Coincidences? Or Time to WATCH be READY for the Day and Hour Is Near

[David in NJ]

Daniel 12:1-2KJV
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

How do you not understand that these verses are about the people of Daniel?

These verses are talking about the great tribulation that happens to the people of Daniel. This occurs BEFORE the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. The judgement that you are talking about is AFTER the tribulation of those days. That judgement can be found here.

Revelation 11
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

AGAIN = You do not understand how Revelation was written and your self-inflicted blindness of pre-trib makes it even worse.

Then the seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and loud voices called out in heaven:

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout,
with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God.
And the dead in Christ will rise first.

Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,
at the last trumpet.

For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

OT Prophets, JESUS, Apostles = One Resurrection of the Just at His Second Coming at the last trumpet

 

[The Light]

Actually they do not believe that either. They believe Jesus comes to rapture them away PRIOR to the trumpets and vials. They believe that by the end of the 4th chapter of Revelation the Church is gone, raptured. Then they believe they with Jesus returns on the "last trump".

Agreed. And yet, like I said they think the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 occurs at the end of the trumpets. It does not. The coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 occurs at the 6th seal which is before the 7th seal is opened and therefore this coming cannot be at the end of the trumpets.

What God's Word actually teaches though is that Lord Jesus comes ONE TIME ONLY, and that is at the END of the "great tribulation", as He said "After that tribulation...".

So the real question is, where do you see the great tribulation in Revelation?

The "great tribulation" will be Satan's wrath upon Christ's Church, but only His elect will be prepared to make a stand against Satan; any deceived in the Church will fall away to that false-Messiah who comes first.

The Church is already in heaven before the seals are opened.

No such thing as a Pre-tribulation rapture written anywhere in God's Word.

Being worthy to escape ALL THESE THINGS that will come to pass AND STAND BEFORE THE SON OF MAN, should tell a wise man what he needs to know.
Luke 21
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

There is only an idea of Christ's 'protection' of His faithful Church on earth to go through... the coming "great tribulation".

Except we see the Church in heaven in Revelation 5. We see Jesus has returned in Revelation 4

 

[The Light]

AGAIN = You do not understand how Revelation was written and your self-inflicted blindness of pre-trib makes it even worse.

Let me be as clear as possible. You do not understand the order of Revelation. I have asked you several times, what is the order of Revelation and you have continually failed to respond.

Then the seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and loud voices called out in heaven:

This event occurs at the end of the wrath of God. We can see that "the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord.

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

This event occurs at the 6th seal before the wrath of God.

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God.
And the dead in Christ will rise first.

This event occurs before the seals are opened.

Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,
at the last trumpet.

For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

OT Prophets, JESUS, Apostles = One Resurrection of the Just at His Second Coming at the last trumpet

This event is also talking about the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. This is Jesus sending His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth BEFORE the wrath of God.

Do you miss the fact that Jesus comes with the armies of heaven at the first event? The Lord Himself comes at the pretribulation rapture of the Church and the Lord sends His angels for the gathering from heaven and earth at the last trump. Three different comings with three different circumstances. How is it that you do not understand these things?

 

[David in NJ]

Let me be as clear as possible. You do not understand the order of Revelation. I have asked you several times, what is the order of Revelation and you have continually failed to respond.

This event occurs at the end of the wrath of God. We can see that "the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord.

This event occurs at the 6th seal before the wrath of God.

This event occurs before the seals are opened.

This event is also talking about the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. This is Jesus sending His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth BEFORE the wrath of God.

Do you miss the fact that Jesus comes with the armies of heaven at the first event? The Lord Himself comes at the pretribulation rapture of the Church and the Lord sends His angels for the gathering from heaven and earth at the last trump. Three different comings with three different circumstances. How is it that you do not understand these things?

i used to think you were an honest person, truly seeking to know Truth.

However, your heart is not right before the Lord as you continually add to His words and take away from His words.

Revelation 10:7
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be fulfilled,
just as He proclaimed to His servants the prophets.”

The mystery of God is the Second Coming of Christ and the Resurrection of the Just = Daniel 12:1-3, 1 Cor 15:51-52

Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be change in an instant, the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.

Revelation 11:15-18
Then the seventh angel sounded:
We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty,
The One who is and who was and who is to come,
Because You have taken Your great power and reigned.
The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come,
And the time of the dead, that they should be judged,
And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints,

1 Thess 1:10 and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.
1 Thess 4:16 For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

As long as you love and worship the idol of pre-trib rapture the LORD Jesus Christ will leave you in your blindness.

 

[Truth7t7]

Daniel 12:1-2KJV
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

How do you not understand that these verses are about the people of Daniel?

These verses are talking about the great tribulation that happens to the people of Daniel. This occurs BEFORE the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. The judgement that you are talking about is AFTER the tribulation of those days. That judgement can be found here.

Revelation 11
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

The verses below in Daniel shows "The Final Judgement" the book of life below will be opened "Once" at the final judgment of "All"!

Your Claims Are "False"!

Daniel 12:1-2KJV
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

 

[Truth7t7]

Let me be as clear as possible. You do not understand the order of Revelation. I have asked you several times, what is the order of Revelation and you have continually failed to respond.

This event occurs at the end of the wrath of God. We can see that "the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord.

This event occurs at the 6th seal before the wrath of God.

This event occurs before the seals are opened.

This event is also talking about the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. This is Jesus sending His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth BEFORE the wrath of God.

Do you miss the fact that Jesus comes with the armies of heaven at the first event? The Lord Himself comes at the pretribulation rapture of the Church and the Lord sends His angels for the gathering from heaven and earth at the last trump. Three different comings with three different circumstances. How is it that you do not understand these things?

You continue to push the false "Pre-Wrath" doctrine, "Wrong"

Jesus returns in fire and final judgment on the last day, the church is take out before God pours his cup of wrath upon the wicked (The End)

 

[The Light]

The verses below in Daniel shows "The Final Judgement" the book of life below will be opened "Once" at the final judgment of "All"!

Your Claims Are "False"!

Daniel 12:1-2KJV
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Daniel 12
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

If what you are saying is true why does the Word say MANY OF THEM that sleep in the dust.

 

[The Light]

You continue to push the false "Pre-Wrath" doctrine, "Wrong"

Jesus returns in fire and final judgment on the last day, the church is take out before God pours his cup of wrath upon the wicked (The End)

Oh boy. God wrath starts when the 1st trumpet is blown after the seventh seal is opened.

 

[The Light]

i used to think you were an honest person, truly seeking to know Truth.

However, your heart is not right before the Lord as you continually add to His words and take away from His words.

You have no idea what I have seen. You have no idea what I understand. I have added nothing and have taken away nothing from the Word. Right now, you should be preparing for the soon coming of the Lord for His Church and yet you walk in blind ignorance with no oil in your lamp to see.

Revelation 10:7
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be fulfilled,
just as He proclaimed to His servants the prophets.”

The mystery of God is the Second Coming of Christ and the Resurrection of the Just = Daniel 12:1-3, 1 Cor 15:51-52

Totally wrong. When the 7th angel sounds the wrath of God is OVER. Jesus has returned with the armies of heaven and set up His kingdom on earth.

Revelation 11
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Daniel 12:1-3, 1 Cor 15:51-52 happen at the 6th seal before the wrath of God begins.

Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be change in an instant, the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.

Revelation 11:15-18
Then the seventh angel sounded:
We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty,
The One who is and who was and who is to come,
Because You have taken Your great power and reigned.
The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come,
And the time of the dead, that they should be judged,
And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints,

1 Cor 15
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Again, a total lack of understanding. The last trump is blown on the Feast of Trumpets the time of the fall fruit harvest. This happens with the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24. It is the gathering from heaven and earth. THIS HAPPENS AT THE 6TH SEAL, not the 7th trumpet blown by an angel.

We can see this harvest in Revelation 14, which is the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24, which happens at the 6th seal, BEFORE WRATH.

Rev 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

Revelaton 6
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

1 Thess 1:10 and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

There it is, crystal clear, AND YET YOU HAVE THE CHURCH GOING THROUGH THE WRATH OF GOD.

So, who is adding and taking away from the Word of God. If you were right, why is the Church going through Gods wrath in your timeline. Wrath begins when the seventh seal is opened when the 1st trumpet of wrath is blown.

1 Thess 4:16 For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

This is the pretrib rapture. The fig tree has TWO HARVESTS. It's amazing that you can see neither. How is it that you don't understand these things?

As long as you love and worship the idol of pre-trib rapture the LORD Jesus Christ will leave you in your blindness.

The Lord is coming very, very soon for His bride. Soon you will know that you should have studied to show yourself approved, a workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth. The Lord Himself comes for His Church before the seals are opened. The Lord comes again for the 144,000 first fruits of the second harvest. The Lord comes again at the 6th seal, before wrath and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth and all return to heaven for the marriage supper. The Lord comes again after the marriage supper with the armies of heaven at the end of the trumpets.

And out of this, you are able to see, one or maybe two comings. How is it that you cannot understand these things? Just read what the Word says.

 

[David in NJ]

You have no idea what I have seen. You have no idea what I understand. I have added nothing and have taken away nothing from the Word. Right now, you should be preparing for the soon coming of the Lord for His Church and yet you walk in blind ignorance with no oil in your lamp to see.


Totally wrong. When the 7th angel sounds the wrath of God is OVER. Jesus has returned with the armies of heaven and set up His kingdom on earth.

Revelation 11
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Daniel 12:1-3, 1 Cor 15:51-52 happen at the 6th seal before the wrath of God begins.


1 Cor 15
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Again, a total lack of understanding. The last trump is blown on the Feast of Trumpets the time of the fall fruit harvest. This happens with the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24. It is the gathering from heaven and earth. THIS HAPPENS AT THE 6TH SEAL, not the 7th trumpet blown by an angel.

We can see this harvest in Revelation 14, which is the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24, which happens at the 6th seal, BEFORE WRATH.

Rev 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

Revelaton 6
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

There it is, crystal clear, AND YET YOU HAVE THE CHURCH GOING THROUGH THE WRATH OF GOD.

So, who is adding and taking away from the Word of God. If you were right, why is the Church going through Gods wrath in your timeline. Wrath begins when the seventh seal is opened when the 1st trumpet of wrath is blown.


This is the pretrib rapture. The fig tree has TWO HARVESTS. It's amazing that you can see neither. How is it that you don't understand these things?

The Lord is coming very, very soon for His bride. Soon you will know that you should have studied to show yourself approved, a workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth. The Lord Himself comes for His Church before the seals are opened. The Lord comes again for the 144,000 first fruits of the second harvest. The Lord comes again at the 6th seal, before wrath and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth and all return to heaven for the marriage supper. The Lord comes again after the marriage supper with the armies of heaven at the end of the trumpets.

And out of this, you are able to see, one or maybe two comings. How is it that you cannot understand these things? Just read what the Word says.

YOUR WORDS = "You have no idea what I have seen. You have no idea what I understand. I have added nothing and have taken away nothing from the Word."

YOUR WORDS = "They don't see Him again until they are believers that Jesus it the Messiah."

LORD JESUS words = for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ”

Exalting your words above the LORD's words is anti-christ.

pre-trib rapture is anti-christ = it never came out of the Mouth of God

Awake, O sword, against My Shepherd,
Against the Man who is My Companion,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
“Strike the Shepherd,
And the sheep will be scattered;
Then I will turn My hand against the little ones.
And it shall come to pass in all the land,”
Says the Lord,
“That two-thirds in it shall be cut off and die,
But one-third shall be left in it:
I will bring the one-third through the fire,
Will refine them as silver is refined,
And test them as gold is tested.
They will call on My name,
And I will answer them.
I will say, ‘This is My people’;
And each one will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’

Furthermore you need to repent from speaking for the devil by separating Jew from Gentile in the Body of Christ.

When Christ Returns at His Second Coming = HE is coming for HIS OWN PEOPLE = Jew & Gentile in HIM

 

[Ronald Nolette]

It is not about spending 1,000 years in Paradise. The 1,000 years is literal time on earth, not the Lord's Day considering God’s perspective of time. The Lord's Day is the symbolic. The 1,000 years is the literal.

God's equation of the 1000 year principle to the Lord's Day was established in Genesis 2, not 2 Peter 3.

There is nothing to even hint in Gen. 2 that a Lords Day is 1,000 years. I am glad you realize jesus reigns on earth for 1000 years

 

[Davy]

Agreed. And yet, like I said they think the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 occurs at the end of the trumpets. It does not.

Well if you by that, that the believe they 'with' Jesus return from Heaven at the end of the 7th trumpet, I understand they believe that, but that's not what God's Word says. So you still don't have what they believe correct.

Pre-tribbers wrongly believe in TWO comings by Christ for the end:
1. BEFORE... the tribulation to gather the Church to Heaven.
2. AFTER... the tribulation on the last trump with a return... with... Jesus back to this earth. And they even wrongly are taught that they and Jesus actually rule FROM... Heaven, and not on the earth.

But God's Word says:
1. Jesus returns to gather His Church on the 'last day' of this world, AFTER... the tribulation. And His feet touch down upon the Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem, with bringing all His elect with Him there, and begins His "thousand years" reign of Rev.20.

The coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 occurs at the 6th seal which is before the 7th seal is opened and therefore this coming cannot be at the end of the trumpets.

The 7th Seal actually represent a finish, because it presents a period of silence, like a 'selah' in the Psalms, which is a period of musical rest. That is given to separate the description of the 7 Signs of the end given in Rev.6 from the giving of the 7 trumpets which are next.

What this means is, there's only 7 main Signs of the 'end'.

This is why one can do a parallel study with Matthew 24 and Mark 13 together with Revelation 6. The Seals are... the 7 Signs of the end Jesus gave in His Olivet discourse. This then means the Seals, Trumpets, and Vials are actually parallels. Jesus returns on 777, the 7th Seal (or final Sign in the Seals), the 7th trumpet, and the 7th vial. Satan comes on 666.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Daniel 12
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

If what you are saying is true why does the Word say MANY OF THEM that sleep in the dust.

Many does not have to mean "not all". Here is one example of that:

Matthew 22:14 “For many are invited, but few are chosen.”

This was what Jesus said after describing the calling of people to salvation using a parable of people being invited to a wedding banquet. Was He saying that many but not all people are invited/called, but few are chosen? Or was He saying that all people, who number as "many" or "a multitude" are invited/called, but few are chosen? Clearly the latter, right? So, again, "many" does not have to mean "not all".

Other translations of Daniel 12:2 have "a multitude" instead of "many". You need to learn to use scripture to interpret scripture. Look at what Jesus taught here:

John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.

Jesus made it clear that a time is coming when ALL will be resurrected from the dead, not just some. The number of all who will be resurrected is described in Daniel 12:2 as being "many or "a multitude".

 

[David in NJ]

At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn.
They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.
And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

 

[David in NJ]

In your blindness of 'pre-trib rapture' you will stop at nothing to oppose the very words of the Lord Jesus Christ>

#1 - There is not a single verse or passage of scripture from Genesis to Revelation that state: "the Body of Christ will be pre-trib raptured"

#2 - You constantly add to and take away from what God has spoken.

EXAMPLE: You say - "the last Trump is not the 7th Trumpet"

GOD says it is: "but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound,
the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets."

Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed—
in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.
For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God.
And the dead in Christ will rise first.

Your pre-trib lie directly opposes God's words.

Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.

 

[The Light]

Many does not have to mean "not all". Here is one example of that:

Matthew 22:14 “For many are invited, but few are chosen.”

This was what Jesus said after describing the calling of people to salvation using a parable of people being invited to a wedding banquet. Was He saying that many but not all people are invited/called, but few are chosen? Or was He saying that all people, who number as "many" or "a multitude" are invited/called, but few are chosen? Clearly the latter, right? So, again, "many" does not have to mean "not all".

Other translations of Daniel 12:2 have "a multitude" instead of "many". You need to learn to use scripture to interpret scripture. Look at what Jesus taught here:

If you understood there is a coming of Jesus at the 6th seal and then a coming of Jesus at the end of the trumpets you would realize why the word many was used.

John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.

Jesus made it clear that a time is coming when ALL will be resurrected from the dead, not just some. The number of all who will be resurrected is described in Daniel 12:2 as being "many or "a multitude".

Let's get a different view of this. As you say, and I agree, ALL that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

So the first question should be WHY are they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

That doesn't strike you as odd. Are you saved by doing good works? If you have done evil is there no chance of salvation? That should tell you there is a lot more here than most realize.

Look at these verses.

John 5
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

Remember this:
1 Thes 4
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

From the scriptures provided you should be able to determine that the dead in Christ rise first. That will happen first at the pretribulation rapture. Then at the 6th seal at the end of the tribulation, MANY of them that sleep in the ground etc. etc. Then later ALL of them that sleep in the ground that have done good etc etc. They are not in Christ and yet it appears that the Son will judge them as

 

[David in NJ]

There is nothing to even hint in Gen. 2 that a Lords Day is 1,000 years. I am glad you realize jesus reigns on earth for 1000 years

Genesis firmly established a literal 1,000 Years on earth

Chicken before eggs = Genesis before Revelation

 

[Davy]

If you understood there is a coming of Jesus at the 6th seal and then a coming of Jesus at the end of the trumpets you would realize why the word many was used.

That is what the Pre-trib Rapture school teaches, but it is not Biblical. They do not recognize the actual EVENT type in Christ's Book of Revelation, but only try to place the Seals, Trumpets, and Vials in the order John was given to see them and write them down. The 'order' they are given is NOT the order they happen...

In Jesus' Olivet discourse, He gave ONLY 7 main SIGNS of the end leading up to His future return on the "day of the Lord", the 'last day' of this present world. The 7th Sign He gave there was that of His coming and gathering of His elect. And those SIGNS are... the SEALS of Rev.6.

The 7th Trumpet reveals the SAME type EVENTS as the 6th Seal and 7th Vial, i.e., the day of Jesus' future one and only coming.

 

[Truth7t7]

Genesis firmly established a literal 1,000 Years on earth

Chicken before eggs = Genesis before Revelation

I also disagree, Genesis shows no such thing

 

[David in NJ]

Oh boy. God wrath starts when the 1st trumpet is blown after the seventh seal is opened.

You do not understand Revelation because of your pre-trib error.

The wrath of God begins in chapter 16

Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, “Go, pour out on the earth the seven bowls of God’s wrath"

I also disagree, Genesis shows no such thing

Well that is you telling God = 'Hey God, i don't believe what you are saying here in..........'