The 10 Commandments are FOREVER

[GEN2REV]

@GEN2REV

I recognize what Christ has done in having saved me by believing in Him & as Lord of the sabbath is why I am guiltless for profaning the sabbath.

For Sabbath Day Keepers to repent for denying how He is able to make us stand regardless of keeping the sabbath, they need to stop identifying themselves as Sabbath Day Keepers and quit saying they are observing the sabbath " as if like the Jews when they are not " and just say we honor the Lord on that day.

Otherwise, they better repent by worshipping the Lord on Sunday so other sabbath day keepers that are doing it for salvation & the Jews can see your faith in Jesus Christ that you are saved for simply coming to & believing in Jesus Christ.

I go by God's Word, and that alone, in choosing which day I observe; and nothing anywhere in scripture tells us to observe the Sunday.

I also love God enough to observe the day that is so special to Him, the day that He loves.
Genesis 2:2-3
Revelation 1:10
Isaiah 58:13
Isaiah 56:2
Isaiah 56:6

Why don't you love God enough to do that? To do what HE says to do?

Do you love man more than God?

 

[BarneyFife]

I recognize what Christ has done in having saved me by believing in Him & as Lord of the sabbath is why I am guiltless for profaning the sabbath.

Buh-lasphemy

You can disregard the Sabbath all you want, but claiming that Christ's blood covers your willful sin is gut-wrenching. You fail to realize that presenting this the way you do is doing exactly what you accuse (wrongly) Sabbath-keepers of doing.

 

[Christ4Me]

I go by God's Word and that alone in choosing which day I observe; and nothing anywhere in scripture tells us to observe the Sunday.

I also love God enough to observe the day that is so special to Him, the day the He loves.
Genesis 2:2-3
Revelation 1:10
Isaiah 58:13
Isaiah 56:2
Isaiah 56:6

Why don't you love God enough to do that? To do what HE says to do?

Do you love man more than God?

Thanks to Jesus Christ, I love Him more than the sabbath day to honor Him every day as I rely on Him as my Good Shepherd to follow Him.

Therefore I am free to go to the Bridegroom when He appears rather than.. "oh wait Lord. There is one more sabbath day to keep before I come."

 

[BarneyFife]

Being a Sabbath Day Keeper



By exalting yourself over other believers for being a Sabbath Day Keeper when you are really not? You had said you do not keep it perfectly.

Believers shall know other Christians by our faith in Jesus Christ; not for keeping the sabbath. Jews do that.

Absolute slander and calumny. But I'll take it, though. I don't care what lies you say about me. I'm not here to defend myself.

 

[Christ4Me]

Buh-lasphemy

You can disregard the Sabbath all you want, but claiming that Christ's blood covers your willful sin is gut-wrenching. You fail to realize that presenting this the way you do is doing exactly what you accuse (wrongly) Sabbath-keepers of doing.

But you are saying that my sin in profaning the sabbath remains whereas I believe Jesus at His words that I am guiltless because He is with me.

Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

 

[BarneyFife]

If the Sabbath is NOT ceremonial...
Then what is it and why?

All ten commandments are moral imperatives.

 

[Christ4Me]

Absolute slander and calumny. But I'll take it, though. I don't care what lies you say about me. I'm not here to defend myself.

From your post #288

"How utterly ridiculous! No one has ever kept the Sabbath perfectly throughout their whole life, except Jesus, regardless of your obsession with Matthew 12.'

Were you not admitting indirectly that you do not keep the sabbath day perfectly either but only Jesus did or did I misunderstood you here?

 

[GEN2REV]

Thanks to Jesus Christ, I love Him more than the sabbath day to honor Him every day as I rely on Him as my Good Shepherd to follow Him.

Yeah, see, you're following a different Christ when you observe the Sunday. Christ observed the Saturday Sabbath His entire life. You've been misled.
Luke 4:16

Therefore I am free to go to the Bridegroom when He appears rather than.. "oh wait Lord. There is one more sabbath day to keep before I come."

Hmmm, yeah, there's nothing in scripture that declares anything like that. Nothing to worry about in that regard.

 

[BarneyFife]

But you are saying that my sin in profaning the sabbath remains

I am saying no such thing. You are making that conclusion based on your feelings about what I have shown you from the Bible. This is not personal to me. Every man is a free moral agent and may choose to obey God or not. The 4th commandment is not ambiguous. It has been well nigh overthrown by Satan, but it remains soundly fortified within the Decalogue. For every 10 Sabbath-decriers you ask you will get 11 different answers as to why it no longer matters. I must admit, I've never seen anyone fixate on Matthew 12 the way you do, but the fact remains that the ten commandments are simple enough for a little child to understand, but the excuses for breaking them are not. The Sabbath is not alone in this regard. Christians literally break all ten commandments all the time. If I say that I keep the Sabbath, what kind of reason is that for someone else to feel compelled to do it? I have to get up everyday and confess my sins to God just like everybody else. There's nothing exalted about me.

 

[quietthinker]

Eve was the mother of all living.
By God's will.

except Adam of course

 

[BarneyFife]

From your post #288

"How utterly ridiculous! No one has ever kept the Sabbath perfectly throughout their whole life, except Jesus, regardless of your obsession with Matthew 12.'

Were you not admitting indirectly that you do not keep the sabbath day perfectly either but only Jesus did or did I misunderstood you here?

You most certainly did not misunderstand me.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Right now we are observing Shabbat in Israel.
If you get in your car and go to the Old City in Jerusalem, you will be assaulted by hyper religious jews who are dressed in black and think they are going to heaven.
They worship the LAW, and they are rejected by God, because they have not submitted to God's righteousness, that is the blood of Jesus.
How about that.

This helps me keep a little perspective on your message; where you live.

So how do they assault you? You mean when you try to evangelize to them or something?

Blessings in Christ,
- H

 

[dad]

"The works of His hands are verity and judgment; all His Commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in Truth and uprightness."
Psalms 111:7-8

Who are the 10 Commandments written to?
They are written to all God's Children.

Who are God's Children? Let's see.

God is a spirit. Those who worship Him (His Children) must worship Him in spirit and in Truth.
John 4:24

Spiritual Israel are God's Children; NOT any physical/fleshly race - for "...they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God:.."
Romans 9:8

Is God's Law a physical Law or a Spiritual Law?
"For we know that the Law is spiritual:..."
Romans 7:14

"Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, (those who do them and keep them may go to heaven.)...Ye shall not add unto (them), neither shall ye diminish (them)..., that ye might keep the Commandments of the Lord your God ..."
Deuteronomy 4:1-2

NOTE: this chapter speaks nothing of the Mosaic/Ceremonial laws. It is ONLY referring to the 10 Commandments which ARE God's Law.

"And He declared unto you ... Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on tables of stone."
Deuteronomy 4:13

And what if His Children stop obeying His Commandments?

"... the Lord shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen,..."
Deuteronomy 4:27

We are living this reality today. Scattered far and wide; few and far between among the nations.

"But if from thence thou shalt seek the Lord thy God, thou shalt find Him, if thou seek Him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
(This next verse is PROOF POSITIVE that the Commandments are still valid to this very day.)
When thou art in tribulation , and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days(end times), if thou turn to the Lord thy God, and shalt be obedient unto His voice; (For the Lord thy God is a merciful God; ) He will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers(10 Commandments) which He sware unto them."
Deuteronomy 4:29-31

"The works of His hands are verity and judgment; all His Commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in Truth and uprightness."
Psalm 111:7-8

"My covenant will I not break nor alter (forever) the thing that has gone out of My lips."
Psalm 89:34

"For I am the Lord, I change not; ..."
Malachi 3:6

Do you keep these commandments? It seems Paul mentioned they were more or less to show us that no one could keep them, which is why we need Jesus to save us.

 

[Oceanprayers]

except Adam of course

You've a serious fixation with objecting to empowered women.
What a sin.

 

[Grailhunter]

People say things because it sounds good. LOL How many people say that the Law is still valid or that they keep the Law, but have no idea what the 613 Mosaic Laws are, much less how they are to be kept. I am holier than you because I keep the Law! Ha! Ha! Sounds good, but they are not keeping the Law. If they did they would end up in prison or an insane asylum. It is just a ridiculous thing to think or say. Even the Jews have "modified" the Law so it can be "honorarily" observed in modern times.

And then you guys are going round and round about the Ten Commandments....but never discuss the actual Ten Commandments......The ten moral statements in chapter 20 are not the Ten Commandments and no one seems to be interested in what they actually are. Talking about things you do not understand.

Case in point....the Sabbath....The topic of should we or should we not observe the Sabbath...

But first, it is an irrelevant topic if you do not know how to observe the Sabbath. So is there anyone here that knows how to correctly observe the Sabbath?

 

[dad]

The law is impossible to keep. If you try, you’re under the curse because you are working for your salvation. I think we just need to love our God and our fellow man and everything will fall into place.

Well, I think we should all try. It won't save us, but we can always try to please Him.

 

[Oceanprayers]

Do you keep these commandments? It seems Paul mentioned they were more or less to show us that no one could keep them, which is why we need Jesus to save us.

Think about a Pharisee's perspective in that opinion. God gave 613 laws knowing, since God is Omniscient, no human could obey them. And be damned.

 

[dad]

People say things because it sounds good. LOL How many people say that the Law is still valid or that they keep the Law, but have no idea what the 613 Mosaic Laws are, much less how they are to be kept. I am holier than you because I keep the Law! Ha! Ha! Sounds good, but they are not keeping the Law. If they did they would end up in prison or an insane asylum. It is just a ridiculous thing to think or say. Even the Jews have "modified" the Law so it can be "honorarily" observed in modern times.

And then you guys are going round and round about the Ten Commandments....but never discuss the actual Ten Commandments......The ten moral statements in chapter 20 are not the Ten Commandments and no one seems to be interested in what they actually are. Talking about things you do not understand.

Case in point....the Sabbath....The topic of should we or should we not observe the Sabbath...

But first, it is an irrelevant topic if you do not know how to observe the Sabbath. So is there anyone here that knows how to correctly observe the Sabbath?

Yes. We love God on the Sabbath.

 

[BarneyFife]

Thanks to Jesus Christ, I love Him more than the sabbath day to honor Him every day as I rely on Him as my Good Shepherd to follow Him.

See, this is a straw man. Christ doesn't want you to love the Sabbath more than Him. Why introduce these extraneous elements into a serious discussion?

 

[dad]

Think about a Pharisee's perspective in that opinion. God gave 613 laws knowing, since God is Omniscient, no human could obey them. And be damned.

Even the ten no one obeyed. Adultery for instance. One look sometime in your life and you are an adulterer.