WAKE UP!!! Church pastors we are living in the days of the very near rapture!

[David in NJ]

Lying signs and wonders does mean a false christ/god can create a false rapture. Denial only makes it the more possible.

It's called the 'Thomas Syndrome'

Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came.
The other disciples therefore said to him, “We have seen the Lord.”
So he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Forgiveness??? for telling you the Truth = lol

Your words Brother = compare your words to Christ's words = you have said vs He has said

However, if you are blinded by the pre-trib rapture lie then you will not SEE until the MoB is knocking at your doorstep.

your opinion on the truth.

You satill have failed to show any fake rapture by Satan. Only vague innuendos and possibilities. How can you accuse me of believing a lie when you have yet to show the truth?

What is MOB?

 

[David in NJ]

your opinion on the truth.

You satill have failed to show any fake rapture by Satan. Only vague innuendos and possibilities. How can you accuse me of believing a lie when you have yet to show the truth?

What is MOB?

i just follow the clear instruction & warnings given by our LORD and the Apostles

Jesus clearly said: "
At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible. See, I have told you in advance.

So if they tell you, ‘There He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.

The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,

Who are we to say otherwise!!!

Pay close attention to what our LORD said = it does not have to be millions of people dissappearing in a flash.
It, most likely, will come in small groups, reportings, fake news and so on = from within the many apostate churches as well....

Pre-trib rapture is the false prophet playground in most Christians heads today.

 

[bbyrd009]

It's called the 'Thomas Syndrome'

Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came.
The other disciples therefore said to him, “We have seen the Lord.”
So he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”

never hurts to remem that Thomas was under explicit instructions from Jesus to not be buying any sightings tho :)

Pre-trib rapture is the false prophet playground in most Christians heads today.

or "rapture" from harpazo, period

 

[bbyrd009]

 

[David in NJ]

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i like this
but you have one major thing wrong = no one is in the grave saying Jesus is Coming.......they are either with Him or not

When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed

 

[ewq1938]

What is MOB?

Mark of the beast.

 

[The Light]

This is called a red herring fallacy, basically changing the subject. You added a second going concept to the other passage and you should address that.

This is called a roundabout Pluto. Basically roundabout the time I pass Pluto you will realize the rapture has come.

 

[ewq1938]

This is called a roundabout Pluto.

More like a roundabout to avoid the fact that you are adding another GOING to the passage we discussed so you can claim Christ comes from heaven to Earth, then goes back to heaven which no scripture supports.

 

[The Light]

More like a roundabout to avoid the fact that you are adding another GOING to the passage we discussed so you can claim Christ comes from heaven to Earth, then goes back to heaven which no scripture supports.

Or maybe that He was going to His Fathers house where there are many mansions so that when He returns, He can receive us that where He is that we may be also.

The only one doing any avoiding is YE. Why would I need to avoid? The fact is clearly written in the scripture. The FACT that you do not believe that He is coming in an hour that you think not, does not change the fact that He will.

 

[ewq1938]

Or maybe that He was going to His Fathers house where there are many mansions so that when He returns, He can receive us that where He is that we may be also.

Again, that is not what the passage says in the proper order. It says he would go, then he speaks of his return, and then NOTHING about going back. He only says he returns and we shall be where he IS, which places him at the Earth.

 

[The Light]

Again, that is not what the passage says in the proper order. It says he would go, then he speaks of his return, and then NOTHING about going back. He only says he returns and we shall be where he IS, which places him at the Earth.

Please. Where is he going? To His fathers house, that where he goes, we may be also. Cut and dried. Simple

 

[Ronald Nolette]

i just follow the clear instruction & warnings given by our LORD and the Apostles

Jesus clearly said: "
At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible. See, I have told you in advance.

So if they tell you, ‘There He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.

The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,

Who are we to say otherwise!!!

Pay close attention to what our LORD said = it does not have to be millions of people dissappearing in a flash.
It, most likely, will come in small groups, reportings, fake news and so on = from within the many apostate churches as well....

Pre-trib rapture is the false prophet playground in most Christians heads today.

But you are saying otherwise! You are saying He is coming by taking millions of people of the earth, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye! But you have no shown a biblical passage supporting this very specific act.

 

[David in NJ]

But you are saying otherwise! You are saying He is coming by taking millions of people of the earth, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye! But you have no shown a biblical passage supporting this very specific act.

Look at my post = i never said millions disappear.

Jesus is warning us that there will be great (counterfeit) signs and wonders deceiving people, including many church-going 'christians' who are looking for a pre-trib rapture.

a "wonder" here is something that is unexplainable and/or awe-inspiring and/or mesmerizing to the audience

Remember = "not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven"

Matthew 25: 1-13

Peace

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Look at my post = i never said millions disappear.

Jesus is warning us that there will be great (counterfeit) signs and wonders deceiving people, including many church-going 'christians' who are looking for a pre-trib rapture.

a "wonder" here is something that is unexplainable and/or awe-inspiring and/or mesmerizing to the audience

Remember = "not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven"

Matthew 25: 1-13

Peace

YOu said a fake rapture., NOw are you back tracking? do you even know what happens at the rapture? You have yet to show one shred of biblical support for a counterfeit rapture.

 

[David in NJ]

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YOu said a fake rapture., NOw are you back tracking? do you even know what happens at the rapture? You have yet to show one shred of biblical support for a counterfeit rapture.

id a fake rapture., NOw are you back tracking? do you even know what happens at the rapture? You have yet to show one shred of biblical support for a counterfeit rapture.

the Lord Jesus said 'fake'

definitions for 'fake'

fake:​

1.) not true, real, or genuine, made in imitation of something else with intent to deceive​

2.) : not true, real, or genuine : counterfeit, sham, insincere, feigned

3.) a device or apparatus used by a magician/sorcerer to achieve the illusion of magic in a trick = sorcery

4.) a simulated movement in a sports contest (such as a pretended kick, pass, or jump or a quick movement in one direction before going in another) designed to deceive an opponent

 

[Ronald Nolette]

the Lord Jesus said 'fake'

definitions for 'fake'

fake:​

1.) not true, real, or genuine, made in imitation of something else with intent to deceive​

2.) : not true, real, or genuine : counterfeit, sham, insincere, feigned

3.) a device or apparatus used by a magician/sorcerer to achieve the illusion of magic in a trick = sorcery

4.) a simulated movement in a sports contest (such as a pretended kick, pass, or jump or a quick movement in one direction before going in another) designed to deceive an opponent

Then show me the verse where Jesus said Satan would perform a fake rapture!

 

[David in NJ]

Then show me the verse where Jesus said Satan would perform a fake rapture!

Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came. 25The other disciples therefore said to him, “We have seen the Lord.”

So he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came. 25The other disciples therefore said to him, “We have seen the Lord.”

So he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”

So are you telling me that you are preaching a fake rapture that is not in the Word of god and using this as a defense to not produce biblical evidence for this supposed fake rapture?

 

[David in NJ]

So are you telling me that you are preaching a fake rapture that is not in the Word of god and using this as a defense to not produce biblical evidence for this supposed fake rapture?

Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
Matt 13:13