Zechariah 14 . . . Fulfilled? or Future?
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Very true so many places in the last few chapters of Zechariah in that day applies to the days Jesus was on the earth
Also Zechariah makes more sense when you realize that Zechariah talks about both the earthly Jerusalem and the new Jerusalem one is destroyed and one is protected
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In the first advent on the day that Jesus ascended Jesus stood on the mount of olives and gave the command to spread the gospel to the world and what happened shook the world. The gospel started to spread from Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost through the power of the Holy Spirit through the deciples which Zechariah describes in chapter 14:8
8 On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter
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Excellent point...and I was eventually going to get to that if needed for a future discussion. The physical city destroyed and then the new one, for ever, with constant light.
So essentially what you are saying is that this is not literal, but is metaphorical, or allegorical, or something like that, is that correct?
How do you know it doesn't mean what it says in the words He uses? That a mountain splitting into two is actually that, that there will be an actual valley through which people flee.
How do you know that's not what it means?
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Do you hold to a 1000 year kingdom of Jesus on the earth when He returns?
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Same question for you as for Marty, do you hold to a 1000 year kingdom of Jesus on the earth when He returns?
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How do you know it doesn't mean what it says? That this prophecy is not describing a physical event that will happen?
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Because its all about the time of the first advent of Jesus and Jesus explained what the living water is.
John 7:37-39
37 On the last and greatest day of the festival, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, “Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. 38 Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.” 39 By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.
Let the NT reveal the OT
No, it's about the second advent, when Jesus returns in judgment and restoration.
We can both make these kinds of statements, but what is the authority?
These are proposition prophetic narratives. This will happen, then that will happen, and so on. My authority is that is says what it says, it means what it says, and what it says harmonizes with the rest of the Bible.
Your assertion appears to be that it doesn't really mean what it says, what it says actually indicate different things, unsaid. On what basis should we say, "It's not REALLY a mountain splitting into two, forming a valley, half moving north, half moving south, through which the people will flee"?
It sounds like you've decided that this all must be related to Jesus' first advent, and now you are determining the real meanings of these words based on that idea.
On what do you base that idea, that this must be "first advent"?
There seems to me to be a lot of Scripture that connects this prophecy to others, which outline the same thing, Jesus coming to rescue His people who are about to be destroyed, then regathering them to their homeland, and judging the gentile nations.
I've selected this one in particular as it describes a narrative in clear terms. So I continue to ask, why shouldn't we accept the clarity of the passage?
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And that's how you know that Zechariah 14 isn't about a literal mount of olives? I don't follow your reasoning.
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What I'm reading specifies "the day of the LORD". Did that refer to Jesus' first advent? That was the Day of YHWH?
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No, wishful thinking that Christ would change his mind and make his Kingdom an earthly one, complete with body guards and soldiers to fight any future-age 'Roman' oppressor.
Yes no NT writer or even Jesus ever mentioned Him ruling on the earth for 1000 years
Because its all about the first advent.
No single verse or chapter in the bible mention Jesus living and ruling on the earth for 1000 years it doesn't exist. If it were true and the bible is literal wouldn't it all be together mentioned at least once?
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