Difference between Catholic and Protestant.

[Wrangler]

In the case of statues of saints, they help us honor or venerate them

I tend to side with the RCC regarding statues. Being a history buff, I enjoy learning and being reminded of history.

My nondenominational church does annual ‘stations’ of the cross at the time of lent. I don’t see any problem honoring others, provided you don’t worship them, as you said.

This is IMO a petty complaint The big division is the RCC usurping Christ’s role on Earth. Mary Mog cannot easily differentiate the Body of Christ from the RCC.

 

[theefaith]

"I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I (Jesus) am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

NOT PETER

that’s different from the the keys of the kingdom Isa 22:21-22 Matt 16:18-19

just as Christ is the rock of salvation but not the rock on which the church is built cos he is the only builder!! Matt 16:18-19

 

[theefaith]

So, Mary fled with the child Jesus AFTER Jesus "caught up to God and to His throne"?

...because it says the woman (church) fled into the wilderness AFTER Jesus was caught up there...in the book of Acts...when the disciples saw Him go up as they stood there gazing at Him.

who is the child?

 

[theefaith]

I guess that you don’t believe the Bible?

• [John 6:39] "This is the will of him who sent me: that I should lose none of those he has given me but should raise them up on the last day."
• [John 6:44] "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up on the last day."
• [present tense, not future]
  • [Acts of the Apostles 15:11] "On the contrary, we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus in the same way they are."
    
  • [Ephesians 2:5] "made us alive with Christ even though we were dead in trespasses. You are saved by grace!"
    
  • [Ephesians 2:8] "For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God's gift "
    
  • [Hebrews 10:39] "But we are not those who draw back and are destroyed, but those who have faith and are saved."

the first two have to do with Christ not rejecting us and not us rejecting or remaining faithful to him
The rest refer to redemption and baptismal regeneration

 

[theefaith]

I guess that you don’t believe the Bible?

• [John 6:39] "This is the will of him who sent me: that I should lose none of those he has given me but should raise them up on the last day."
• [John 6:44] "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up on the last day."
• [present tense, not future]
  • [Acts of the Apostles 15:11] "On the contrary, we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus in the same way they are."
    
  • [Ephesians 2:5] "made us alive with Christ even though we were dead in trespasses. You are saved by grace!"
    
  • [Ephesians 2:8] "For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God's gift "
    
  • [Hebrews 10:39] "But we are not those who draw back and are destroyed, but those who have faith and are saved."

eph 2:8 who’s faith?

and what does quickened mean?

Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

 

[Naomanos]

how being outside the ark of salvation (holy mother church) are you to have you’re sins forgiven, you’re new church (sect) only admits two sacraments and confession of sins not being one of them?

At you have Mary for you’re mother and can come to her throne of grace! Heb 4:16

My answer going forward:

I have made my peace with God about it and God has granted me peace about my decision. If He granted me peace, I have obviously worked in concert with Him. The devil doesn't give peace the way that God does.

 

[theefaith]

I tend to side with the RCC regarding statues. Being a history buff, I enjoy learning and being reminded of history.

My nondenominational church does annual ‘stations’ of the cross at the time of lent. I don’t see any problem honoring others, provided you don’t worship them, as you said.

This is IMO a petty complaint The big division is the RCC usurping Christ’s role on Earth. Mary Mog cannot easily differentiate the Body of Christ from the RCC.

how is it usurping Christ role?

did not Christ appoint his kingdom to the church of the apostles?

Luke 22:29

Is not obedience to his appointed ministers obedience to Christ?

 

[BreadOfLife]

I realize that no one knows my "battles" on other forums. However, they happened and I am not going to do it again. I didn't air a grievance. I simply and most certainly did list one single reason why I left. That wasn't a grievance so much as this is why. I also stated that I hold no ill will towards the Catholic church and it has its place in the world. I am not arguing that people should not join the Catholic church if they so choose to do so. I am not going to stay in a church when I disagree with it. As I said, that makes me a hypocrite. So, I left.

Maybe in your haste to "battle" other people, you are losing sight that not all who left the Catholic church hold no ill will against it.

I didn’t say you held “ill will” against the Church.

I simply stated a proven fact:
That EVERYBODY who leaves the Catholic Church does so because they are ignorant of its teachings.

If you don’t want to talk about it – that’s fine.
But, I know the reason is because you don’t want to be exposed.

 

[theefaith]

My answer going forward:

I have made my peace with God about it and God has granted me peace about my decision. If He granted me peace, I have obviously worked in concert with Him. The devil doesn't give peace the way that God does.

there is no worship in you’re chosen sect!
No temple
No ark of the new covenant
No priests
No propitiatory sacrifice
And no sacraments

the sacraments are the means of grace and mercy!

Sacraments instituted by Christ for the salvation of souls!

It’s not a do it yourself religion!
It’s not a bible study!

It’s a covenant!

Not by “faith alone”
“Faith alone” aint biblical!

You may think “Accept Jesus Christ as you personal Lord and savior” is biblical but there is no such verse in your bible!

Faith and the sacraments in the church founded by the authority Christ on Peter and the apostles is biblical! Matt 16:18-19 Jn 20:21 eph 2:20

Faith and baptism is the biblical initiation into the new covenant and member is Christ and His holy church!

Psalm 51 Ez 36:25-27 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

You cannot enter a covenant by “faith alone” must be a ritual outward sign!

2 Peter 1:11
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

The Christian sacrament of baptism is the Initiation into the new covenant and must be ministered to you by the apostles!

Faith and baptism! Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

Merits of christ’s passion, death, and precious blood are applied in the sacraments! Jn 1:16

Colossians 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Rom 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

1 pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Heb 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Romans 5:5
And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Lk 1: 72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

There is only one true church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles and their successors is the new covenant body of Christ! Matt 1:18 & Jn 10:16 one fold

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Christ and His church are one: acts 9 why persecute me?

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Sacraments are the fruit of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ!

The holy sacrifice of Christ, His passion, blood, and death producing unlimited fruits of divine grace, actual and sanctifying grace! Jn 1:29 Jn 1:16-17 Jn 10:10
And they are applied to our souls in the church by faith and the seven sacraments!

“This promise” (sacred oath of God or sacrament) of the Father acts 2:38-39 with reference to ez 36:25-27 Also a mystery Mk 4:11 Eph 5:32 eph 6:19 1 Tim 3:9 3:16 Col 1:27 2:2 4:3

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Jn 3:5 born again by water and the spirit.

Heb 7:21 For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec
(Oath = sacrament)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Based on Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:


A promise is a sacred oath or sacrament!
Baptismal regeneration is the promise of the Father for union in the new covenant!

The church and the seven sacraments are necessary for salvation

Better covenant on better promises

2 Timothy 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,

Life of supernatural grace merited by Christ in His passion and death!

An oath to sacramental life in the new covenant in union with the mediator and communion with God, and the saints!

Promise of the Father acts 2:23-39
Promise is an oath and an oath is a sacrament! This promise of the sacrament of baptism refers to ez. 36:25-27

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark all died and outside the church there is no salvation!)

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by baptism!

Jn 1:5-5 abide in Him, apart from Him you can do nothing.

Jn 10:10 life, (grace more abundantly)
Jn 1: 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

Jn 1:16-17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
(Thru faith and the sacraments!)










God provides for everything:
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

He is the way we must follow!
He is the truth we must believe!
He is the life, life of grace thru the sacraments of the church in which we must live!

Abide in Christ and His church with grace and life provided by God thru the sacraments!

Sacramental life: Jn 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. Jn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Baptism: (initiation into the covenant)
Mk 16:16 Jn 3:5
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

The Eucharist: (holy communion)
Mt 26:26-39 Jn 6:51-58 1 Cor 11:23-25

Confession of sins:
Jn 20:23 / 1 Jn 1:9 / 2 cor 5:18

Confirmation
Lk 22:32 acts 8:14-17
acts 14:22

Marriage:
Matt 19:4-6

Holy orders: (priesthood)
Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru His priesthood in Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 10:1-8 Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21-22 acts 1:17 acts 6:4 acts 8:26
2 Cor 5:18 1 Tim 4:14 Eph 2:20

Extreme unction: (anointing with oil)
1 Tim 4:14 James 5:14

The ark of salvation: one, holy, catholic, (universal) and apostolic church founded by Jesus Christ on Peter and the apostles!

 

[BreadOfLife]

Indeed. I agree with you. Christ gave His church authority, and the gifts of the Spirit. But not yours. Your church began well. It was apostolic. In the first century. But after Constantine made Christianity the state religion, and mixed his pagan beliefs with Christian beliefs, the church descended into a long slide into apostasy and sin. It became a church founded on tradition as opposed to scripture, teaching as commandments the doctrine of man, which evolved into a round of sacramentalism and ritualism that now absolutely no resemblance to the church in it's purity of the first century. That decline didn't happen overnight. And it didn't happen everywhere where there were churches established by the apostles and their emissaries. But it did happen in Rome. And it did happen in Alexandria.

The faith that Christians strive for today is based on the faith once delivered to the saints of the church in the wilderness, and in those places that for centuries was unaffected by the situation in Europe. Iona for example and the church and mission schools established by Columbanus, who for decades along with his students dedicated themselves to reproducing the scriptures in their native tongue.

The church of the east who inherited the scriptures from Antioch, not Rome. Who were established by missionaries from Asia, India, having no connection or desire to submit to papal authority, but had Christ as their Head, and converted millions of pagans to Christianity throughout the east as far as China, Japan, and the Philippines, centuries before any Catholics set foot in their land.

From whence suppose you that the children of Genghis Khan received their faith? From Rome? Never!

YOU are under the false and revisionist impression that Jesus established more than ONE Church. There is no Church OF Rome and Church OF Antioch and Church OF Alexandria, etc.

There is ONE Church IN Rome and IN Antioch and IN Alexandria, etc.
Jesus guaranteed that this ONE Church that He built would never succumb to darkness (Matt. 16:18) and that the Holy Spirit would guide this Church to ALL Truth (John 116:12-15).

The very SAME Church that YOU claim succumbed to the gates of Hell in the early 4th century declared the Canon of Scripture that YOU and ALL of Christendom adhere to under the guidance of the Holy Spirit lter that same century.

YOUR problem is that you expected that there would be NO evil people within the Church – when Jesus and Paul BOTH warned of this. You need to trust in the promises of your LORD instead of the bizarre ravings of a false 19th century prophetess like Ellen White.

It's NOT a lack of Authority - it's a lack of faith on YOUR part . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Absolutely true. Such a pity that you can't see that.

Ummmm, I’m NOT the one following the false prophetess, Ellen White - or ANY other man-made sect after the 16th century.
YOU are . . .

MY Church was established by Jesus Christ some 2000 years ago.

 

[Daydreamer]

Ummmm, I’m NOT the one following the false prophetess, Ellen White - or ANY other man-made sect after the 16th century.
YOU are . . .

MY Church was established by Jesus Christ some 2000 years ago.

But does your church reflect the church of 2000 years ago? One of your members told me yesterday a person can receive the Holy Spirit as the disciples did at pentecost and speak in tongues in an unsaved state. Is that scriptural?

 

[BreadOfLife]

It ain't some Sun worshiping, child rapist, globalist pedophile headquarters in Rome, either....because the "REMNANT CHURCH" of Revelation "keeps the commandments of God" which Jesus set forth in the beginning, while the Roman Catholic church maniacally boasts it has the power to "change times, abrogate laws, and dispense with all things, EVEN THE PRECEPTS OF CHRIST".

The penalty suffered by an adulterous woman was stoning, but if she was the DAUGHTER OF A PRIEST, she was "burned with fire". The Whore of Babylon will burn with unquenchable fire.

You’re absolutely correct.
Your pedophilic SDA cult is NOT headquartered in Rome . . .

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Adventist Pastor Accused of Sexual Abuse in Office - Courthouse News

Woman claims Seventh Day Adventists failed to protect her from sex .

 

[Naomanos]

If you don’t want to talk about it – that’s fine.
But, I know the reason is because you don’t want to be exposed.

You know what they say about assumptions?

 

[Naomanos]

there is no worship in you’re chosen sect!
No temple
No ark of the new covenant
No priests
No propitiatory sacrifice
And no sacraments

the sacraments are the means of grace and mercy!

Sacraments instituted by Christ for the salvation of souls!

It’s not a do it yourself religion!
It’s not a bible study!

It’s a covenant!

Not by “faith alone”
“Faith alone” aint biblical!

You may think “Accept Jesus Christ as you personal Lord and savior” is biblical but there is no such verse in your bible!

Faith and the sacraments in the church founded by the authority Christ on Peter and the apostles is biblical! Matt 16:18-19 Jn 20:21 eph 2:20

Faith and baptism is the biblical initiation into the new covenant and member is Christ and His holy church!

Psalm 51 Ez 36:25-27 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

You cannot enter a covenant by “faith alone” must be a ritual outward sign!

2 Peter 1:11
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

The Christian sacrament of baptism is the Initiation into the new covenant and must be ministered to you by the apostles!

Faith and baptism! Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

Merits of christ’s passion, death, and precious blood are applied in the sacraments! Jn 1:16

Colossians 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Rom 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

1 pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Heb 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Romans 5:5
And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Lk 1: 72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

There is only one true church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles and their successors is the new covenant body of Christ! Matt 1:18 & Jn 10:16 one fold

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Christ and His church are one: acts 9 why persecute me?

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Sacraments are the fruit of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ!

The holy sacrifice of Christ, His passion, blood, and death producing unlimited fruits of divine grace, actual and sanctifying grace! Jn 1:29 Jn 1:16-17 Jn 10:10
And they are applied to our souls in the church by faith and the seven sacraments!

“This promise” (sacred oath of God or sacrament) of the Father acts 2:38-39 with reference to ez 36:25-27 Also a mystery Mk 4:11 Eph 5:32 eph 6:19 1 Tim 3:9 3:16 Col 1:27 2:2 4:3

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Jn 3:5 born again by water and the spirit.

Heb 7:21 For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec
(Oath = sacrament)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Based on Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:


A promise is a sacred oath or sacrament!
Baptismal regeneration is the promise of the Father for union in the new covenant!

The church and the seven sacraments are necessary for salvation

Better covenant on better promises

2 Timothy 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,

Life of supernatural grace merited by Christ in His passion and death!

An oath to sacramental life in the new covenant in union with the mediator and communion with God, and the saints!

Promise of the Father acts 2:23-39
Promise is an oath and an oath is a sacrament! This promise of the sacrament of baptism refers to ez. 36:25-27

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark all died and outside the church there is no salvation!)

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by baptism!

Jn 1:5-5 abide in Him, apart from Him you can do nothing.

Jn 10:10 life, (grace more abundantly)
Jn 1: 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

Jn 1:16-17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
(Thru faith and the sacraments!)










God provides for everything:
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

He is the way we must follow!
He is the truth we must believe!
He is the life, life of grace thru the sacraments of the church in which we must live!

Abide in Christ and His church with grace and life provided by God thru the sacraments!

Sacramental life: Jn 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. Jn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Baptism: (initiation into the covenant)
Mk 16:16 Jn 3:5
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

The Eucharist: (holy communion)
Mt 26:26-39 Jn 6:51-58 1 Cor 11:23-25

Confession of sins:
Jn 20:23 / 1 Jn 1:9 / 2 cor 5:18

Confirmation
Lk 22:32 acts 8:14-17
acts 14:22

Marriage:
Matt 19:4-6

Holy orders: (priesthood)
Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru His priesthood in Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 10:1-8 Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21-22 acts 1:17 acts 6:4 acts 8:26
2 Cor 5:18 1 Tim 4:14 Eph 2:20

Extreme unction: (anointing with oil)
1 Tim 4:14 James 5:14

The ark of salvation: one, holy, catholic, (universal) and apostolic church founded by Jesus Christ on Peter and the apostles!

My answer going forward:

I have made my peace with God about it and God has granted me peace about my decision. If He granted me peace, I have obviously worked in concert with Him. The devil doesn't give peace the way that God does.

 

[Naomanos]

You may think “Accept Jesus Christ as you personal Lord and savior” is biblical but there is no such verse in your bible!

I will comment on the above.

I did no such thing. I still go to a liturgical church. No alter calls. No accepting Christ as my personal lord and savior.

Not all who leave the Catholic church go to a non-liturgical church.

 

[BreadOfLife]

But does your church reflect the church of 2000 years ago? One of your members told me yesterday a person can receive the Holy Spirit as the disciples did at pentecost and speak in tongues in an unsaved state. Is that scriptural?

Show me where the Catholic Church teaches this instead of taking the word of your friend.

This is the problem with anti-Catholics.
You guys listen to gossip instead of going to the SOURCE.

Do you do that with EVERY aspect of your life – or ONLY as it pertains to things you dislike?

 

[Daydreamer]

Show me where the Catholic Church teaches this instead of taking the word of your friend.

This is the problem with anti-Catholics.
You guys listen to gossip instead of going to the SOURCE.

Do you do that with EVERY aspect of your life – or ONLY as it pertains to things you dislike?

I just told you what a catholic who is not my friend told me on this website yesterday. I just asked you if you thought it was biblical. Anyway, as you appear to believe it is not biblical, I guess you accept a person can be placed in a saved state without firstly being baptised in water. Thanks for clarifying

 

[Taken]

That EVERYBODY who leaves the Catholic Church does so because they are ignorant of its teachings.

EVERYBODY?
Uh, Pretty sure some left because they were not ignorant of its hiding and rewarding child molesters.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I just told you what a catholic who is not my friend told me on this website yesterday. I just asked you if you thought it was biblical. Anyway, as you appear to believe it is not biblical, I guess you accept a person can be placed in a saved state without firstly being baptised in water. Thanks for clarifying

No – I never said that because that’s NOT what Jesus taught.

Mark 16:16
Whoever believes and is BAPTIZED will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

John 3:5
Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of Water and the Spirit.