Religious Liberty!

[theefaith]

But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all. For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. (Mark 10:42-45)

the popes the successors of saint Peter are the servants of the servants of God

hierarchical authority does not mean they are there to be served but to serve the church and be subject to Christ

 

[theefaith]

Those who believe aren’t rejecting his Church.

then they would be in His new covenant church

 

[theefaith]

Local bishops opposed to Vatican II and local bishops supportive of Vatican II.

You’ve been without a successor to Peter since 1958. That’s 64 years. There’s never been a successor to Peter in your lifetime.

What about earlier popes? Has there ever been a time frame prior to 1958 when, in your opinion, there was no successor to Peter?

I don’t say it for sure I only have my doubts

 

[Matthias]

then they would be in His new covenant church

They are.

 

[Matthias]

I don’t say it for sure I only have my doubts

Do you know if he’s done, or is doing, anything to reverse Vatican II?

 

[mailmandan]

The mother of Jesus Christ is not pagan or a sinner!

a bad tree (sinner or pagan) CANNOT bring forth good fruit!
Mary brought forth our savior and our salvation!

A good tree!

Biblical principle:

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Matt 1:21 Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation! This reflects the immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:38 consented to our salvation!

A good tree (immaculate conception) Lk 1:49 God has done this and it is marvelous in our eyes!

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

A sinner would be an evil tree with evil fruit, but the fruit of Mary is salvation!

Mary brings in the good fruits of our redemption and salvation!

So Mary CANNOT be a sinner or a bad tree!

Tree of life!

The tree of life on the garden is a type of Mary!

Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: (Jn 6:51)

Genesis 3:24
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Proverbs 3:18
She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.

Proverbs 11:30
The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise.

Revelation 2:7
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Revelation 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Matt 1:21 Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation! This reflects the immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:38 consented to our salvation!

A good tree (immaculate conception) Lk 1:49 God has done this and it is marvelous in our eyes!

A Good tree cannot bear bad fruit!
A biblical principle approved by Jesus even though He knew it would be used to defend His sinless mother!

Mary is the tree of life!

Sacred womb of Mary!

Isa 7:14 Theotokos the “God bearer”!

Sacred womb!
Blessed fruit of her womb!

Matt 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

Matt 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Lk 1:42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.

A sinner cannot have a sacred womb and be blessed and have a blessed fruit of her womb!

Only a good tree, a holy & immaculate tree can bear the good fruit who is God and our redemption and salvation!

Only a queen can bear a king!

The mother of the king is always a queen!

Song of Solomon 6

1 Whither is thy beloved gone, O thou fairest among women? whither is thy beloved turned aside? that we may seek him with thee.

2 My beloved is gone down into his garden, to the beds of spices, to feed in the gardens, and to gather lilies.

3 I am my beloved's, and my beloved is mine: he feedeth among the lilies.

4 Thou art beautiful, O my love, as Tirzah, comely as Jerusalem, terrible as an army with banners.

5 Turn away thine eyes from me, for they have overcome me: thy hair is as a flock of goats that appear from Gilead.

6 Thy teeth are as a flock of sheep which go up from the washing, whereof every one beareth twins, and there is not one barren among them.

7 As a piece of a pomegranate are thy temples within thy locks.

8 There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, and virgins without number.

9 My dove, my undefiled is but one; she is the only one of her mother, she is the choice one of her that bare her. The daughters saw her, and blessed her; yea, the queens and the concubines, and they praised her.

10 Who is she that looketh forth as the morning, fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners?

Luke 1:28 Hail Mary full of Grace!
The Lord is with thee!
Blessed are Thou among women!

Luke 1:30 thou hast found favor with God!

What favor?

Our salvation lost by Adam!

Mary is already experiencing the grace of God and salvation in advance, gen 3:15 enmity between Mary and Satan! Total war, none of his wicked works are found in her, Lk 1:28 Mary is already full of grace, preserved by God from all sin in virtue of the merits of Her divine son, so she found this favor for us, and consents to our salvation Lk 1:38 and Jesus Christ is our salvation Lk 2:30 as king Lk 1:32-33 Christ has a kingdom both of justice and mercy! The mother of the king in the davidic line is the queen and received half of the kingdom, Christ retains the kingdom of justice and Mary the kingdom of grace and mercy! The throne of mercy is Mary, and all graces come to us Her children thru Her!
Heb 4:16 Jn 19:26:27 rev 12:17

Hail, holy queen, mother of mercy and of love, our life, our sweetness, and our hope!

The truth stings, but you really need to hear it! Pagan customs and Christianity do not mix.

 

[Matthias]

I stand corrected

It’s not a big deal. We just worked through it together.

 

[Brakelite]

thats not scripture alone!

Did not remove!

It’s all in context or content the first commandment ex 20:2-6

Yeah, so they say. But they still removed scripture, obviously because it didn't suit their idolatrous practises.

 

[amigo de christo]

Yeah, so they say. But they still removed scripture, obviously because it didn't suit their idolatrous practises.

Just a reminder . I seen this thread is called religious liberty . So allow me a friendly reminder .
ANY christain who uses the word liberty as an occasion to serve the flesh , knows not the liberty that cometh of GOD .
For ye have been called unto liberty , ONLY use not your liberty to serve the flesh . AKA dont be thinking ye can sin all day cause ye have liberty .
I remind us this cause i have seen a whole mess of folks that have neither the knowlege nor the wisdom to understand what true liberty entails .
They make void obediance to GOD to CHRIST and act as though grace came to give us liberty TO SIN .

 

[Brakelite]

Just a reminder . I seen this thread is called religious liberty . So allow me a friendly reminder .
ANY christain who uses the word liberty as an occasion to serve the flesh , knows not the liberty that cometh of GOD .
For ye have been called unto liberty , ONLY use not your liberty to serve the flesh . AKA dont be thinking ye can sin all day cause ye have liberty .
I remind us this cause i have seen a whole mess of folks that have neither the knowlege nor the wisdom to understand what true liberty entails .
They make void obediance to GOD to CHRIST and act as though grace came to give us liberty TO SIN .

Indeed my friend. Jesus came to save us from our sin...Matt. 1:21... He is not going to save us despite our sin.

 

[David H.]

presbyter means priest

once again, wrong. Presbyter means Elder

1. among the Christians, those who presided over the assemblies (or churches) The NT uses the term bishop, elders, and presbyters interchangeably.

G4245 - presbyteros - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv) (blueletterbible.org)

if the assumption of the post is faulty the rest of the post is faulty based on that faulty assumption.

 

[David H.]

united to their apostles successor the local bishop who is united to Peter’s successor who is united to Christ

How can the RCC be united to Peter if they ignore his writings in how they run their church, and ignore the teachings of Jesus and rule over the laity (Nicolaitanism) which Jesus preached against?

 

[David H.]

For the mods, why am i getting the emoji when i type the word run in my comments?

 

[Brakelite]

For the mods, why am i getting the emoji when i type the word run in my comments?

Lol, yeah, others including myself, having the same issue. Might have to find a synonym. Dash, Sprint, lope, canter, trot,gallop... Anything but run

 

[theefaith]

They are.

no they are not

the requirements are the same faith and baptism according to the commandment of Jesus Christ truth incarnate Jn 14:6 found in Matt 28:19
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Must believe Christian doctrines of the divinity of Christ and the holy trinity found in the creeds!

 

[theefaith]

Do you know if he’s done, or is doing, anything to reverse Vatican II?

No he enforces it

 

[Matthias]

no they are not

the requirements are the same faith and baptism according to the commandment of Jesus Christ truth incarnate Jn 14:6 found in Matt 28:19
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Must believe Christian doctrines of the divinity of Christ and the holy trinity found in the creeds!

You’re offering Jews Catholicism in particular and trinitarianism in general.

I’m offering Jews the Messiah.

 

[Matthias]

No he enforces it

Then where is there room for your doubt?

 

[theefaith]

The truth stings, but you really need to hear it! Pagan customs and Christianity do not mix.

examples please?

Pagan means the worship of creation or creatures! When did I ever say to worship creation or creatures but God alone?

In 1531 our lady of Guadalupe appeared in Mexico and 9 million sun worshiping pagans were converted to the holy faith of Jesus Christ after the Protestants in Europe rejected the faith of Christ!

 

[theefaith]

Yeah, so they say. But they still removed scripture, obviously because it didn't suit their idolatrous practises.

Please show me where the church teaches idolatry???