God kills Hypocrites and Takes them Home. He will not be Mocked.

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marks

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You are respecting @Taken ‘s person.

He excluded all other sins, including the ones transgressing the law, implying that only the one sin he mentioned was sin.

Weird how preaching against sin is so despised around here…
I'm not @Taken , I'm me.

Hi there

I was responding to @robert derrick 's post.

Who is it that despises preaching against sin?

That sounds like another of those false accusations. Which is something we shouldn't do.

Wouldn't that be one of those "false witness" things? A violation of the commandment? Sin? Something no born again person does??

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Michiah-Imla

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Who is it that despises preaching against sin?

Then why are you party to battling against sin cessation?

There are two options:

Be ye holy as God is holy.

Or

Be ye defiled as Satan is defiled.

Choose one.

The Lord doesn’t like lukewarm middle of road lip servers.
 

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Then why are you party to battling against sin cessation?
Why is it you cannot seem to understand that I am all about living by faith in a walk in the Spirit doing works of righteousness????

Why is it that I must be continually slandered as if I approve of, or promote, or excuse sin????

Why? Can you tell me?

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1 John 2:1 KJV
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Who has an advocate with the Father? The born again? The not born again?

The born again do. The unregenerate do not have Jesus as their intercessor, not until they come to faith and receive Him.

Why do they need an intercessor? An advocate with the Father? IF any man sin . . .

Much love!

Here I disagree with you, and WHY.
Jesus came to Speak The Truth, AND DIVIDE. (Luke 12:51)
Hear Jesus’ Word, Believe it or Not, that is the Divide.
Keep hearing, believe, doubt, wonder....(remember the disciples)?
Challenge the Lords Truth...(remember Judas)?
Believe, Believe, Believe...hey, world is scary, wars, diseases, fears...
Why, why, why, God, why did my child, my son, have to die?
Where were you God, when men were on the battlefields calling out to you?
Belief falters, hope is in Luck. Lucky it rained, Lucky deals, ??
WHO is the ADVOCATE, when men first begin believing and doubt?
Jesus.
WHO is the ADVOCATE, when men Believe, then fall into temptations, are afraid, challenge God?
Jesus.
WHO petitions God on a mans behalf when he is Believes, but is weak?
Jesus.
Over and Over and Over, IN Jesus NAME does God Hear the Prayers of UN-Saved men.

Men who BELIEVE on the day they die, “become” Saved then.
Be they dead now, or during the Tribulation, IF they Believe, they Shall be Saved.

But what DID Jesus reveal? A gift of Salvation can be HAD by a man WHO GIVES His LIFE, as a LIVING SACRIFICE (crucified with Jesus).
That is a SERVICE a man can WILLINGLY, FREELY Choose to do, or not.
That SERVICE is effected by a man WHO calls on the Lord, and gives His YES is YES. A true Heartful declaration of His Belief. His own sorrow for having HAD NOT believe, and his own declaration He does Believe.

Thereafter, Christ (the power of God, the seed of God, the Quickener of God) Changes that man instantly. No ceremony, no ritual, no water, no crowd, no banquet, no trinkets...is required.
That “divided” man WITH the Lord Jesus, has become A man “separated” unto the Lord God “forever”.

Will Jesus continue to be that mans ADVOCATE, taking every prayer to God on your behalf? No.

Examine John 16 closely, on what days, what will occur for individuals.
John 16:
[23] And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
Advocate ^
[24] Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
Advocate ^
[25] These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.
Revealing ^
[26] At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:
Huh? Why not?
[27] For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
[28] I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
Whose name is Above all other names?
Who is your God you are praying TO?
Remember Jesus speaking to Philip?
John 14:
[8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
[9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Some men are all hip to the idea to SAY, Jesus IS God, others bite their tongue for fear of criticism to SAY Christ the Lord Jesus IS the Lord God Almighty.
Believers, having NOT become Converted, STILL Have an Advocate, can still sin, can still fall away.
I am Converted, I am already “separated” unto God.
I am “not” sinless, (as other would like to declare for me).
I am freed from Sin, and can sin no more.
At no time, can I ever again be Against the Lord God Almighty.
I pray Directly to my Lord God Almighty, who has sealed me unto Himself.
 

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Why is it that I must be continually slandered as if I approve of, or promote, or excuse sin????

You are being dishonest man.

You are openly withstanding my words in this thread and all I am doing is telling people that a Christian should stop sinning. What else am I to deduce here?

And this thread is what that looks like?

I for one do not think so

Did it “look” holy here?

“Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?” (Matthew 23:33)

Judge not according to the appearance.
 

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Holiness = contemptuous and ignorant slander.

True? Or Not True?

Reminds me of where those that stoned Stephen, laid their coats at Sauls feet. I wonder what Paul would answer to your question? especially with all the times he said he’d dragged them in chained and bound…
 
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Holiness = contemptuous and ignorant slander.

True? Or Not True?

Not true.

But it does look like this:

“…O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?” (Acts 13:10)

That was the Apostle Paul. Surely you wouldn’t cast a slander upon him, would you?
 

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That was the Apostle Paul. Surely you wouldn’t cast a slander upon him, would you?
Oh yes they would, most certainly.

They not only call him double hearted for life, but also the chiefest of sinners.

They don't preach the Scriptures written in ink, and so neither the Jesus and Paul of Scripture on paper, but only the scriptures of their own minds, which includes their pseudo-Jesus and Paul.
 

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They not only call him double hearted for life, but also the chiefest of sinners.

Yes, you’re right.

Part-time sinners often turn everyone in the Bible into a hypocritical sinner like themselves (except Christ of course). So sad.
 
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You are respecting @Taken ‘s person.

What concern is that of yours?

He excluded all other sins, including the ones transgressing the law, implying that only the one sin he mentioned was sin.

Excluded all other sins, implying only one sin, mentioned was sin?
:rolleyes:

Weird how preaching against sin is so despised around here…

Weird how you have missed so much of Jesus’ doctrine.
 

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I am “not” sinless, (as other would like to declare for me).
I am freed from Sin, and can sin no more.
If you cannot sin any longer, you are sinless. Isn't that correct?

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You are being dishonest man.

You are openly withstanding my words in this thread and all I am doing is telling people that a Christian should stop sinning. What else am I to deduce here?

Aren't you advocation for Robert's position? That the born again do not ever commit sin?

Did it “look” holy here?

“Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?” (Matthew 23:33)

Judge not according to the appearance.
By their fruit you shall know them.

The fruit of the Spirit is good character. Bad character is, what?

And you feel OK to say I'm a liar? Got it.

Much love!