Difference between Catholic and Protestant.

[BreadOfLife]

LOL, I think you are the exception to the general rule of Catholics being respectful in discussion!

I treat ALL liars like I would a spoiled child who refuses to behave.
Why should you be treated ANY differently?

Just for the record – this is how GOD treats liars . . .
Rev. 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and ALL LIARS—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Yes, I think someone told me a while back that Biblical history doesn't go past the 1st century.

That is the lifeline of the RCC, "don't question us, the mighty Church, our account of history is the only history."

It's just proof that the RCC places their "traditions of men" above the words "thus saith the Lord."
You have no proof of Apostolic Succession, and you never will have proof of it.

Us Protestants have no regard whatsoever for your unbiblical church history!

Ummmmmm, yet you cling to the CATHOLIC Tradition of the Canon of Scripture as your “Sole Authority” for your salvation.

What a hypocrite . . .

 

[Charlie24]

I treat ALL liars like I would a spoiled child who refuses to behave.
Why should you be treated ANY differently?

Just for the record – this is how GOD treats liars . . .
Rev. 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and ALL LIARS—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Ummmmmm, yet you cling to the CATHOLIC Tradition of the Canon of Scripture as your “Sole Authority” for your salvation.

What a hypocrite . . .

Oh, I see, the RCC can't burn us at the stake or behead us any longer for disagreeing, so they threaten us with being cast into hell for disagreeing. Sounds about right!

 

[Taken]

a good point
My fave is Jesus and the woman at the well, Jn 4:20 she calls men father and he is silent!!!

And saint Stephen the first martyr acts 7 quotes the patriarch or fathers multiple times over!

There is a difference between CALLING someone “father” and SPEAKING ABOUT “a father”.

 

[Taken]

LOL, I think you are the exception to the general rule of Catholics being respectful in discussion!

Everybody knows...
Crude, rude, arrogant, self-important know it all.

 

[Phoneman777]

the Bible does not have a list!
Never says where one ends and the second begins
The teaching authority of Christ in his church says which is first, second, etc.

Why does it matter? You silly idea that just cos its not stated as the second commandment that it’s somehow ok to have idolatry???

it says no other Gods period!

why does it matter what false Gods exist, there all false and worship of them is forbidden period!

Look, I'm going to post a verse that should settle this once and for all:

Deuteronomy 4:13 KJV

"And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform,
EVEN TEN COMMANDMENTS;
and he wrote them upon two tables of stone."
​

The catechisms eliminated the 2nd forbidding the bowing down to images, and split the 10th into two to make up the deficit.

 

[Dropship]

Logic it out mate, Satan WANTS mugs to think they'll be let out of hell after serving their time..

Soooo – even after having it explained to you TWICE, you STILL don’t get it??
You can’ be that stupid . . .

You've "explained" zilch mate, you've simply fired off a big blunderbuss blast of assorted convoluted verses like a tangled furball..

 

[Dropship]

Your posts get more and more idiotic as you go along because you’re perfectly content to wallow in ignorance.
Just because somebody confesses a sin DOESN’T mean that they are “automatically” forgiven..

Well why do they toddle along to their catholic priest in that confessional box thing?..

 

[Dropship]

..nary a word about bloody Elizabeth the martyr machine

What a dynamic duo Liz and her dad Henry VIII were, they broke that pope bloke's grip on England once and for all..

 

[Dropship]

@Dropship ~ are ya feeling it yet?
You know all the Catholic love BOL pours out...

Yes but luckily nowadays we needn't expect the Inquisition to turn up..

 

[michaelvpardo]

I find it unbelievable that you don’t understand that if NOTHING impure or imperfect can enter something that comes DOWN from Heaven, that the SAME wouldn’t be true for Heaven itself.

Do YOU believe that Heaven is filled with IMPERFECTIONS?
1 Cor. 2:9
But, as it is written, “What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him”

Rev. 21:4
‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[a] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

Does THIS sound like a place of impurity and imperfection??

What an appalling lack of faith you have . . .

Another straw man argument? Really?
I'll just answer your last question from a parallel passage that you seem to have forgotten to read.

Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.And should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, then the rain will not fall on them. And if the people of Egypt will not go up and enter in, then the rain will not fall on them; this will be the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. This will be the punishment of Egypt and of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles."
Zechariah 14:16-19

Does this sound like a place of purity and perfection?

 

[Illuminator]

Another straw man argument? Really?
I'll just answer your last question from a parallel passage that you seem to have forgotten to read.

Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.And should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, then the rain will not fall on them. And if the people of Egypt will not go up and enter in, then the rain will not fall on them; this will be the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. This will be the punishment of Egypt and of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles."
Zechariah 14:16-19

Does this sound like a place of purity and perfection?

You need to read your scripture quotes more carefully because Zechariah is not talking about heaven. The first line says: "...all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem..." How could you miss it?
The doctrine of purgatory began in kernel form with the Jews, not the Catholic Church. But you don't insult the Jews; that would be politically incorrect.

I like Zechariah too.

Zechariah 9:11 As for you also, because of the blood of my covenant with you, I will set your captives free from the waterless pit.

A "waterless pit" can't mean hell because we all know there is no getting out of hell. We all know there are no captives in heaven, so where were the captives???

It's no proof text, but it strongly suggests purgatory.

25 Bible Passages Indicating or Suggesting Purgatory

 

[Taken]

Yes but luckily nowadays we needn't expect the Inquisition to turn up..

Don’t be too sure. They simply, change names, change uniforms and hope to come with bigger arms.

 

[theefaith]

LOL, I think you are the exception to the general rule of Catholics being respectful in discussion!

Yes, I think someone told me a while back that Biblical history doesn't go past the 1st century.

That is the lifeline of the RCC, "don't question us, the mighty Church, our account of history is the only history."

It's just proof that the RCC places their "traditions of men" above the words "thus saith the Lord."

You have no proof of Apostolic Succession, and you never will have proof of it.

Us Protestants have no regard whatsoever for your unbiblical church history!

apostolic succession actsc1:15-26
Mathias succession to Judus!

 

[theefaith]

LOL, I think you are the exception to the general rule of Catholics being respectful in discussion!

Yes, I think someone told me a while back that Biblical history doesn't go past the 1st century.

That is the lifeline of the RCC, "don't question us, the mighty Church, our account of history is the only history."

It's just proof that the RCC places their "traditions of men" above the words "thus saith the Lord."

You have no proof of Apostolic Succession, and you never will have proof of it.

Us Protestants have no regard whatsoever for your unbiblical church history!

spiritual pride causes spiritual anarchy which only produces spiritual chaos and blindness!

we must be taught by Christ in his church by his apostles

Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church for the salvation of all men! (Jn 1:16-17) Christ is the truth! (Jn 14:6) Christ and his church are one!
(Acts 9;4 eph 5:32)
The church is the pillar of truth
(1 Tim 3:15) that must teach all men (Matt 28:19) without error guided by the Holy Spirit
(Jn 16:13) Thru the grace of God in the sanctification of souls applied in the seven sacraments!

 

[Charlie24]

apostolic succession actsc1:15-26
Mathias succession to Judus!

That was done to complete the 12 who were called. The Scripture says these 12 apostles have their names written on the 12 foundations of New Jerusalem. Only 12, theefaith.

That is the end of that.

 

[theefaith]

There is a difference between CALLING someone “father” and SPEAKING ABOUT “a father”.

what difference?

 

[Taken]

what difference?

Seriously?
Speaking directly to a person, calling him ‘father’ IS Calling another person “father”. You know like every time you directly are speaking to one of your Priests and you directly call him “father”, YOU ARE DOING EXACTLY what Scripture says NOT TO DO.

Speaking about another person as a “father”, is NOT directly calling that person “father”.

Why DO YOU call a priest to his face.....”father”?
Does he not have a name?


Matt 23:
[8] But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
[9] And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
[10] Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

 

[theefaith]

Look, I'm going to post a verse that should settle this once and for all:

Deuteronomy 4:13 KJV

"And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform,
EVEN TEN COMMANDMENTS;
and he wrote them upon two tables of stone."
​

The catechisms eliminated the 2nd forbidding the bowing down to images, and split the 10th into two to make up the deficit.

have it your way but the context and content of ex 2:2-6 is one command

do you understand that images are not forbidden but only graven images idols worshiped as a god?

 

[theefaith]

What a dynamic duo Liz and her dad Henry VIII were, they broke that pope bloke's grip on England once and for all..

Now we are praising apostasy and rebellion against Christ and his holy church!

Also praising the murder virgin f true Christians

it is in prophecy England will return to the one true fold of Christ

 

[theefaith]

That was done to complete the 12 who were called. The Scripture says these 12 apostles have their names written on the 12 foundations of New Jerusalem. Only 12, theefaith.

That is the end of that.

where does scripture say so
Timothy is the successor of Paul
Matt 28:18 the nations still need be taught the disciples need baptismal regeneration

Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28 and 1 cor 6:2
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
His authority in governing the church and administering the kingdom!
Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18 Jn 21:17
Lk 22:29
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
Acts 2:42 doctrine of the apostles!
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24
Christ shares His glory! 2 thes 1:10 rev 12:1

The pillar and foundation of TRUTH!
1 Tim 3:15

The TWO EDGE SWORD!
To proclaim the truth! Matt 28:19
To condemn error! 1 cor 16:22

Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church for the salvation of all men! (Jn 1:16-17) Christ is the truth! (Jn 14:6) Christ and his church are one!
(Acts 9;4 eph 5:32)
The church is the pillar of truth
(1 Tim 3:15) that must teach all men (Matt 28:19) without error guided by the Holy Spirit
(Jn 16:13) Thru the grace of God in the sanctification of souls applied in the seven sacraments!

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42
1 Tim 3:15

Fundamentalism drives a wedge between Christ and his church, separates Christ from His kingdom, and the authority of Christ from the new covenant!

1 Corinthians 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema

Extends to the truth and the church

Cos Christ is the truth and His church teaches the truth without error! Jn 14:6 matt 28:19 matt 18:17 1 Tim 3:15 Jn 29:21-23 Jn 16:13

Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32

Authority of the Apostles!

What authority does Christ have?
What power does Christ have?
What mission / ministry does Christ have?

Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission! Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!

John 17:18
As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

The apostles are Christ’s successors!
They have authority to send others as well, apostle means one who is sent!

Therefore the apostles have authority to send more apostles or successors!
Apostolic succession!

The nations still need to be taught, disciples still need to be baptized and the church the new covenant kingdom of christ still needs to be governed!

Hebrews 3:1
Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

Christ is an apostle, and has authority to send other apostles, the apostles also have this authority, so the apostles continue down thru the centuries as Christ promised! Matt 28:19-20

Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18 matt 28:19 Isa 22:21-22

Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors, and Interpreting scripture.

Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.

Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments

The apostles teaching is Christ’s teaching, Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4

Christian rule of faith is not the Bible alone! But the doctrine of the apostles! Acts 2:42

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20