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amigo de christo

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Christ Jesus just a prophet?-what about Prophet, Priest and King?

Jesus didn't receive worship in His short ministry on earth?
Worship means “reverence paid to a divine being.” If Jesus was offered and accepted worship, then by doing so He was confirming His divinity. This is important because there are those who deny the deity of Christ, relegating Him instead to a lesser position than God. Yes, Jesus accepted worship. As the second Person of the Trinity, He was and still is worshiped.

From the beginning of Jesus’ life, we see examples of Him being worshiped. As soon as the Magi laid eyes on the infant Christ, “they bowed down and worshiped Him” (Matthew 2:11). The Bible records the initial response Jesus received when He made His triumphal entry into Jerusalem: “So they took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him, crying out, ‘Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel!’” (Matthew 21:9; John 12:13) The word hosanna is a plea for salvation and an expression of adoration. This word used by the crowd is definitely a form of worship.

Just after Jesus amazed the disciples by walking on water, “those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, ‘Truly you are the Son of God’” (Matthew 14:33). Two more memorable examples of Jesus accepting worship occurred just after His resurrection. Some of the women (Matthew 28:8-9; Mark 16:1; Luke 24:10) were on their way to tell the disciples of the resurrection when Jesus met them on their way. When they realized it was He, they “came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him” (Matthew 28:9).

Then there is the case of Thomas, who didn’t believe Jesus had risen from the dead despite the other disciples’ testifying to that fact. It had been about a week since the resurrection, and Thomas still doubted it. Jesus, knowing Thomas doubted, appeared to him and showed him the nail marks in His hands and feet and the wound in His side. How did Thomas respond? “Thomas said to him, ‘My Lord and my God!’” (John 20:28). In none of these instances do we see Jesus telling those worshiping Him to stop, as did mere men and even angels who were being worshiped wrongly by others (Acts 10:25–26; Revelation 19:9–10).

We continue to offer worship to Jesus today by offering ourselves to Him as a living sacrifice—offering ourselves to God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to do with as He sees fit (Romans 12:1–2). Jesus said, “God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth” (John 4:24). We worship God in spirit and truth by obedience to His commands. Worship is not solely about bowing to Jesus, throwing palm branches at His feet, or singing and shouting about our love for Him. Worship is about knowing Him, communing with Him, serving Him, and trusting in Him.

Context for Revelation 4 & 5; 19:1-8

Both of these passages detail scenes of Christ’s worship in heaven. Revelation 5 records John’s vision in heaven just before the Lamb opens the scroll containing the seven seals of judgment to be poured out upon the earth.

Revelation 19:1-6 comes after these judgments, before the return of Christ to the earth to wage war against His enemies (last week’s passage.) It opens with the praise of God for condemning the “great prostitute,” Babylon, which was seen in Revelation 18. Babylon historically is thought to be the empire of Rome. In the future Babylon is believed to be the world system in rebellion against God.

What say you?
What says me . WELL i say JESUS came to SHOW US THE WAY , HE IS THE WAY .
JESUS is the way . AS HE LIVED SO TOO SHOULD WE . HE came to show us the way , and more so , HE ALONE IS THE WAY .
Folks forget that . WHO ELSE could save the world but GOD ALONE .
GOD is righteous . HE alone has said what is righteous . He has determined a day in which he will destroy all that is evil .
GOD is love , so he already determined long ,long ago HOW he was gonna save mankind .
And it was not gonna be by mankind . ADAM FAILED , MANKIND FAILS . BUT NOT GOD .
NOT GOD . HE ALONE WAS GONNA HAVE TO SAVE HIS OWN . HE IS HIS WORD AND THIS IS A FACT .
 

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No, not misreading your post, Jesus is currently receiving worship-and have received worship in the Gospel accounts-why is your post in denial of this?
 
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David, like Moses, is a type of Christ.
no he aint . DAVID HIMSELF rested all HIS HOPE IN THE CHRIST OF GOD .
David spoke of THE CHRIST . david is not a christ , no man is a christ . JESUS ALONE IS CHRIST .
dont let the peoples fool ya . TO save the world there was but one way . GOD WOULD HAVE TO DO IT HIMSELF .
Learn that well .
 

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no he aint . DAVID HIMSELF rested all HIS HOPE IN THE CHRIST OF GOD .
David spoke of THE CHRIST . david is not a christ , no man is a christ . JESUS ALONE IS CHRIST .
dont let the peoples fool ya . TO save the world there was but one way . GOD WOULD HAVE TO DO IT HIMSELF .
Learn that well .

What I learned is that you’re unfamiliar with David typology.
 

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no he aint . DAVID HIMSELF rested all HIS HOPE IN THE CHRIST OF GOD .
David spoke of THE CHRIST . david is not a christ , no man is a christ . JESUS ALONE IS CHRIST .
dont let the peoples fool ya . TO save the world there was but one way . GOD WOULD HAVE TO DO IT HIMSELF .
Learn that well .
You see how the "floodgates" are opening denying the Deity of Christ Jesus @amigo de christo?
 
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No, not misreading your post, Jesus is currently receiving worship-and have received worship in the Gospel accounts-why is your post in denial of this?

I told you that I worship both God and the messianic king.
 
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No, not misreading your post, Jesus is currently receiving worship-and have received worship in the Gospel accounts-why is your post in denial of this?
JESUS IS THE VERY GLORY OF GOD . He who honors the SON , honors the FATHER .
IF mankind could have saved himself then why did mankind FAIL and not prevail .
The created cannot save itself . BUT GOD CAN . Let HE who is without blemish on the inside
be your great high priest . No man can claim to ever once be without sin , without blemish .
BUT GOD CAN . HIS WORD became flesh . HE IS HIS WORD . How was all that was created , created .
GOD SPOKE and it was . GOD IS HIS WORD and HIS WORD IS SPIRIT . THERE IS NO SAVOIR BUT GOD .
Thus let us not marvel that JESUS Didnt correct thomas when HE too said MY LORD and MY GOD .
GOD IS HIS WORD . GOD saved us , not man , not ourselves . GOD saved us .
HIS WORD became flesh and SAVED US . THERE IS NO CHRIST BUT JESUS . And HE ALONE
is who this wee thing gonna point too . No matter how many follow the delusion of the all inclusion and holler
and say buddists , muslims , atheist , agnostics , hindus and whateverdus can find thier own path to GOD
in their own false religion and mindset . SO LONG as i got breath i am gonna correct THAT LIE . FOR IT IS A LIE .
OH my IT IS A LIE . THERE is but one way to be saved . JESUS PREACHED It , the APOSTLES PREACHED it
and all true lambs preach it . BELIEVE YE ON CHRIST JESUS .
But do beware for many who USE HIS name are preaching another jesus and another gospel . AND IT JUST WONT , CANT
and DONT save them . rather it shall condmen them . FOR THEY BELIEVED NOT on HE WHOM GOD DID SEND .
THEY BELIEVED NOT on GOD .
The words that is speak , the works that i do , THE FATHER DOETH . GOD WORKED THROUGH HIS WORD
to bring salvation to the peoples . HE ALONE , HE ALONE is who the flea of a dog gonna point too .
SO what if the folks think me a dumb uneducated clown who cant count to twenty without shoes off
and who cant spell KAT , oh wait i mean cat lest he look in a dictionary . ALL that matters to me
is that they are SAVED . SO I POINT TO CHRIST ALONE . CAUSE FAITH IN HE ALONE SAVES .
 

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What I learned is that you’re unfamiliar with David typology.
Jesus Christ, our great God and Savior is no typology @Matthias-you have deflected in most of what I have posted to you-And Messiah is greater than any "typology" and worthy of our highest worship and eulogies.
I'm beginning to see loopholes in your link to me brother-and can be easily refuted-yet correction is not easily accepted.

What about this-"Jesus Christ, our great God and Savior?" I want to see how you are going to "reason" this away, or surprise me, by concurring.
 
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What I learned is that you’re unfamiliar with David typology.
OH i am familiar with it . Its just i preach CHRISTOLOGY . The same one DAVID HIMSELF pointed too .
Ye shall not leave my soul in hell nor suffer thy HOLY ONE to see corruption .
David fell short of the glory of GOD . BUT THE GLORY OF GOD cannot fall short . JESUS IS THE GLORY OF GOD .
The very GLORY OF GOD . The WORD became flesh and GOD is HIS WORD .
 

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SO what if the folks think me a dumb uneducated clown who cant count to twenty without shoes off
You are not a dumb, uneducated clown my brother-your pathos, zest and zeal for the cause of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus is reverberating into the inner recesses of my heart, and in others-and throughout the heavens!

keep this up!
 
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Jesus Christ, our great God and Savior is no typology @Matthias-you have deflected in most of what I have posted to you-And Messiah is greater than any "typology" and worthy of our highest worship and eulogies.
I'm beginning to see loopholes in your link to me brother-and can be easily refuted-yet correction is not easily accepted.

What about this-"Jesus Christ, our great God and Savior?" I want to see how you are going to "reason" this away, or surprise me, by concurring.
Might wanna remind him of first timothy chapter three verse sixteen . Exactly . WHO was manifested in the flesh .
exactly .
 

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OH i am familiar with it . Its just i preach CHRISTOLOGY . The same one DAVID HIMSELF pointed too .
Ye shall not leave my soul in hell nor suffer thy HOLY ONE to see corruption .
David fell short of the glory of GOD . BUT THE GLORY OF GOD cannot fall short . JESUS IS THE GLORY OF GOD .
The very GLORY OF GOD . The WORD became flesh and GOD is HIS WORD .
Bereshis (in the Beginning) was the Dvar Hashem [YESHAYAH 55:11; BERESHIS 1:1], and the Dvar Hashem was agav (along with) Hashem [MISHLE 8:30; 30:4], and the Dvar Hashem was nothing less, by nature, than Elohim! [Psa 56:11(10); Yn 17:5; Rev. 19:13]

Isa 55:11 So shall My Davar (the Word of Hashem) be that goeth forth out of My mouth; He shall not return unto Me reikam (empty, void) but He [the Davar Hashem, see Yn 1:1,14] shall do that which I please, and He [the Davar Hashem] shall accomplish the purpose whereto I sent Him.

In the beginning Elohim created hashomayim (the heavens, Himel) and haaretz (the earth).

Psa 56:10 (11) In Elohim will I praise
His Word; in Hashem will I praise His Word [Yn 1:1; Mishlei 30:4; Ps 33:6; Mishlei 8:30].

Notice the agitation from those denying the Deity of Jesus!
 
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Might wanna remind him of first timothy chapter three verse sixteen . Exactly . WHO was manifested in the flesh .
exactly .
1Ti 3:15 If I delay, you may have da’as of the halachah in the Beis Hashem, which is the Adat HaEl Chai (the Community of the Living G-d), the ammud (pillar) and yesod (foundation) of HaEmes.
1Ti 3:16 And confessedly great is the sod of chasidus [in Moshiach 3:9], who was manifested in basar, was vindicated [proven just] by the Ruach HaKodesh, was seen by malachim, was proclaimed among the Nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in kavod.
 
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Bereshis (in the Beginning) was the Dvar Hashem [YESHAYAH 55:11; BERESHIS 1:1], and the Dvar Hashem was agav (along with) Hashem [MISHLE 8:30; 30:4], and the Dvar Hashem was nothing less, by nature, than Elohim! [Psa 56:11(10); Yn 17:5; Rev. 19:13]

Isa 55:11 So shall My Davar (the Word of Hashem) be that goeth forth out of My mouth; He shall not return unto Me reikam (empty, void) but He [the Davar Hashem, see Yn 1:1,14] shall do that which I please, and He [the Davar Hashem] shall accomplish the purpose whereto I sent Him.

In the beginning Elohim created hashomayim (the heavens, Himel) and haaretz (the earth).

Psa 56:10 (11) In Elohim will I praise
His Word; in Hashem will I praise His Word [Yn 1:1; Mishlei 30:4; Ps 33:6; Mishlei 8:30].

Notice the agitation from those denying the Deity of Jesus!
Many will come with all sorts of ology and gies . But they have come to directly attack the diety of Christ and cannot be heeded .
What man could not do GOD DID for man . That all who would believe in HIM would be saved .
Man cannot live up to the glory of GOD . But GODCAN . HE IS HIS OWN GLORY and JESUS IS THE GLORY OF GOD .
Doing what man could not do . To bring man to GOD . to reconcile man unto GOD .
But he whose faith is not in GOD will never please GOD . And if ones faith is not in CHRIST , WELL ITS NOT IN GOD .
We cant cliam to have faith in GOD and yet have no faith in HIS WORD .
Abraham believed GOD . IF GOD said something , Abraham believed it .
Abraham even had the very gospel preached to him . And in thy seed shall all nations of the world be blessed .
And in thy seed , not as of many , but as of one . THAT IS JESUS CHRIST . Abraham rejoiced to see my day .
HE SAW IT . HE SAW IT and HE rejoiced . YE are not yet even fifty years old
and yet you have seen abraham . David nor any other prophet could have ever said such a thing .
David never saw abraham . Joshua never saw abraham . not even moses saw abraham .YET
JESUS says before ABRAHAM was ......................I AM . Before the world ever was , JESUS WAS AND IS .
I am the first and the last , i am alpha and omega . How come GOD didnt correct JESUS when he told this to the church .
Exactly . GOD IS HIS WORD . IF we deny HIS WORD WE DENY GOD HIMSELF .
 

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1Ti 3:15 If I delay, you may have da’as of the halachah in the Beis Hashem, which is the Adat HaEl Chai (the Community of the Living G-d), the ammud (pillar) and yesod (foundation) of HaEmes.
1Ti 3:16 And confessedly great is the sod of chasidus [in Moshiach 3:9], who was manifested in basar, was vindicated [proven just] by the Ruach HaKodesh, was seen by malachim, was proclaimed among the Nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in kavod.
yep . great is the MYSTERY OF GODLINESS . GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH . JOHN reminds us of this .
And GOD was the WORD . the WORD was manifest in the flesh .
POINT TO CHRIST JESUS till the last and final breath . He who honors the SON honors the FATHER who sent HIM .
 

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Bereshis (in the Beginning) was the Dvar Hashem [YESHAYAH 55:11; BERESHIS 1:1], and the Dvar Hashem was agav (along with) Hashem [MISHLE 8:30; 30:4], and the Dvar Hashem was nothing less, by nature, than Elohim! [Psa 56:11(10); Yn 17:5; Rev. 19:13]

Isa 55:11 So shall My Davar (the Word of Hashem) be that goeth forth out of My mouth; He shall not return unto Me reikam (empty, void) but He [the Davar Hashem, see Yn 1:1,14] shall do that which I please, and He [the Davar Hashem] shall accomplish the purpose whereto I sent Him.

In the beginning Elohim created hashomayim (the heavens, Himel) and haaretz (the earth).

Psa 56:10 (11) In Elohim will I praise
His Word; in Hashem will I praise His Word [Yn 1:1; Mishlei 30:4; Ps 33:6; Mishlei 8:30].

Notice the agitation from those denying the Deity of Jesus!
We should also read the letter to the colossians . Ever wonder why it says HE created all things .
GOD IS HIS WORD . HE TRULY IS . GOD SPOKE and it was . JESUS IS THE WORD OF GOD .
 

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Many will come with all sorts of ology and gies . But they have come to directly attack the diety of Christ and cannot be heeded .
What man could not do GOD DID for man . That all who would believe in HIM would be saved .
Man cannot live up to the glory of GOD . But GODCAN . HE IS HIS OWN GLORY and JESUS IS THE GLORY OF GOD .
Doing what man could not do . To bring man to GOD . to reconcile man unto GOD .
But he whose faith is not in GOD will never please GOD . And if ones faith is not in CHRIST , WELL ITS NOT IN GOD .
We cant cliam to have faith in GOD and yet have no faith in HIS WORD .
Abraham believed GOD . IF GOD said something , Abraham believed it .
Abraham even had the very gospel preached to him . And in thy seed shall all nations of the world be blessed .
And in thy seed , not as of many , but as of one . THAT IS JESUS CHRIST . Abraham rejoiced to see my day .
HE SAW IT . HE SAW IT and HE rejoiced . YE are not yet even fifty years old
and yet you have seen abraham . David nor any other prophet could have ever said such a thing .
David never saw abraham . Joshua never saw abraham . not even moses saw abraham .YET
JESUS says before ABRAHAM was ......................I AM . Before the world ever was , JESUS WAS AND IS .
I am the first and the last , i am alpha and omega . How come GOD didnt correct JESUS when he told this to the church .
Exactly . GOD IS HIS WORD . IF we deny HIS WORD WE DENY GOD HIMSELF .
Amen!
Was the Gospel preached in the Old Testament?
The gospel was taught, preached and proclaimed in the Old Testament just as it is in the New Testament. Here is one example for you to consider. The gospel was proclaimed to Abraham by the pre-incarnate Christ in the message, “And in you shall all the families of the earth be blessed,” Genesis 12:3.


Where in the Old Testament does Jesus say he is God?
John 8:58 “Jesus answered them: 'I solemnly declare it: before Abraham came to be, I AM.” [This was the name God gave himself when he first communicated with Moses, Exodus 3:14 “God replied, 'I am who am. ' Then he added, 'This is what you shall tell the Israelites: I AM sent me to you.
 

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OH i am familiar with it . Its just i preach CHRISTOLOGY . The same one DAVID HIMSELF pointed too .
Ye shall not leave my soul in hell nor suffer thy HOLY ONE to see corruption .
David fell short of the glory of GOD . BUT THE GLORY OF GOD cannot fall short . JESUS IS THE GLORY OF GOD .
The very GLORY OF GOD . The WORD became flesh and GOD is HIS WORD .

Typology and Christology aren’t opposed to one another.
 

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I told you that I worship both God and the messianic king.
That's all I wanted to know-

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


1 ) "And without controversy" (kai homologoumenos) "And confessedly," beyond successful testamentary contradiction, as a case made out, sustained by incontrovertible legal evidence;

2) "Great is the mystery of godliness" (mega estin to tes eusebeias musterion) "Great is the mystery of piety, godliness." The term "mystery" is used to express both the divine and human aspects of the Christian faith in manifestation; of Jesus Christ, Col_1:27, "Christ in you.

a) "God was manifest in the flesh" (hos epanerothe en sarki) "Who was manifested in flesh." God in Christ, Joh_1:1; Joh_1:14; Gal_4:4-5; Heb_1:1-3. "God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself," 2Co_5:10.
b) "Justified in the Spirit" (edikaiothe en pneumati) "Justified in (the) Spirit," in four ways:
1) begotten of the Holy Spirit, Luk_1:35; Mat_1:18; Mat_1:21;
2) when baptized, Mat_3:16; Joh_1:31-34;
3) announced His ministry, Luk_4:16-21;
4) when raised from the dead, Rom_8:11.
c) "Seen of angels" (ophthe angelois) "Was seen by angels, “ on four occasions:
1) at His birth, Luk_2:9-13;
2) at the end of His temptation, Mat_4:11;
3) at His resurrection, and
4) at His ascension, Act_1:9-11.
d) "Preached unto the Gentiles" (ekeruchthe en ethnesin) "Was heralded or preached among nations, Gentiles, peoples," on four occasions:
1) to the Samaritan woman, Joh_4:1-54;
2) to the Syrophoenecian woman, Mar_7:26;
3) to Cornelius' house, Act_10:1-48;
4) Paul, Act_13:46-48; Rom_1:14-16.
e) "Believed on in the world" (episteuthe en kosmo) "Was believed on in the world." Joh_4:39-42; Joh_1:11-12. Not only did the apostles and church believe on Him, but also many of the Samaritans, half-breed of races believed on Him as Savior and Lord.
f) "Received up into glory" (anelemphthe en dokse) "And was taken up in glory," to the glory He had with the Father before the world was; Joh_17:1; Joh_17:5; Luk_24:50-51; Act_1:9-11; Heb_1:3; Heb_10:12-13; 1Pe_3:22.

Great is this continuing mystery Of godliness or piety, as our Lord prepares a place for His own, Joh_14:1-2, and makes intercession and advocacy to the Father in behalf of every believer, Heb_7:25; 1Jn_2:1-2.


God manifested in the flesh The Vulgate’s translator, by leaving out the name of God, refers what follows to “the mystery,” but altogether unskillfully and inappropriately, as will clearly be seen on a bare perusal, though he has Erasmus on his side, who, however, destroys the authority of his own views, so that it is unnecessary for me to refute it.

All the Greek copies undoubtedly agree in this rendering, “God manifested in the flesh.” But granting that Paul did not express the name of God, still any one who shall carefully examine the whole matter, will acknowledge that the name of Christ ought to be supplied. For my own part, I have no hesitation in following the reading which has been adopted in the Greek copies. In calling the manifestation of Christ, such as he afterwards describes it, a “great mystery,” the reason is obvious; for this is “the height, depth, and breadth of wisdom,” which he has elsewhere mentioned, (Eph_3:18,) by which all our senses must unavoidably be overwhelmed.

Let us now examine the various clauses in their order. He could not have spoken more appropriately about the person of Christ than in these words, “God manifested in the flesh.” First, we have here an express testimony of both natures; for he declares at the same time that Christ is true God and true man. Secondly, he points out the distinction between the two natures, when, on the one hand, he calls him God, and, on the other, expresses his “manifestation, in the flesh.” Thirdly, he asserts the unity of the person, when he declares, that it is one and the same who was God, and who has been manifested in the flesh.

Thus, by this single passage, the true and orthodox faith is powerfully defended against Arius, Marcion, Nestorius, and Eutyches. There is also great emphasis in the contrast of the two words, God in flesh How wide is the difference between God and man! And yet in Christ we behold the infinite glory of God united to our polluted flesh in such a manner that they become one. (67)