors." James 2:8-9
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For the Christian, not being under the law means not being eternally condemned for his sin....unless he's sinning willfully in unbelief, of course.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

let me try to explain.....” ACTING” on a Promise Of God has NOTHING to do with doing anything “ Good”.

Paul begs to differ with you...

"Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother” (which is the first commandment with a promise), “that it may go well with you and that you may have a long life on the earth.” Ephesians 6:1-3
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This is a clear example of how a promise of God has everything to do with doing good.

 

[MatthewG]

What does it mean to feel as though you are good? When in reality none of us are good and if you are a believer in God who is good, have you realized the only good that comes from you is from God himself through you by the Holy Spirit/spirit of Christ?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

A Promise Of God CAN involve good stuff—— it just doesn’t HAVE to.....it's usually irrelevant.

I think what you are trying to say is God's promise to make you righteous (a.k.a, 'justified') is what has nothing to do with doing something good. Which is true. But the part that you are neglecting and leading people astray about is Paul says the faith that makes you righteous is the faith that works the obedience of love...

"6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value (towards justification). All that matters (towards justification) is faith, expressed through love." Galatians 5:6​

The faith that makes a person righteous, all by itself apart from works, will also work the law of love. If it does not, then it is not the faith that justifies all by itself. That is the point that you have removed from the gospel and lead people astray about. See, you can't have a faith that makes you righteous apart from works (Romans 4:6) that does not also justify you by what you do (James 2:24). Because, ultimately, if you do have that kind of faith (a faith that does not work), you don't really have the faith that justifies all by itself apart from works. Stop leaving that part out from the 'Nothing but the blood' gospel.

 

[Gospel Believer]

Paul begs to differ with you...

"Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother” (which is the first commandment with a promise), “that it may go well with you and that you may have a long life on the earth.” Ephesians 6:1-3
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This is a clear example of how a promise of God has everything to do with doing good.

As I PLAINLY stated.....some Promises do and some Promises don’t.....you might want to read that post again....maybe not.....I don’t really care.....those with reading comprehension will “ get it”....

 

[Ferris Bueller]

What does it mean to feel as though you are good?

What we feel is that we have done good. And for everyone who knows very clearly that they could not do good before this is a very good feeling!

 

[Ferris Bueller]

As I PLAINLY stated.....some Promises do and some Promises don’t.....you might want to read that post again....maybe not.....I don’t really care.....those with reading comprehension will “ get it”....

It has nothing to do with reading comprehension. I was responding to your post as I was reading it (your posts are too long). I see that you explained that at the end of your post. ↓↓↓

A Promise Of God CAN involve good stuff—— it just doesn’t HAVE to.....it's usually irrelevant.

 

[MatthewG]

What defines doing good ?

Love maybe perhaps? God is good; God is love.

Love = Good = 1 Corinthians 13?

 

[Gospel Believer]

I think what you are trying to say is God's promise to make you righteous (a.k.a, 'justified') is what has nothing to do with doing something good. Which is true. But the part that you are neglecting and leading people astray about is Paul says the faith that makes you righteous is the faith that works the obedience of love...

"6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value (towards justification). All that matters (towards justification) is faith, expressed through love." Galatians 5:6​

The faith that makes a person righteous, all by itself apart from works, will also work the law of love. If it does not, then it is not the faith that justifies all by itself. That is the point that you have removed from the gospel and lead people astray about. See, you can't have a faith that makes you righteous apart from works (Romans 4:6) that does not also justify you by what you do (James 2:24). Because, ultimately, if you do have that kind of faith (a faith that does not work), you don't really have the faith that justifies all by itself apart from works. Stop leaving that part out from the 'Nothing but the blood' gospel.

Wow....you sure have a talent for complicating the things that God has made simple....your post had more confusing “ gobbledygook” in it than I ever thought possible......

I cant untangle this mess of whatever itvis you are trying to say......maybe this will help.....nobody on this Forum has stressed the two commandments that Jesus left us with more fervency than myself....they are #1, Believe, and #2 LOVE——- how could I make it more clear.....I’ve even said that if you have the Faith to move mountains, if you don’t have Love within you, you have Nothing.....Oncd again, you reveal your ignorance and btw.....it really IS “ NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD” for Salvation....I can’t stress that enough , even though it sickens you to hear it......have you torn that song out of your hymnal yet? God is not real Big on hypocritical singing....

Blood Bought 1953

 

[Ferris Bueller]

It was simply a Condition That God laid out and you were given a chance to show God you had Faith.

Which is what James says regarding the life of the Christian, after they have done no work to be saved...

"Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds." James 2:18
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See, 'show me your faith without deeds' is your argument. 'I will show you my faith by my deeds' is my argument. Please stop leaving my part of the argument out of the 'nothing but the blood' gospel. Dead faith (faith that does nothing) is not the faith that saves:

"14What good is it, my brothers, if someone claims to have faith, but has no deeds? Can such faith save him?" James 2:14
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It's a rhetorical question. The answer is self evident. The answer is, 'no'. The faith that does not work is not the faith that justifies apart from works. As I showed you, even Paul says this...

"For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. All that matters is faith, expressed through love." Galatians 5:6
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Faith that works is the faith that saves apart from works. Stop leaving that part out of your 'nothing but the blood' gospel.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Wow....you sure have a talent for complicating the things that God has made simple....your post had more confusing “ gobbledygook” in it than I ever thought possible.

God as my witness, I knew you'd say this. This is above your spiritual pay grade. You're not ready for this truth, yet. I quoted all of this right out of the Bible. The fault is not in the plain scriptures I posted. It's in your ability to grasp spiritual truth.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

maybe this will help.....nobody on this Forum has stressed the two commandments that Jesus left us with more fervency than myself....they are #1, Believe, and #2 LOVE

Stop being deceitful.
What you said is you don't have to work the obedience of love to be saved when Jesus comes back. I just showed you you do. Not because that obedience earns you salvation, but because that's what genuine 'nothing but the blood' faith does. I showed you this right out of the pages of the Bible.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Oncd again, you reveal your ignorance and btw.....it really IS “ NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD” for Salvation....I can’t stress that enough , even though it sickens you to hear it......have you torn that song out of your hymnal yet? God is not real Big on hypocritical singing.

You're the one in the wrong here, bud. You're the one twisting my argument to mean works earn salvation. You are the dishonest one here.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

What defines doing good ?

Love maybe perhaps? God is good; God is love.

Love = Good = 1 Corinthians 13?

"If you really fulfill the royal law stated in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,”c you are doing well. " James 2:8​

 

[Gospel Believer]

It has nothing to do with reading comprehension. I was responding to your post as I was reading it (your posts are too long). I see that you explained that at the end of your post. ↓↓↓

( your posts are too Grace - Denying , too Legalistic and Erroneous .....the short ones AND the long ones) Perhaps “YOUR” posts would be lengthy if you had any True Bible Knowledge to share.....I try to pass along all of the great teaching I have received over the last 40 years.....one can really learn and pass on lots of valuable teachings when they are not too “ Stiff- Necked “ to learn from God - Inspired and God - Gifted Teachers Of The Word.....as I have pointed out many times in the past ....you are “ self” taught and, boy does it show.....probably explains why you don’t have a lot to say....I do.....and Newbies need to hear it...they don’t get the Truth from most of their “churches” and they sure as heck don’t get it from “ Lucky Repenters” like yourself.......if my posts are “ too long”— don’t read them! Problem solved......

 

[Gospel Believer]

You're the one in the wrong here, bud. You're the one twisting my argument to mean works earn salvation. You are the dishonest one here.

Whatever you say, “ Bud”..... lol......

 

[Ferris Bueller]

your posts are too Grace - Denying , too Legalistic and Erroneous .

No, what they are is 'over your spiritual head'. I'm not being snarky. You know I've been saying this all along, you simply do not have a grasp on this truth.