Abortion

[Taken]

The matter however rests with God and not with mankind. The manifestation is not life any more than the stones are the temple--God is life. His manifestation is a mere image of revelation--that the man of sin should be revealed.

Sounds like you are saying the whole point of man-kind is to reveal rejection of God....If not perhaps you could elaborate your understanding.

 

[ScottA]

Sounds like you are saying the whole point of man-kind is to reveal rejection of God....If not perhaps you could elaborate your understanding.

Yes, something like that.

The point that I have been making, is that to examine the medical or scientific finer points or mechanics of an "image" made of "clay" is rightfully inaccurate...because it's "clay" and not actually the real thing. In fact, clay and water, makes mud. Therefore, such a parable "image", rather than being technically defined, needs to be interpreted.

In translation then, life (as pertains to abortion) is not defined by the life that is in a women or a child, but in God who gives life. Thus, there is no point in which a woman or any person can say, "Ah ha, life with me begins here rather than there!" For it is not actually theirs or ours to say, but God's.

 

[Stan B]

Yes, something like that.

The point that I have been making, is that to examine the medical or scientific finer points or mechanics of an "image" made of "clay" is rightfully inaccurate...because it's "clay" and not actually the real thing. In fact, clay and water, makes mud. Therefore, such a parable "image", rather than being technically defined, needs to be interpreted.

In translation then, life (as pertains to abortion) is not defined by the life that is in a women or a child, but in God who gives life. Thus, there is no point in which a woman or any person can say, "Ah ha, life with me begins here rather than there!" For it is not actually theirs or ours to say, but God's.

An interesting scientific study found that all 63 elements found in the human body are found in th earth!! And of course when you think of the food we eat, it ALL comes from the ground! The entire setup is a rather dirty effort!

 

[Taken]

Yes, something like that.

The point that I have been making, is that to examine the medical or scientific finer points or mechanics of an "image" made of "clay" is rightfully inaccurate...because it's "clay" and not actually the real thing. In fact, clay and water, makes mud. Therefore, such a parable "image", rather than being technically defined, needs to be interpreted.

In translation then, life (as pertains to abortion) is not defined by the life that is in a women or a child, but in God who gives life. Thus, there is no point in which a woman or any person can say, "Ah ha, life with me begins here rather than there!" For it is not actually theirs or ours to say, but God's.

Okay thank you.

 

[Taken]

An interesting scientific study found that all 63 elements found in the human body are found in th earth!! And of course when you think of the food we eat, it ALL comes from the ground! The entire setup is a rather dirty effort!

Yes. A mans body has the same elements found IN the Earth, as the Earth was created to sustain a healthy Life of that (man) which came out from the Earth.

 

[BreadOfLife]

The Bible is very specific as to the locaton of the Great Whore:

"Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and will have nothing. Then the PEOPLE OF THE PRINCE who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. [i.e. The Romans] The end will come like a flood, and until the end there will be war; desolations have been decreed. And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” Daniel 9:27

Put away your Jack Chick comic books and put ON your Thinking Cap, Stan . . .
The Bible states the following about the Whore:

1. She "sits on 7 HILLS" (Rev. 17:9)
Vatican Hill is NOT one of the 7 hills of Rome – which include:
Aventine Hill
Caelian Hill
Capitoline Hill
Esquiline Hill
Palatine Hill
Quirinal Hill
Viminal Hill

Jerusalem DOES sit on 7 hills, which include:
Mount Scopus
Mount Olivet
Mount of Corruption
Mount Ophel
Original Mount Zion
New Mount Zion
The hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built

2. She is called "The Great City" (Rev. 17:18)
- Jerusalem is called the "Great City" - “where also their Lord was crucified” (Rev. 11:8).

3. She is "Drunk on the blood of God's Holy people" (Rev 17:6)
- Not ONLY did Jerusalem kill the prophets (Matt. 23:37, Luke 13:34) - she persecuted the Early Church (Gal. 4:9, 2 Cor. 11:23-26) along with pagan Rome.

4. "Jerusalem is the "Faithful City" that became a “Whore”
- Isaiah 1:21 laments, "How the FAITHFUL CITY HAS BECOME A WHORE, she who was full of justice! Righteousness lodged in her, but now murderers."

5. Apostate Jerusalem has the blood of God’s holy people on her hands (prophets and martyrs) – NOT the Catholic Church (Rev 17:6, Matt. 23:37, Luke 13:34, Gal. 4:9, 2 Cor 11:23-26).
And to say that ONLY the Catholic Church killed Christians is false because many Catholics were killed by Protestants as well.

We read that the “ten horns” and the beast will hate the prostitute. “They will make her desolate and naked, and devour her flesh and burn her up with fire” (Rev. 17:16).
What happened in 70 AD? The destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple by pagan Rome.

Nothing about the Catholic Church even comes CLOSE to the comparison between the Whore of Babylon and apostate Jerusalem.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Satan’s children are obsessed with adding additional stuff to the Bible that God never placed there, like your added law against abortion which did not come from God; it therefore comes from Satan.

God has told us in Scripture when one becomes a living being. You have rejected God’s Word in favour of bowing to the law of Satan.

Your choice; and the Bible is very clear as to the rewards accompanying each choice.

Kinda likje Spla Scriptiura itself isn't found in thd Bible.
Sooooo, WHY do you adhere to that false doctrine?

 

[Jack]

Satan’s children are obsessed with adding additional stuff to the Bible that God never placed there,

Oh the irony!

like your added law against abortion which did not come from God; it therefore comes from Satan.

God has told us in Scripture when one becomes a living being. You have rejected God’s Word in favour of bowing to the law of Satan.

Your choice; and the Bible is very clear as to the rewards accompanying each choice.

I'm sure Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, AOC and the rest of the wolf pack would agree with you. I have no doubt that "legal abortion" kills more women than it saves. And so it's mostly about murdering babies for $$$ Stan. Hell will be filled with pro abortionists!

 

[Stan B]

Oh the irony!

I'm sure Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, AOC and the rest of the wolf pack would agree with you. I have no doubt that abortion kills more women than it saves. And so it's mostly about murdering babies for $$$ Stan.

I never thought I would ever have anything positive to say about the Dems, but as with many Americans, we have seen the Dems become champions of

LIBERTY, FREEDOM, FREEWILL

Meanwhile, the Republicans have turned against freedom, adopting the perverted ideology of the Taliban, controlling and suppressing every aspect of the lives of second class citizens like women.

If news analysis is correct, former Repubs are turning to the Dems in droves!

 

[Jack]

I never thought I would ever have anything positive to say about the Dems, but as with many Americans, we have seen the Dems become champions of

LIBERTY, FREEDOM, FREEWILL

Meanwhile, the Republicans have turned against freedom, adopting the perverted ideology of the Taliban, controlling and suppressing every aspect of the lives of second class citizens like women.

If news analysis is correct, former Repubs are turning to the Dems in droves!

You sound just like the Satanic media Stan.

 

[Taken]

@Jack
@Stan B

* The “news stations” are propaganda tools.

* The Government Servants (any major Party affiliations) have zero consideration of “Scripture or Liberty or the Limiting Constitution”
for-thought when writing Bills in hopes of passing legislation.

* God granted FREEWILL for every Person to Choose their own beliefs and acts and the consequences for their Choices, good or bad.

* Governing Authorities spend their time and the people’s money, Trading Favors, Making Unconstitutional Promises, Dictating what will apply to others, but not themselves, Dictating what will apply to them, but not others.

Don’t be fooled...they will do whatever it takes to keep their position and power of the poison pen.
And get a q-tip...they are SERVANTS, Limited by the Constitution.
Use that q-tip.....they are YOUR Master “leader”, when you Yield your Liberty to them.

Abortion is not a topic they were given authority over.
Not one person Requires the Governing Servants permission to exercise their own God given freewill to Choose for themselves.

 

[amigo de christo]

the news stations ARE indeed propoganda tools , but so are many churches now , so are many schools
Nothing but tools used to pump the propoganda of sie order .

 

[Enoch111]

I never thought I would ever have anything positive to say about the Dems, but as with many Americans, we have seen the Dems become champions of

LIBERTY, FREEDOM, FREEWILL

What kind of weed are you smoking? Or have you decided that fulfilling "1984" is the way to go. Here are their slogans:
SLAVERY = LIBERTY
BONDAGE = FREEDOM
TYRANNY = FREEWILL
LIES = TRUTH
POVERTY = WEALTH
SICKNESS = HEALTH

This is the Communist/Fascist/Anarchist/Racist agenda of the so-called "Democrats". At the very least they should be relabeled as DEMONCRATS since they worship the god Moloch and offer up infants as sacrifices to him. Even the Satanists have publicly admitted that abortion is a Satanist ritual. SO NOW YOU ARE ON THE SIDE OF SATAN.

 

[amigo de christo]

I dont think ol enoch voted for biden .

 

[Jack]

Jack, give us a break! You cannot murder an object that has never been a living being.

So that little being in my wife that poked her and squirmed for weeks was not alive?

So your theology is based upon the premise that “God is a Liar”, and that a fetus is actually a living being BEFORE, the time God says it becomes a living being!

I don’t understand why someone like you would be dumb enough to follow a god you have declared is a LIAR! But perhaps the god you worship is known as “The FATHER of LIES”!

No Stan, the Dem party is trying to lead you to Hell fire.

 

[Stan B]

@Jack
@Stan B

* The “news stations” are propaganda tools.

* The Government Servants (any major Party affiliations) have zero consideration of “Scripture or Liberty or the Limiting Constitution”
for-thought when writing Bills in hopes of passing legislation.

* God granted FREEWILL for every Person to Choose their own beliefs and acts and the consequences for their Choices, good or bad.

* Governing Authorities spend their time and the people’s money, Trading Favors, Making Unconstitutional Promises, Dictating what will apply to others, but not themselves, Dictating what will apply to them, but not others.

Don’t be fooled...they will do whatever it takes to keep their position and power of the poison pen.
And get a q-tip...they are SERVANTS, Limited by the Constitution.
Use that q-tip.....they are YOUR Master “leader”, when you Yield your Liberty to them.

Abortion is not a topic they were given authority over.
Not one person Requires the Governing Servants permission to exercise their own God given freewill to Choose for themselves.

The BIG change I see with the Repub Party, is that they no longer hold the view that they are elected to serve the people, but the people are now there to serve THEM!! Totally demented attitude which will place the people in bondage to a bunch of nutcase politicians!! :-(

 

[Jack]

The BIG change I see with the Repub Party, is that they no longer hold the view that they are elected to serve the people, but the people are now there to serve THEM!! Totally demented attitude which will place the people in bondage to a bunch of nutcase politicians!! :-(

And the Dems are so good. lol They just get rich on abortions. You could be a spokesman for the Dem Party and Planned Parenthood. You still haven't explained how those little darlings in Mommys squirm, poke and wiggle for weeks are dead.

 

[Stan B]

What kind of weed are you smoking? Or have you decided that fulfilling "1984" is the way to go. Here are their slogans:
SLAVERY = LIBERTY
BONDAGE = FREEDOM
TYRANNY = FREEWILL
LIES = TRUTH
POVERTY = WEALTH
SICKNESS = HEALTH

This is the Communist/Fascist/Anarchist/Racist agenda of the so-called "Democrats". At the very least they should be relabeled as DEMONCRATS since they worship the god Moloch and offer up infants as sacrifices to him. Even the Satanists have publicly admitted that abortion is a Satanist ritual. SO NOW YOU ARE ON THE SIDE OF SA

What kind of weed are you smoking? Or have you decided that fulfilling "1984" is the way to go. Here are their slogans:
SLAVERY = LIBERTY
BONDAGE = FREEDOM
TYRANNY = FREEWILL
LIES = TRUTH
POVERTY = WEALTH
SICKNESS = HEALTH

This is the Communist/Fascist/Anarchist/Racist agenda of the so-called "Democrats". At the very least they should be relabeled as DEMONCRATS since they worship the god Moloch and offer up infants as sacrifices to him. Even the Satanists have publicly admitted that abortion is a Satanist ritual. SO NOW YOU ARE ON THE SIDE OF SATAN.

Satanists have said . . . Blah. blah, blah, I.e. you derive your spiritual truth from what Satanists say, instead of Scripture!!

Like I said, Repubs have abandoned any semblance of faith or truth, but have now embraced the control-freak religion of the Taliban. About 60% of former Christians now embrace the religion of Allah, discarding freedom in favour of domination of women to a status on the level of barnyard animals.

Tell us when you receive your next message of truth from Satan!

 

[Jack]

Satanists have said . . . Blah. blah, blah, I.e. you derive your spiritual truth from what Satanists say, instead of Scripture!!

Like I said, Repubs have abandoned any semblance of faith or truth, but have now embraced the control-freak religion of the Taliban. About 60% of former Christians now embrace the religion of Allah, discarding freedom in favour of domination of women to a status on the level of barnyard animals.

Tell us when you receive your next message of truth from Satan!

Dems can't resist accusing others of what they themselves do all the time! Still waiting Stan. How are those little darlings dead? Your posts are filled with accusations but you don't even answer simple questions.

 

[Stan B]

Dems can't resist accusing others of what they themselves do all the time! Still waiting Stan. How are those little darlings dead? Your posts are filled with accusations but you don't even answer simple questions.

How are those little darlings dead? I am pretty much stuck with what the Bible says: They have never been alive!