The Light
Well-Known Member
Here is the error which is common for those that believe in a pretrib rapture. You think the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 which I'll post is the coming of Jesus in Zechariah 14.Let me do this in full one last time, you do not pay attention in full at times. You guys who allow single verses to sway you an inordinate amount never ever use the full bible like you should.
Zechariah 14:1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. (This is the Anti-Christ who SACKS Israel/Jerusalem at the 1260)
{{{ We then see a 3.5 year JUMP with one word........THEN........THEN.........THEN the Lord (Jesus) shall go forth and fight those nations who defeated Israel. He lands on he Mt. of Olives. }}}
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
BUT.........you can't grasp the very same thing in Matt. 24:29-30 ABOVE, verse 2 happens in the exact Middle of the week THEN Jesus returns, BELOW:
Matt. 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: (Satan is cast down to Earth at the 1260 middle of the week, read Rev. 12 and Dan. 12:1-2)
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven(AND THEN Jesus returns, just like in Zechariah 14:3): and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
So, in Zechariah 14:2 we see Israel sacked at the 1260 and THEN the Lord (Jesus) returns. In Matt. 24:29 we are told the exact same thing, IMMEDIATLY AFTER the Tribulation of those days start we see the Sun and Moon go Dark, we KNOW this event happens in the exact middle of the week by reading the bible !! And THEN..........THEN.............THEN Jesus returns. You take the Sun and Moon reference about IMMEDIATLY AFTER and Jump to the telling of Jesus Second Coming to mean IMMEDIATLY AFTER the troubles start, which is the middle of the week AS PROVED by the Sun and Moon going dark, which we know happens in the middle of the week go read Rev. 8 !! Good grief man. In both Zechariah 14:3 and in Matt. 24:30 we get a 3.5 year JUMP AHEAD. That is why not being called unto Prophesy places one at a disadvantage, you have to understand how it works brother. It boggles my mind that men actually think the reference to Jesus Return is IMMEDIATELY AFTER when that is only referring to the Sun and Moon going dark. Astonishing lack of comprehension on that which is very evident. We all know when the Sun and Moon goes dark. We also know when Satan is cast to earth. At the 1260.
Matthew 24
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Jesus does NOT set His feet on the mount of Olives during this coming. He sends angels to gather the elect from the earth. He has come for the seed of the woman. When Satan goes after the woman, she flees to a place of protection. Then the dragon goes after the seed of the woman who now believe in the Messiah as he cannot get to the woman.
Revelation 12
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
I know that you think you got this, but you don't. Jesus and John are telling you the exact same thing. And you use that to understand the tribulation is over before the wrath of God begins. Until you forget all this "the seals are nothing" nonsense, there is not a chance you will understand.
Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Jesus returns at the 6th seal, immediately after the tribulation the cosmic signs happen and the wrath of God begins after the second harvest. Who do you think those 144,000 are? 5,000,000 Jew because that's what you think or are they 144,000 first fruits of the next harvest as the Word says.