There remains no sacrifice for sins . . .

[Taken]

JESUS sure did say YE must continue in me to the end .
So did the apostels too .
IF we hold our confidence , IN HIM , firm to the END .

Yes, continuing to the End WITH JESUS is A MUST.

The END…means…
* To the End of This World. (As it is Now, mortals and Evil spirits roaming about).
* To the End applies to every mortals end of Their mortal Life.

For Mortals; That Believe IN Jesus AND Continue Believing To the End of their Mortal Life….They SHALL be Saved.
* They are Warned:
Evil spirits / Wicked men can Convince them TO NOT believe.
* They are Cautioned:
Men in Power positions May Use their Authority to Force Them to go against Jesus (Gods Word).
* They are Taught in Scripture… HOPE.
Hope that no matter what men Attempt to Force…even injustice, even death…keep IN your Heart, your Belief IN Jesus (Gods Word), and no matter what a man does to you, even kill your Body…God Will Save you.
* That IS that mans HOPE….To his End.
* Gods Promise…IF you Do THAT and Keep your Belief IN Jesus and Hope…
* AFTER Christ’ millennial Reign…
* God Himself WILL bring you WITH Him.
* Which means: God Will Save The soul, Quicken The spirit, and Raise up The body in holy perfection; ie. Glorified.

1 Thes 4: 14…..
IN Jesus, God Will Bring With Him.

Those IN Christ, Are Saved. The Lord Shall Raise up Them To Him, Before the End.
They are not “In Hope”. They are “in faithful Trust and Assurance”.

1Thes 4: 16-17
IN Christ, The Lord Shall Call Up to Him.

Heb 6:11….full of Hope…
Heb 10:22…full of Faith…

Glory To God,
Taken

 

[Behold]

Aren't you assuming that Ananias was one of those who heard from the Lord Himself, and discounting Paul's statement that this in fact describes himself?

Marks,

how can the person who led you to Christ, or the person who led the person who led you to Christ not be the one who was taught to do it?

Why am i here, if i was not taught by the one who was taught, all the way back to Paul, and Jesus, and the OT.
We are all a part of the Tree, that started it.
Jesus received from God what to say and Do.
We, have received from those who went before, traced all the way back to the the Epistles.

So, what idea are you trying to promote when you suggest that im "assuming" that Ananias heard from the Lord..... when the verse says that He received a Vision, that instructed Him to go to Paul. ?

Who do you think gave him that vision?

Mohammed?
Donald Duck.

Ananias was a BROTHER< born again, or the heavenly vision that TOLD HIM to go to PAUL, would not have been given to him.
He would not have been a born again, had he not been INSTRUCTED in the Faith, long before he was told to Go to Paul.

So, when Paul says, in your verse """""that he received from someone""""........He is not kidding.
Ananias is that someone.

And let me show you something more to consider as you figure all this out.

On this Forum, im "Behold".
On other forums, im also, but on even more forums, im Bethel, and Kidron, and others, for years.
So, sometimes i show up on a new forum, as occasionally a new one pops up, and so, i'll go there and start teaching and someone will pm me and say...."hey Behold", or "hey Kidron".
They know me by how i SOUND and WRITE and TEACH........as this is all unique = to me.
So, when you study Paul for 30+ years, you learn how he sounds and writes.

Here is Paul.
He is the apostle who always writes about the BLOOD of Jesus. = That is one of His mainstays... His CORE Gospel.
And He talks about "finishing his course". and "running the race"
See those 2?
Thats PAUL... not Jude, or Mark, or John, or Timothy, or Titus.
Paul is all about the "" BLOOD the CROSS and the Course and the Race"
Remember that, Bro.

Now Look..

Hebrews 12 : 1

""""and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,"""


See that?

That is "finished my course"....

That's Paul in another verse he wrote...


Now.....Look at this...

Hebrews 9.

12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.

22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.


Marks, do you see all that BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD?

That is Paul, as His Gospel is bloody, as is His Savior's Salvation..... and is never about water, its always about the shed BLOOD OF JESUS.

Look..

Galatians 3:13

""""""Christ bought us with His BLOOD and made us free from the Law."""

See that Marks?

That is "BLOOD BOUGHT", as Paul is explaining in HEBREWS Chapter 9


Paul wrote Hebrews.


Ok then.
Let me go now and deal with some others who don't understand Jesus's reason for dying for them.


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[Taken]

Sin - Disbelief in God.
Sin - OT not following Mosaic Law.
Sin - NT —-> forward; Disbelief IN God and The ONE God Sent.

Sin Forgiveness - OT…YEARLY Sin Offering BY man of a pure Animal and it’s (Life)…BLOOD.
Sin Forgiveness - NT…(and forward) ONCE Belief of Man, Gods Sin Offering of JESUS’ Life (Blood).
Mans HOPE, he continues, By his own power to believe Gods Offering of Jesus’ Blood, is sufficient for that man to Receive Salvation, at the End of his mortal Life.
OR
Mans ASSURANCE, he Shall continue IN Belief IN Jesus, Belief IN Christ, BY the Power of God (who IS Christ ). , IN that man, to the end of that mans mortal Life…and Forever in that man eternal Spiritual Life.
* Once and Forever With The Lord God Almighty.

Man IS Offered Hope OR Assurance…
Man is Give FREEWILL to Choose either or Reject either or both.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[mailmandan]

Sorry if the truth bores you and does not line up with your sinless perfection delusion. (1 John 1:8-10)

The fact remains that Hebrews is written to Hebrews and the willful sinning is rejecting Christ deliberately by rejecting the new covenant of grace God established through the blood of Jesus for sacrifices and offerings under the law. This letter is not written to Christians in general and warning them that if they ever commit any sin at all that they will lose their salvation. Just deal with it.

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, continuing to the End WITH JESUS is A MUST.

The END…means…
* To the End of This World. (As it is Now, mortals and Evil spirits roaming about).
* To the End applies to every mortals end of Their mortal Life.

For Mortals; That Believe IN Jesus AND Continue Believing To the End of their Mortal Life….They SHALL be Saved.
* They are Warned:
Evil spirits / Wicked men can Convince them TO NOT believe.
* They are Cautioned:
Men in Power positions May Use their Authority to Force Them to go against Jesus (Gods Word).
* They are Taught in Scripture… HOPE.
Hope that no matter what men Attempt to Force…even injustice, even death…keep IN your Heart, your Belief IN Jesus (Gods Word), and no matter what a man does to you, even kill your Body…God Will Save you.
* That IS that mans HOPE….To his End.
* Gods Promise…IF you Do THAT and Keep your Belief IN Jesus and Hope…
* AFTER Christ’ millennial Reign…
* God Himself WILL bring you WITH Him.
* Which means: God Will Save The soul, Quicken The spirit, and Raise up The body in holy perfection; ie. Glorified.

1 Thes 4: 14…..
IN Jesus, God Will Bring With Him.

Those IN Christ, Are Saved. The Lord Shall Raise up Them To Him, Before the End.
They are not “In Hope”. They are “in faithful Trust and Assurance”.

1Thes 4: 16-17
IN Christ, The Lord Shall Call Up to Him.

Heb 6:11….full of Hope…
Heb 10:22…full of Faith…

Glory To God,
Taken

Exactly . KEEP THE FAITH , THE HOPE IN CHRIST ALONE as the ONLY MEANS ONE CAN BE SAVED .
SO would you mind telling me why on earth over seventy percent of so called christains
now beleive YOU DONT HAVE to believe in JESUS to be saved . We better make sure our HEART matches our mouth
and our mouth our heart and that THEY AGREE TO TRUTH . cause i am seeing folks even on this site blabbering such lies in the name of a dark love
EVER WONDER WHY i declare such war against the all inclusive many path rainbow accepting lie from hell itself .
NO LOVE OF GOD would point to any other religion or name to save one and then say HEY JUST LOVEY DO and ye are fine .
What kind of love honors SIN which MOCKSGOD and says alas other religoins are finding GOD in their own path and religoin .
What a lie from hell . SO WHY BUY THE LIE . NO LOVE that comes of GOD would lead one to darkness and death
but rather to the CONFESSION OF JESUS CHRIST ALONE FOR SALVATION . Ponder on that for a bit .

 

[Michiah-Imla]

The fact remains that Hebrews is written to Hebrews

It was written to saved brethren who are PARTAKERS of the heavenly calling!

“Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus” (Hebrews 3:1)

and the willful sinning is rejecting Christ deliberately

You add that to the text despite the warnings in scripture against this practice.

“Against whom do ye sport yourselves? against whom make ye a wide mouth, and draw out the tongue? are ye not children of transgression, a seed of falsehood…” (Isaiah 57:4)

 

[amigo de christo]

Sin - Disbelief in God.
Sin - OT not following Mosaic Law.
Sin - NT —-> forward; Disbelief IN God and The ONE God Sent.

Sin Forgiveness - OT…YEARLY Sin Offering BY man of a pure Animal and it’s (Life)…BLOOD.
Sin Forgiveness - NT…(and forward) ONCE Belief of Man, Gods Sin Offering of JESUS’ Life (Blood).
Mans HOPE, he continues, By his own power to believe Gods Offering of Jesus’ Blood, is sufficient for that man to Receive Salvation, at the End of his mortal Life.
OR
Mans ASSURANCE, he Shall continue IN Belief IN Jesus, Belief IN Christ, BY the Power of God (who IS Christ ). , IN that man, to the end of that mans mortal Life…and Forever in that man eternal Spiritual Life.
* Once and Forever With The Lord God Almighty.

Man IS Offered Hope OR Assurance…
Man is Give FREEWILL to Choose either or Reject either or both.

Glory to God,
Taken

Of SIN because THEY BELIEVE NOT ON ME . TIME TO POINT TO CHRIST and stop allowing the idea
that other religoins findtheir way to GOD too . WE cant say we BELIEVE IN CHRIST and then turn around and say
OH BUT HEY GOD MADE a way in their religion too . NOPE . DONT WORK THAT WAY . EITHER We BELIEVE JESUS
whcih means WE BELIEVE WHAT HE SAID or we Decieve and have decieved ourselves .
Ye cannot have fellowship and or unity with darkness . PREACH CHRIST , HE ALONE , HE ALONE is the ONLY NAME whereby one
can be saved . EITHER we believe HIM or we dont . But if we dont we have decieved ourselves
into following what paul would have called ANOTHER JESUS . YE who are justfied by works ,HAVE FALLEN FROM Grace .
SO they got smart . THEY now preach a works love . THEY say oh if anyone just has love , it dont matter what path they follow
they do good and are saved . FALLEN FROM GRACE ITS A LIE . ONE HAS to believe in CHRIST to be saved .
AND if we truly believe that , WHERE IS OUR LOVE if we can just go with the flow of this false all inclusive religoin
and watch others END UP IN PERDTION for believe such a lie . TIME TO EXPOSE the LIE and POINT ONLY TO JESUS .

 

[amigo de christo]

How often i hear but GOD , HIS LOVE IS SO HUGE . Yeah but ,,,, HIS LOVE COMES IN ONE NAME . JESUS CHRIST my friends .
Any other love that wont point to CHRIST as the only means by which one can be saved ,
IS THE BROAD PATH TO PERDITION . ITS A LIE . We will all stand before CHRIST . REMEMBER THAT .
HE said it first . GO ye and preach the gospel . Those who wont recieve you , shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them .
It will be worse for THEM than even for sodom on the day of judgement . REMEMBER that the next time some wacked out
crazy radical love preacher tries to tell ya that GOD has made the ROAD BROAD . wrong , THE ROAD to GOD , the PATH TO GOD
the WAY TO GOD IS IN CHRIST ALONE . SO BELIEVE THE GOSPEL .

 

[Taken]

Exactly . KEEP THE FAITH , THE HOPE IN CHRIST ALONE as the ONLY MEANS ONE CAN BE SAVED .
SO would you mind telling me why on earth over seventy percent of so called christains
now beleive YOU DONT HAVE to believe in JESUS to be saved . We better make sure our HEART matches our mouth
and our mouth our heart . cause i am seeing folks even on this site blabbering such lies in the name of a dark love
EVER WONDER WHY i declare such war against the all inclusive many path rainbow accepting lie from hell itself .
NO LOVE OF GOD would point to any other religion or name to save one and then say HEY JUST LOVEY DO and ye are fine .
What kind of love honors SIN which MOCKSGOD and says alas other religoins are finding GOD in their own path and religoin .
What a lie from hell . SO WHY BUY THE LIE . NO LOVE that comes of GOD would lead one to darkness and death
but rather to the CONFESSION OF JESUS CHRIST ALONE FOR SALVATION . Ponder on that for a bit .

We have Government Servants who Think themselves Elected, Appointed and Entitled Dictators…
WHO THINK a brief mention of God… is Supposed to be satisfactory to ALL the People at Large…That WHAT THEY Dictate SHALL Apply to ALL the People, Because the Inference is THEY are RULING according to Gods Will!

It’s A complete LIE.
Servants Don’t Rule…They Serve.
Servants HAVE a Limit… IN How They Lawfully CAN Serve the People.
Servants are Not Dictators, They ARE Servants Who Govern over the Few Limited Items According to their Limited Constitutional Duties, They promised BY Their own Oath They Would Do.

They Don’t.
They Say…God this, God that…
Then cast their Advocation and Support;
To: Gender change, same Gender Sex Relationships, Same Sex Marriages, Abortions, Genocide, Encouraging Detrimental Disease and chemically created Drug Compounds, Warring and Citizenry Divisions and Indoctrination Education Systems for children in their weakest formative Years.

Not a big Mystery to observe WHO Says… God, God then Dictates THEIR WAY
And Not notice it is NOT God WAY.

Not a big Mystery to Know, the Devil, the Wicked Target the Young and the Weak.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Michiah-Imla]

To "sin willfully" (Hebrews 10:26) carries the idea of deliberate intention which stems from rejecting Christ deliberately. This is continuous action, a matter of practice. Now we don't walk along our daily life and "accidentally" fall into a pit called sin. We exercise our will but, the use of the participle clearly shows willful, continuous action, committed by those who draw back to perdition and do not believe to the saving of the soul. (vs. 39). The unrighteous practice sin (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21); not the righteous, who are born of God. (1 Corinthians 6:11; 1 John 3:9)

In context, the writer is addressing unbelieving Hebrews (mixed in with believing Hebrews) who fail to enter into the new covenant of grace by faith and receive God’s forgiveness through the blood of Jesus. If these Hebrews reject the new covenant of grace God that established through the blood of Jesus and instead, depend upon the works of the old covenant of law to rescue them from the coming judgment, then they can only expect to be consumed by fire as God's adversaries.

Hebrews 10:26 - For if we go on willfully and deliberately sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice [to atone] for our sins [that is, no further offering to anticipate]. (AMP)

“They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper. Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands. Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths. The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.” (Isaiah 59:5-8)

 

[Lambano]

To "sin willfully" (Hebrews 10:26) carries the idea of deliberate intention which stems from rejecting Christ deliberately.

Not quite, but you're on the right track. One of the major themes of Hebrews is warning against apostacy, and about keeping the faith. Count the times the author warns the reader against "falling away" and similar terms. Then count the times the author encourages the reader to keep the faith. (Doing this a good Biblical exercise. Try it! It's fun!)

The author has already asserted in chapters 8, 9, and 10 that Christ's sacrifice DOES cover the believer's willful sin, like the temple sacrifices, but once for all (chapter 9, verses 23-28). The author's point in 10:26 is that if you abandon Christ, you'd better not sin willfully, because there no longer is any sacrifices for your sin.

 

[mailmandan]

It was written to saved brethren who are PARTAKERS of the heavenly calling!

“Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus” (Hebrews 3:1)

You add that to the text despite the warnings in scripture against this practice.

“Against whom do ye sport yourselves? against whom make ye a wide mouth, and draw out the tongue? are ye not children of transgression, a seed of falsehood…” (Isaiah 57:4)

It was written to saved "Hebrew" brethren, yet not everyone in this group of "professing" Hebrew believers were genuine believers. (Henrews 10:39) Just as we see in Hebrews 4:1-2. Your eisegesis doesn't fit.

 

[mailmandan]

Not quite, but you're on the right track. One of the major themes of Hebrews is warning against apostacy, and about keeping the faith. Count the times the author warns the reader against "falling away" and similar terms. Then count the times the author encourages the reader to keep the faith. (Doing this a good Biblical exercise. Try it! It's fun!)

The author has already asserted in chapters 8, 9, and 10 that Christ's sacrifice DOES cover the believer's willful sin, like the temple sacrifices, but once for all (chapter 9, verses 23-28). The author's point in 10:26 is that if you abandon Christ, you'd better not sin willfully, because there no longer is any sacrifices for your sin.

I see willfully sinning here in Hebrews 10 as rejecting Christ and not merely committing an act of random sin. Faith that does not continue demonstrates that it was never firmly rooted and established from the start. There are genuine Christians and there are "nominal" Christians. There are genuine believers and there are make believers.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Your eisegesis doesn't fit.

Your eisegesis doesn't fit.

So I prove you wrong on one assertion, and then you lay another falsehood down…

 

[mailmandan]

Your eisegesis doesn't fit.

So I prove you wrong on one assertion, and then you lay another falsehood down…

You proved nothing. Never have and most likely never will.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

It was written to saved "Hebrew" brethren, yet not everyone in this group of "professing" Hebrew believers were genuine believers.

You weren’t even there!

The warning is to believers!

The unbelievers are ALREADY lost!!

 

[Behold]

. Faith that does not continue demonstrates that it was never firmly rooted and established from the start.

Not really.

See, most believers have had a season of backsliding, or a crisis of faith, AFTER they were born again.
Mark for example, (Paul speaks of him) was out of the ministry for decades., but Paul used him toward the end of His life.

Paul and Barnabas had a real issue, and parted ways..
Paul wrote most of the NT, (Epistles) and Barnabas remained invisible.

Demas, was in the ministry, and left........ and not another word found in the NT about this born again saint.

So, a TRUE Faith Crisis can't happen unless you have real faith., and in that case, because you are born again already, it has no bearing on your eternal life, it only affects what you do down here.

James says that you can have dead faith, but he never teaches that this means your Salvation is dead, and the reason is....
JESUS is your salvation, not your faith.

Lots of people who claim the Name of Jesus, spend all their time on forums talking about SIN, or losing faith, or losing salvation, or OSAS, instead of telling us about the goodness of God and the wonder of Salvation.

Have you noticed this type, Mailmandan?

Be wary of that type as their spiritual FRUIT isn't right according to their POSTS and THREADS, and thats a fact they keep proving by their continuing and incredibly poor witness.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

You proved nothing. Never have and never will.

Really?

What’s this then?

 

[RLT63]

So then God does these things for His pleasure knowing the people could never live up to his standards?

“Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.” (Isaiah 65:12)

You’ve been corrupted by false teachers.

Start reading your Bible and humble yourself before God!

Rom 7:14 - For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Rom 7:15 - For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do.

Rom 7:16 - If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good.

Rom 7:17 - But now, it isno longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.

Rom 7:18 - For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find.

Rom 7:19 - For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do,that I practice.

Rom 7:20 - Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.

Rom 7:21 - I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good.

Rom 7:22 - For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.

Rom 7:23 - But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

Rom 7:24 - O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Rom 7:14 -

Rom 7:24

Does the book of Romans end on chapter 7 with you guys?

All of your references are sandwiched between these two very important and biblically contextual facts that ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED adherents leave out:

All the verses you posted are under this condition:

“…when we were in the flesh” (Romans 7:5)

But if you’re born again:

“…ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9)

Stop listening to ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED garbage and get back to reading your precious Holy Bible frequently and constantly.