God LAUGHS at the trinity

[ScottA]

So what does it say about the trinitarians who can't even explain it? I guess that means the trinitarians are being laughed at by their own god? If someone were to ask 10 trinitarians how it work, they're liable to get an equal amount of different answers, my personal favorite being "you just have to accept it on faith because it's a mystery".

If the trinity doctrine is biblical, then how come there isn't a single trinitarian in the history of professing Christianity that has ever coherently or logically explain with the Bible how it works? How does it make sense to tell someone they are dumb because they can't fathom the trinity when the same people who believe it can't even fathom it?

The difficulty is not in the subject matter, but in the individual--many, many individuals.

If I say Me, Myself, and I...there is no "mystery." And if I say I am son, father, and Captain...there is no "mystery."

But if God speaks of Himself in the same way in that higher way of His...He [figuratively] looses many who go faint with "mystery." Go figure.​

So...believe or don't. That has always been the simple answer.

 

[GISMYS_7]

Believe AND UNDERSTAND God's Word!!
All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the """Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit""", teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age (Matthew 28:18-20)

 

[GEN2REV]

you are accusing little children of believing what they have been told by God Himself (introducing three with the power of God

Only ONE has the power. Not three. (Matthew 28:18) KJV uses "Power" not authority.

it might bring a smile to God...but not a laugh.

God laughs at the trinity doctrine. Not at New Christians. He knows who is responsible for the lies.

 

[GEN2REV]

At least you're not denying the Cross, that is when you get yourself into trouble.

Me personally, or anybody in general?

I've never denied the Cross.

 

[GEN2REV]

If I say Me, Myself, and I...there is no "mystery." And if I say I am son, father, and Captain...there is no "mystery."

But if God speaks of Himself in the same way in that higher way of His...He [figuratively] looses many who go faint with "mystery." Go figure.​

People always want to simplify with examples like this, but they are not the same as the official definition of the trinity at all.

The official definition is that God is 3 separate, different, persons.

Not 3 characteristics. Not 3 aspects. Not 3 expressions, etc.

This is why every person who embraces and accepts the trinity doctrine has a different explanation, or definition, to help themselves understand it. They are all confused.

And most don't even know the official definition - it isn't preached or taught because of how confusing it is. It doesn't inspire confidence in the concept at all for those who are struggling to understand it.​

 

[GEN2REV]

Believe AND UNDERSTAND God's Word!!
All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the """Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit""", teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age (Matthew 28:18-20)

The proper word there is power and it is very significant because it doesn't add up with the rest of Scripture as a whole in support of a trinity.

And after that verse you keep quoting, all of the Apostles went forth and baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ.

Hmm ... wonder why that was.

Should we believe that one errant verse by itself, within the 31,000 in Scripture, or should we believe the many records of baptism that came after that, performed with a totally different prescription?

 

[Enoch111]

"you just have to accept it on faith because it's a mystery".

And that is the "God honest" truth. Just like you and almost everyone on earth cannot explain Quantum Physics, no man on earth can explain the Trinity. You either believe it and be saved, or reject it and be damned.

How does anyone explain that photons and electrons are both particles and waves, and that matter and energy are interchangeable?

"Is It a Wave or a Particle? It's Both, Sort Of."

 

[Wrangler]

no man on earth can explain the Trinity.

If so, no responsible person has any business advocating, as true, such nonsensical idolatry. It’s an Appeal to Ignorance.

You either believe it and be saved, or reject it and be damned.

Romans 10:9 says you have to deny the trinity to be saved; you have to believe God (in his unitarian nature) raised Jesus from the dead as a condition to be saved. I'll go with Scripture and not what you say Scripture says.

 

[marks]

I have not targeted any one individual. Just a group of malcontents. And I was speaking about how God views them. If God calls atheists "fools" then surely He would call Trinity rejecters "idiots".

"Fool" is the Biblical terminology, those who deny God to their own hurt. And if Jesus is in fact our Creator God, then how close to atheism is denying that truth?

Much love!

 

[marks]

And that is the "God honest" truth. Just like you and almost everyone on earth cannot explain Quantum Physics, no man on earth can explain the Trinity. You either believe it and be saved, or reject it and be damned.

How does anyone explain that photons and electrons are both particles and waves, and that matter and energy are interchangeable?

"Is It a Wave or a Particle? It's Both, Sort Of."

There are many things people cannot understand or explain. Gravity. Quantum entanglement. On we could go.

It's not a valid argument. All these Trinity/Deity debates, so filled with invalid arguments, fallacies, on and on it goes.

Much love!

 

[BeyondET]

The older, more accurate, versions of Scripture use the word power where your posted verse uses authority.

If Jesus has ALL POWER in heaven and earth (which He does), that makes Him God Almighty (not equal to God because Jesus has All Power). If Jesus is God Almighty (which He is), the trinity extra-biblical suggestion falls completely apart.

The trinitarians claim that Jesus is God only in the sense of a 3-person triunity, but God is not 3-persons. And Jesus is still God Almighty.

The Bible is crystal clear on that.

All is alot, would that leave God with no power? If Jesus has it all then God can't have any unless there is a verse that states God has some power still.

Who to make of all is it all to One or not?

 

[Enoch111]

All is alot, would that leave God with no power? If Jesus has it all then God can't have any unless there is a verse that states God has some power still.

More HUMANISTIC thinking which is trying to grasp things beyond human understanding. Even Job had a better grasp of the truth.

 

[RLT63]

Just as God laughs at the wicked, seeing that their day is coming (Psalms 37:13), He laughs at the silly notion of being a trio.

His entire Word, from Genesis to Revelation, reveals over and over His sole and sovereign nature.

The concept of the trinity is a heretical, counterfeit, image of God Almighty. To embrace it, envision it during prayer, and commit oneself to such a belief is to pay sincere homage to a blasphemous idol. It is idol worship in its purest form.

All those who accept and embrace the completely extra-biblical doctrine of the trinity will be lost. And that is why it is such a coveted, and fiercely guarded, doctrine of modern mainstream heretical christendom. It is of the devil.

Read your Bible.

Hosea 4:6
2 Thessalonians 2:10

Colossians 2:9

 

[Wrangler]

There are many things people cannot understand or expain.

No responsible person has any business advocating, as true, such nonsensical idolatry of what they cannot understand or expain. It’s an Appeal to Ignorance.

 

[Wrangler]

More HUMANISTIC thinking which is trying to grasp things beyond human understanding.

Trinitarians confuse what we don't understand yet to jibberish, what is not understandable. Big difference.

Trinitarianism is inherently contradictory, inherently not understandable. Contradictions do not exist in reality but trinitarians assert they do.

 

[RLT63]

Just as God laughs at the wicked, seeing that their day is coming (Psalms 37:13), He laughs at the silly notion of being a trio.

His entire Word, from Genesis to Revelation, reveals over and over His sole and sovereign nature.

The concept of the trinity is a heretical, counterfeit, image of God Almighty. To embrace it, envision it during prayer, and commit oneself to such a belief is to pay sincere homage to a blasphemous idol. It is idol worship in its purest form.

All those who accept and embrace the completely extra-biblical doctrine of the trinity will be lost. And that is why it is such a coveted, and fiercely guarded, doctrine of modern mainstream heretical christendom. It is of the devil.

Read your Bible.

Hosea 4:6
2 Thessalonians 2:10

This is a hostile attack on the beliefs of mainstream Christians and not an attempt to have meaningful dialogue.

 

[RLT63]

The older, more accurate, versions of Scripture use the word power where your posted verse uses authority.

If Jesus has ALL POWER in heaven and earth (which He does), that makes Him God Almighty (not equal to God because Jesus has All Power). If Jesus is God Almighty (which He is), the trinity extra-biblical suggestion falls completely apart.

The trinitarians claim that Jesus is God only in the sense of a 3-person triunity, but God is not 3-persons. And Jesus is still God Almighty.

The Bible is crystal clear on that.

So do you believe Jesus is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit?

 

[ScottA]

Only ONE has the power. Not three. (Matthew 28:18) KJV uses "Power" not authority.God laughs at the trinity doctrine. Not at New Christians. He knows who is responsible for the lies.

You are referring to the words (which are confused by God). I was not, but rather that all the would-be three who are actually One (which I said) have power over life and death--which is proof of being God.

The laughing and the trinity have become a pet peeve with you.

 

[ScottA]

People always want to simplify with examples like this, but they are not the same as the official definition of the trinity at all.

The official definition is that God is 3 separate, different, persons.

Not 3 characteristics. Not 3 aspects. Not 3 expressions, etc.

This is why every person who embraces and accepts the trinity doctrine has a different explanation, or definition, to help themselves understand it. They are all confused.

And most don't even know the official definition - it isn't preached or taught because of how confusing it is. It doesn't inspire confidence in the concept at all for those who are struggling to understand it.​

A child gives a dog the name "Spot" because it has a spot. If children likewise give God names because He shows up differently and even introduces Himself as different, there is no error. But as you say, it is not "three persons", but One God.

 

[GEN2REV]

no man on earth can explain the Trinity. You either believe it and be saved, or reject it and be damned.

How have I missed that verse? Where does it say that?