The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

[Timtofly]

I'll let God's Holy Word speak for me.

Isa 66:1..."Thus says the LORD: "Heaven is my throne and the earth is my footstool; what is the house which you would build for me, and what is the place of my rest?"

Act 7:49...'Heaven is my throne, and earth my footstool. What house will you build for me, says the Lord, or what is the place of my rest?​

Jhn 2:21...But he spoke of the temple of his body.

1Co 3:16...Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?
1Co 3:17...If any one destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and that temple you are.

1Co 6:19...Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God? You are not your own;

2Co 6:16...What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, "I will live in them and move among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Eph 2:21...in whom the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord;

2Th 2:4...who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple (naos; not hieron) of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

Rev 21:22...And I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb.
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You can apologize any time you want.

I see God's point. Still not seeing your point at all.

 

[Keraz]

Any claim of future animal blood sacrifice blessed by God is "way out in left field"!

So you all just ignore the Bible truths I posted in #395?
Yes, Jesus did make the ultimate sacrifice for our sins, But as is prophesied the time is coming when we Christians will be required to make offerings and our atonement to Jesus. As so carefully described in Ezekiel 40 to 46.
My worshippers, from far distant places, will bring offerings to Me. Zephaniah 3:10

I suggest that you and all who reject the plainly stated scriptures about the new Temple and its functions, seriously rethink your beliefs to conform with actual scripture, rather than false theories and fables.

 

[Truth7t7]

Jesus did make the ultimate sacrifice for our sins, But as is prophesied the time is coming when we Christians will be required to make offerings and our atonement to Jesus. As so carefully described in Ezekiel 40 to 46.
My worshippers, from far distant places, will bring offerings to Me. Zephaniah 3:10

I suggest that you and all who reject the plainly stated scriptures about the new Temple and its functions, seriously rethink your beliefs to conform with actual scripture, rather than false theories and fables.

Many Claim Ezekiel Chapters 40-46, Represents A Future Temple In A Millennium On Earth, Is This True?

As clearly shown, Ezekiel Chapter 43 showed the temple "Pattern" to the House of Israel in the Babylonian Captivity let "Them" measure, Ezekiel was instructed to write the ordinances and law in "Their" sight, that "They" keep them, not some future generation as many "Falsely" claim

The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, where animal sacrifice for "Sin" was was instructed by "God", prior to the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary, don't be deceived

Ezekiel 43:10-11 & 19-21KJV
10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.
11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.

19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.
20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.
21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.

 

[ewq1938]

Many Claim Ezekiel Chapters 40-46, Represents A Future Temple In A Millennium On Earth, Is This True?

As clearly shown, Ezekiel Chapter 43 showed the temple "Pattern" to the House of Israel in the Babylonian Captivity let "Them" measure

Exactly. It was not prophecy but instructions. I believe they were never carried out or followed. There will not be animal sacrifices in the Millennium.

 

[Keraz]

The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC

This is so obviously wrong that it defies common sense.
The entire prophesies of Ezekiel are for the end times, they were not for the Jewish Israelites in Babylon. Ezekiel 12:27
Nothing that happened when the Temple was built by the returned exiles of Babylon, relates to Ezekiel's prophesies.

Exactly. It was not prophecy but instructions. I believe they were never carried out or followed. There will not be animal sacrifices in the Millennium.

You sail very close to the wind.
Basically, you deny scripture and make false assertions.
The Bible prophesies quoted in #395, mean what they say, if they contradict your beliefs; then your beliefs are wrong.

 

[ewq1938]

Basically, you deny scripture and make false assertions.

Usually accusations like this apply to the one making them.

 

[Truth7t7]

Exactly. It was not prophecy but instructions. I believe they were never carried out or followed. There will not be animal sacrifices in the Millennium.

There won't be a future Millennial Kingdom on this earth, it's a man made fairy tale found no place in scripture

Jesus returns in fire and final judgement (The End)

Nahum 1:5KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.

 

[ewq1938]

There won't be a future Millennial Kingdom on this earth, it's a man made fairy tale found no place in scripture

Revelation 20 disagrees with you.

 

[Truth7t7]

This is so obviously wrong that it defies common sense.
The entire prophesies of Ezekiel are for the end times, they were not for the Jewish Israelites in Babylon. Ezekiel 12:27
Nothing that happened when the Temple was built by the returned exiles of Babylon, relates to Ezekiel's prophesies.

You sail very close to the wind.
Basically, you deny scripture and make false assertions.
The Bible prophesies quoted in #395, mean what they say, if they contradict your beliefs; then your beliefs are wrong.

Ezekiel 43:18-21 sees God instructing the temple priesthood in animal blood sacrifice for "Sin", yes this was instruction given for the 2nd Zerubbabel temple 536BC after Israel returned to Jerusalem from the Babylonian captivity, no more "Sin" offerings will be seen after the cross of Calvary

Ezekiel 43:19-21KJV
19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.
20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.
21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.

 

[Truth7t7]

Revelation 20 disagrees with you.

Revelation 20:1-6 has no physical kingdom on this earth, with mortal humans being present, a Millennial Kingdom on this earth is a man made fairy tale

 

[ewq1938]

Revelation 20:1-6 has no physical kingdom on this earth, with mortal humans being present, a Millennial Kingdom on this earth is a man made fairy tale

Sorry but you are completely wrong.

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.


Even your doctrine teaches that you are reigning with Christ on the Earth right now. You are being slightly hypocritical here.

Mortal humans are promised in Revelation 2 and 19, with the verb being in the future tense. Premillennialism is well proven and Amillennialism well disproven. Your "right now" Millennium is a fantasy that the real condition of the world disproves.

 

[Moriah's Song]

I see God's point. Still not seeing your point at all.

That's a contradiction because if you see that God's point is that He does not want another earthly temple then my point, by using those scripture alone, means that you did "get the point;" you just can't admit it.

 

[Moriah's Song]

So you all just ignore the Bible truths I posted in #395?

Yep, we are used to your "falsifying scripture" in order to hold onto OT prophesies that have been FULFILLED because of your unbiblical agenda. People who only have false agendas only ALWAYS get on these threads to promote Satan's work.

 

[Keraz]

Usually accusations like this apply to the one making them.

Usually accusations and wrong theories are refuted by providing proof scriptures.

There has been no sacrifices since the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. But Bible prophecy makes it clear that there will again be a Temple and offerings will be made in it to God.
Proved by Daniel 9:27, as the 'beast'; the Anti-Christ puts a stop to them.

Ezekiel 43:18-21 sees God instructing the temple priesthood in animal blood sacrifice for "Sin", yes this was instruction given for the 2nd Zerubbabel temple 536BC after Israel returned to Jerusalem from the Babylonian captivity, no more "Sin" offerings will be seen after the cross of Calvary

This is pathetic, you avoid all the rest of Ezekiel, which is quite unlike the actions of Zerubbabel, Ezra and Nehemiah and cannot be fulfilled until all the faithful people of God are gathered into all of the holy land. Ezekiel 39:26-29

Some here seem to think they know better than God; of what He wants and what He plans to do.

 

[Moriah's Song]

Usually accusations and wrong theories are refuted by providing proof scriptures.

We have provided proof over and over and over again but you still have your head buried in the sand because your false agenda won't let you see truth in scripture that has been FULFILLED.

 

[Moriah's Song]

Some here seem to think they know better than God; of what He wants and what He plans to do.

And then there is Keras that "seems to think he knows better than God; of what He wants and what He plans to do" but his false agenda will burn with the fires along with his other false doctrines.

 

[Moriah's Song]

Revelation 20 disagrees with you.

In your reference to a future "millennial kingdom in Rev 20"

...Jesus answered, "My kingship is not of this world; if my kingship were of this world, my servants would fight, that I might not be handed over to the Jews; but my kingship is not from the world." (John 18:36)​

 

[ewq1938]

In your reference to a future "millennial kingdom in Rev 20"

...Jesus answered, "My kingship is not of this world; if my kingship were of this world, my servants would fight, that I might not be handed over to the Jews; but my kingship is not from the world." (John 18:36)​

I'll add this to that:

Jesus is NOT reigning over His enemies now - according to Scripture

To reign means to rule over people and have complete control. Look around at the world. ISIS is murdering Christians and harming the growth of the gospel. The world is full is false gods and religions and evil practices.

It is clear someone else reigns this wicked, morally corrupt world currently:

Joh 14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
Joh 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Prince here doesn't mean second in command or something like we think in modern English, it means the ruler, the first in rank or power:

G758
a?´????
archo¯n
ar'-khone
Present participle of G757; a first (in rank or power): - chief (ruler), magistrate, prince, ruler.


G758
a?´????
archo¯n
Thayer Definition:
1) a ruler, commander, chief, leader
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: present participle of G757
Citing in TDNT: 1:488, 81

According to Christ, the ruler of this world was to come after Christ left. We know from Rev 12 that after He ascended there was a war in heaven and satan was cast to the Earth just as Christ said would happen. According to Jesus Christ himself, the one reigning/ruling the world after His ascension would be satan!

 

[ewq1938]

Usually accusations and wrong theories are refuted by providing proof scriptures.

There has been no sacrifices since the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. But Bible prophecy makes it clear that there will again be a Temple and offerings will be made in it to God.
Proved by Daniel 9:27, as the 'beast'; the Anti-Christ puts a stop to them.

There hasn't been sacrifices for a long time. What exactly is he supposed to stop? There is no prophecy about such things.

 

[Keraz]

There hasn't been sacrifices for a long time. What exactly is he supposed to stop? There is no prophecy about such things.

Here are some of the prophesies about a new Temple and how offerings will be made in it:
Psalm 51:18-19 Now Lord, show Your favour to Zion and rebuild Jerusalem. Then You will delight in the appointed sacrifices, young bulls will be offered in Your altar.

Jeremiah 17:24-26 Now, if you obey the Lord’s Commandments, then a ruler will again occupy David’s throne and Jerusalem will be inhabited forever. Then people will come bringing whole offerings, sacrifices as thank offerings to the Lord’s House.

Jeremiah 33:14-18 The days are coming when I shall bless Judah and Israel…….there will always be a Levitical Priest to burn the grain and other offerings every day.

Ezekiel 45:13-25 The details of and the dates for making all the sacrifices and offerings on the Altar of the Temple.

Isaiah 60:6-7 Livestock in droves will be in the Land to serve your needs, as acceptable offerings on My Altar and I will adorn My glorious Temple.

The context of these scriptures proves that all this will be for the last days’ period before the Return of Jesus. What will happen during the Millennium isn’t told to us, although there will be priest’s then. Revelation 20:6 But we know there will be no Temple in Eternity. Revelation 21:22