Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

[APAK]

My faith is in the Holy Bible and therefore I believe in a tri-une God too

Interesting. So your faith in your Bible gives you belief in a Triune god? Never read about that one god in the Bible. I have read about the one God, who is my Father though.

 

[True Faith]

Interesting. So your faith in your Bible gives you belief in a Triune god? Never read about that one god in the Bible. I have read about the one God, who is my Father though.

Tomorrow when I get off from work I am posting my new thread debunking the Theory and false doctrine of the Trinity...

Anyone and every one who claims that Jesus is God Himself or that God is "Triune" consistently calling God Himself a liar, there by speaking blasphemies against God himself.

 

[BeyondET]

Without a doubt the most important question you will ever be asked in your Christian Life...

Is your faith in the Bible or is it in God?

If you have to use the Bible to validate your faith, then your faith is in the Bible and not in God.
If you Believe that the Bible supports a Triune God, your faith is in the Bible and not in God.
If you believe Jesus was God Himself, your faith is in the Bible and not in God.
If you believe that God will not talk to you, then your faith is in the Bible and not God.

When you post comments and quote them, please post the entire post and not just bits and pieces.
I know hardly any of you will do that because cherry picking is your way of hiding from the truth...

So what is the purpose of the Bible?

 

[farouk]

The basic premise of the OP seems to be mistaken.

Saving faith is about trusting the God of the Bible.

 

[BeyondET]

Find All In The Heart

 

[farouk]

So what is the purpose of the Bible?

@BeyondET Exactly......................

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I can see that not one of you have ever actually heard God....
not one single one....

Every single one of you, well except one that I know of, have called Jesus himself a Liar...

You claim that the Bible is eternal life, when it isn't...

By your faith, that is in the Bible and not God Himself, you call Jesus himself a liar when he said John 5:39 "Search the scriptures daily; for in them YE THINK YE MIGHT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE: and they are they which testify of me."

You ask me to show you my faith without the Bible, well I am doing that as we speak.

You claim that the only way that people can hear God is through the Scriptures, The Prophets heard God's voice, the Disciple's of Jesus heard God's Voice so there's that...

Now the scriptures Jesus is referring to is the Old Testament because the New Testament hadn't been written yet...

I have told everyone time and time again, Your life is your faith in God, what did James say??? James 2:18 "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works."

You show your faith by being obedient to God...

And why do people always say that I said to never use the Bible??? I use it all the time, you would have noticed that if you actually read what was wrote...

People write these long drawn out messages and still have zero clue what this is all about...

You think that in the Bible you will have eternal life, this is absolutely false. Unless you want to call Jesus a liar... And for those who believe that Jesus is God Himself then you are calling God Himself a liar...

there is only one thing you cannot do that can never be forgiven and that is a blasphemy against God, speaking words against God. You know like Calling God Himself a liar... So, basically, when you say that the Bible is eternal life, and you claim that Jesus is God Himself or even his words are God Himself, you are calling God Himself a liar...

So why is your faith in the Bible???

If you say it is not, you are telling a lie if you need it to establish your faith....

I don’t even “ bother” to read this guy’s Hogwash anymore.....who’s with me? Those of us with functioning Brains that understand God and His Ways That received that “ understanding” by STUDYING His Word and learning How to do what we were COMMANDED to do—— *RIGHTLY DIVIDE* that Word— can take great Solace in the fact that if there are any Newbies in the crowd, many Biblical Truths were brought forth—- Despite this weird-o’s Ignorance and Confusion! He inadvertently made himself a great “ Springboard” to get many Biblical Facts out there......
So let’s give a “ tip of the hat” to “ True Faith” as we return to the World Of Reality.....

 

[Michiah-Imla]

The basic premise of the OP seems to be mistaken.

Saving faith is about trusting the God of the Bible.

But do you have faith in what the Bible says? Regarding salvation, eternal life, sin, righteousness, etc,?

This seems to be where @True Faith runs off the road of logic…

 

[BeyondET]

the bible is to help turn the faith of a mustard seed into something more.

 

[True Faith]

I don’t even “ bother” to read this guy’s Hogwash anymore.....who’s with me? Those of us with functioning Brains that understand God and His Ways That received that “ understanding” by STUDYING His Word and learning How to do what we were COMMANDED to do—— *RIGHTLY DIVIDE* that Word— can take great Solace in the fact that if there are any Newbies in the crowd, many Biblical Truths were brought forth—- Despite this weird-o’s Ignorance and Confusion! He inadvertently made himself a great “ Springboard” to get many Biblical Facts out there......
So let’s give a “ tip of the hat” to “ True Faith” as we return to the World Of Reality.....

Then why read it??... if you have nothing to say then why even bother because I can tell you right now you are completely wrong...

 

[True Faith]

the bible is to help turn the faith of a mustard seed into something more.

Show me, in the Boble, where the Bible turns a mustard seed of faith into something more???... You do not even know what faith is and Jesus explains it, yet you do not even pay attention and he is not being metaphorical in his explanation either...

The bible is not for connecting and keeping a connection with God.

Only goes to show that your faith is not in God because without the Bible you would have no faith at all... you rely on the Bible to tell you instead of Listening to God himself,..... Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

 

[BeyondET]

Show me, in the Boble, where the Bible turns a mustard seed of faith into something more???... You do not even know what faith is and Jesus explains it, yet you do not even pay attention and he is not being metaphorical in his explanation either...

The bible is not for connecting and keeping a connection with God.

Only goes to show that your faith is not in God because without the Bible you would have no faith at all... you rely on the Bible to tell you instead of Listening to God himself,..... Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Sometimes it's the only thing I have

When my heart is overwhelmed lead me to the rock that is higher than I.
Psalm 61:2

 

[True Faith]

Sometimes it's the only thing I have

When my heart is overwhelmed lead me to the rock that is higher than I.
Psalm 61:2

So are you telling me that the only time you have God is when you have the Bible???

 

[amigo de christo]

The basic premise of the OP seems to be mistaken.

Saving faith is about trusting the God of the Bible.

BINGO. Spot on right my friend .

 

[True Faith]

I don’t even “ bother” to read this guy’s Hogwash anymore.....who’s with me? Those of us with functioning Brains that understand God and His Ways That received that “ understanding” by STUDYING His Word and learning How to do what we were COMMANDED to do—— *RIGHTLY DIVIDE* that Word— can take great Solace in the fact that if there are any Newbies in the crowd, many Biblical Truths were brought forth—- Despite this weird-o’s Ignorance and Confusion! He inadvertently made himself a great “ Springboard” to get many Biblical Facts out there......
So let’s give a “ tip of the hat” to “ True Faith” as we return to the World Of Reality.....

Oh.. I am going to touch on one thing in this ... before there was a Bible... how did people know how to do what they were commanded to do???

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Then why read it??... if you have nothing to say then why even bother because I can tell you right now you are completely wrong...

Seeing as to how I don’t read this guy’s claptrap anymore, would somebody please pass on to me Anything Of His That might show a glimmer of Biblical Insight and /or Spiritual Discernment ?I will not be holding my breath....

 

[shortangel]

my faith is in God but the Bible helps me to learn how he wants me to live

 

[BeyondET]

So are you telling me that the only time you have God is when you have the Bible???

Did I say the only time, is there such a thing as only sometimes?

 

[BeyondET]

You got beef with people and their faith that's what the thread seems to be about.

 

[FHII]

First and foremost... my request was not amiss... you have already said that you did not provide reasoning for why the sense...

I have absolutely no issues with the Bible at all.. I have quite a few of them and in Greek and Hebrew...

I quote from it often and read it every single day actually... not because I need to to stay connected but, because I want to...

Oh, but yes your request was amiss. It was asked based on a false premise. You said I stated you are hostile to the Bible. That is not what I said. But let's move on... There is no sense in going through the"you said, I said" dance.

So you have no issues with the Bible. You own quite a few of them and some in Greek and Hebrew. Wow. That makes you pretty intelligent. Do you read the Greek and Hebrew Bibles? If so... wow! I really admire folks who can speak or read 3 languages!

I think I have 2 editions of the NKJV upstairs and have a copy of the 1611 KJV. I also have a copy of the apocrypha. But other than that, I only have one I use. Of course, I have a Bible App too. Who doesn't, right? But my point is, I really only need one Bible. But in any sense, congratulations on owning so many Bibles.

It's nice that you read it every day and it's. It nice that you quote it, although you haven't quoted it once in our conversation, and in the few posts I have read in this thread, I notice you challenge others to prove their point without quoting the Bible.

But yes.. you have no problem with the Bible! Got it!!! You just don't want others to quote the Bible.

I read an interesting response you made to Bible Highlighter. One of the few I have read.... Let's have a look:

prove, with out the using the Bible, that you have faith in God?

Why should he (or she)? You have no problem with the Bible. Why are you demanding someone to not use it? But you are not hostile to the Bible....

Really on the "The Bible is How we are able to have faith in God"... so without the Bible you no longer have faith???

Got to hand it to you, technically you are correct. But I sense its for the same reason.

How is rejecting the Bible rejecting God??? Please answer without using the Bible please... if your faith were in God Himself you would not need the Bible...

Do you reject the Bible? Because that is what this implies! And once again, you ask this Saint not to use the Words God spoke... umm... sorry. The Bible!

Faith comes by hearing and hearing the Word of God, are you saying that God Himself is incapable of talking to you???

That's a quote from Romans 10! And it's a great quote! Now what's funny is that you asked this Saint not to use the Bible but you decided it was ok for you to quote it.. That seems a bit hypocritical to me!

When you post comments and quote them, please post the entire post and not just bits and pieces.

That is what you said in you OP. But to Bible Higightwr you said: "are you saying that God Himself is incapable of talking to you???"

Well, you left something out of Romans10, didn't you? You are demanding people not use the Bible, while you use it, but partially quote it!

You see, you are correct. Faith does come by hearing. Romans 10 says that. But it also asks a rhetorical question: how can you hear without a preacher.

Do you go to Church? Do you listen to a preacher?

I eagerly await your response!

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A note to Bible Highlighter: I sincerely apologize for butting into you conversation. I like to let people fend for themselves as I believe they are capable of doing so. My apologies for stepping on your toes.

 

[heartwashed]

I WANTED to find the verse that proved the “wrath of God poured on Christ who took the punishment that God wanted to inflict on us” teaching that I had HEARD. I have searched HARD. That is just not what the actual verses in the Bible say. It is what people “read between the lines” that the verses must really mean. That is bad exegeses and hermeneutics.

What the scripture DOES SAY is absolutely fascinating. Try to prove me wrong (I welcome it) and see what you actually find when you REALLY READ THE WORDS. What they say and what they do not say.

Apparently you don't know what the word "propitiation" means; in such verses as Romans 3:25, 1 John 2:2, and 1 John 4:10.

I would suggest that you go and look it up.