I'm a non-Christian, where can I post?

[Ferris Bueller]

His doctrine is very dangerous . It can influence some who are not built up in the LORD .

That, but it mostly will influence those who are not saved.
That's why I'm not getting overly excited.
His doctrines are so far out there that only the very weakest of Christians, and unsaved people are going to be potentially led astray by them.

He's got to understand that occult practices all by themselves shut 99.9% of real Christians down. I know he's proselytizing his religion, but he's got to know that his doctrines are simply not going to be attractive to real Christians.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Oh, before I forget. @Edward Gordon , tell our viewers what the silver cord is referred to in Ecclesiastes 12:6.

The point being, astral projection is an extremely dangerous thing to indulge.
I'm hoping he will explain what the silver cord is.

 

[ScottA]

The problem with this kind of thinking is it leaves a person to just pick and choose whatever scriptures they like.

I agree. Meanwhile I also agree with those parts that are right even if other things are incorrect.The rest may take some time.

But thanks for making the point. Certainly there is more.

 

[Edward Gordon]

There is the church of the world, and there is the true church. The church of the world failed you.
When I was born again I had eyes to see the real church. I didn't need to invent one. It already existed. It was just hidden in plain sight.
People need to be pointed to the real church. For me I found it in the local Full Gospel Church. There are other such churches where a person can meet the real church - God's real believers. The gates of Hades has not overcome the real church, and it never will. Don't invent a new church. Just plug into the real one that already exists.

No, no. Let's not confuse things: I'm talking about you, specifically. You are the World Church. Everything about your personality, everything about your theology. You are the Church that failed me. I'm not bitter, but don't you dare try this "no true Scotsman" routine with me.

And it should be no surprise that the passages about homosexuality are often the first ones to go. With the passages about the natural order of man over woman right behind those.

Man over woman... You know what's interesting is that when one focuses only on the Gospels, one begins to see that Jesus treated his male and female disciples pretty equally. And that's long before any kind of women's rights. I think men and women are equal. I really do. I think when the world ends, we're all going to die equally, so we should treat each other equally while we live.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

No, no. Let's not confuse things: I'm talking about you, specifically. You are the World Church. Everything about your personality, everything about your theology. You are the Church that failed me. I'm not bitter, but don't you dare try this "no true Scotsman" routine with me.

8 And now, dear brothers and sisters, one final thing. Fix your thoughts on what is true, and honorable, and right, and pure, and lovely, and admirable. Think about things that are excellent and worthy of praise.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Man over woman... You know what's interesting is that when one focuses only on the Gospels, one begins to see that Jesus treated his male and female disciples pretty equally. And that's long before any kind of women's rights. I think men and women are equal. I really do. I think when the world ends, we're all going to die equally, so we should treat each other equally while we live.

There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.

 

[GEN2REV]

8. Follow natural law as best you can.

Forgive me if it's already been asked, I'm catching back up.

What is natural law?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Forgive me if it's already been asked, I'm catching back up.

What is natural law?

I’d say it’s…the law scribed on your heart and conscience…

 

[GEN2REV]

Well, Jesus isn't a priest, he's the Son of God.

I'm pretty sure He is a priest.

Hebrews 5:6

We are to emulate Christ and Christ is a priest - among many other things.

Again, sorry if it's been addressed. This thread is kinda outta control.

 

[GEN2REV]

I’d say it’s…the law scribed on your heart and conscience…

But is that the Veridican definition?

Also, where did the name Veridican come from?

 

[GEN2REV]

I wondered what he meant by astral projection. My mind went to the apostle saying, I don’t know if I was in my body or out of it…

But OBE's (out of body experiences) are a New Age concept that is made possible by the power of the demonic. It is tantamount to witchcraft/sorcery.

The Apostles in the Bible being 'in the spirit' are having an experience that is made possible by the power of God.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

But is that the Veridican definition?

Also, where did the name Veridican come from?

I don’t know.
Also there, I don’t know.

I do know that I’ve been angry before too. I mean, when I first…met God? I told Jesus I would talk to Him but not to God because I was angry at God and thought He could have found a better way than by letting men kill Jesus.
So you can imagine my surprise later when I read John say Jesus IS God.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

But OBE's (out of body experiences) are a New Age concept that is made possible by the power of the demonic. It is tantamount to witchcraft/sorcery.

The Apostles in the Bible being 'in the spirit' are having an experience that is made possible by the power of God.

Tell that to Paul, I’m scared he doesn’t know!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I'm pretty sure He is a priest.

I am too! The priest offers the sacrifice to God for the sins of the people and that is what Jesus did for us.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

You are the Church that failed me.

Trust me, you don't know me, then.
I've been down your path. There is a real 'Christianity' that doesn't toss out most of the Bible. In fact, it doesn't toss out any of it. It looks like the only thing you got right so far is, generally speaking, true 'Christianity' is not found in the religious organizations in existence at this time. And there's lots of reasons why that is so. That would be a long discussion. The problem is that realization has taken you down the wrong path.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Sheep go down many wrong paths when they are distressed, including the sheep named Ferris!

 

[Ferris Bueller]

The Apostles in the Bible being 'in the spirit' are having an experience that is made possible by the power of God.

And, it's rare, and they are not instigating it at their own will.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Sheep go down many wrong paths when they are distressed, including the sheep named Ferris!

How do you know that?
I've never shared my life and experience with you.

I've made mistakes, but I've never deviated to the extreme that Edward is endorsing in this thread. You would probably be very surprised at what I call a mistake...like going back to a mainstream church in recent years. BIG mistake.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

How do you know that?
I've never shared my life and experience with you.

I've made mistakes, but I've never deviated to the extreme that Edward is endorsing in this thread. You would probably be very surprised at what I call a mistake...like going back to a mainstream church in recent years. BIG mistake.

Okay, I retract it. You never wandered wrong or drifted a bad direction in distress.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

I'm pretty sure He is a priest.

When you offer blood for the forgiveness of sin that makes you a High Priest - Matthew 26:28.

When you offer your own blood for the forgiveness of sin, that makes you THE High Priest of all the universe.