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Is Universalism Unorthodox

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What saith the word of God!

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 AND WHOSOEVER WAS NOT FOUND WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

Believe the word, not man!
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You included this verse here from Revelation 20, you did not include Revelation 21, or 22, can I ask why?

Because these verses also to exist in the realm of the Bible - which doesn't pertain to Universalism but does pertain to reconciliation. @dev553344, @Rita forgive me if this is offtopic.

I also don't care if people give me a like for confirmation biases.

Revelation 21​

Young's Literal Translation​

21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth did pass away, and the sea is not any more;
2 and I, John, saw the holy city -- new Jerusalem -- coming down from God out of the heaven, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband;
3 and I heard a great voice out of the heaven, saying, `Lo, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and He will tabernacle with them, and they shall be His peoples, and God Himself shall be with them -- their God,
4 and God shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and the death shall not be any more, nor sorrow, nor crying, nor shall there be any more pain, because the first things did go away.'
5 And He who is sitting upon the throne said, `Lo, new I make all things; and He saith to me, `Write, because these words are true and stedfast;'
6 and He said to me, `It hath been done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End; I, to him who is thirsting, will give of the fountain of the water of the life freely;
7 he who is overcoming shall inherit all things, and I will be to him -- a God, and he shall be to me -- the son,
8 and to fearful, and unstedfast, and abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the liars,


their part [is]


in the lake that is burning with fire and brimstone, which is a second death.'

9 And there came unto me one of the seven messengers, who have the seven vials that are full of the seven last plagues, and he spake with me, saying, `Come, I will shew thee the bride of the Lamb -- the wife,'
10 and he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and did shew to me the great city, the holy Jerusalem, coming down out of the heaven from God,
11 having the glory of God, and her light [is] like a stone most precious, as a jasper stone clear as crystal,
12 having also a wall great and high, having twelve gates, and at the gates twelve messengers, and names written thereon, which are [those] of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel,
13 at the east three gates, at the north three gates, at the south three gates, at the west three gates;
14 and the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15 And he who is speaking with me had a golden reed, that he may measure the city, and its gates, and its wall;
16 and the city lieth square, and the length of it is as great as the breadth; and he did measure the city with the reed -- furlongs twelve thousand; the length, and the breadth, and the height, of it are equal;
17 and he measured its wall, an hundred forty-four cubits, the measure of a man, that is, of the messenger;
18 and the building of its wall was jasper, and the city [is] pure gold -- like to pure glass;
19 and the foundations of the wall of the city with every precious stone have been adorned; the first foundation jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, chalcedony; the fourth, emerald;
20 the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, topaz; the tenth, chrysoprasus; the eleventh, jacinth; the twelfth, amethyst.
21 And the twelve gates [are] twelve pearls, each several one of the gates was of one pearl; and the broad-place of the city [is] pure gold -- as transparent glass.
22 And a sanctuary I did not see in it, for the Lord God, the Almighty, is its sanctuary, and the Lamb,
23 and the city hath no need of the sun, nor of the moon, that they may shine in it; for the glory of God did lighten it, and the lamp of it [is] the Lamb;
24 and the nations of the saved in its light shall walk, and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it,
25 and its gates shall not at all be shut by day, for night shall not be there;
26 and they shall bring the glory and the honour of the nations into it;
27 and there may not at all enter into it any thing defiling and doing abomination, and a lie, but -- those written in the scroll of the life of the Lamb.

And then you have

Revelation 22​

Young's Literal Translation​

22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, bright as crystal, going forth out of the throne of God and of the Lamb:
2 in the midst of its broad place, and of the river on this side and on that, [is] a tree of life, yielding twelve fruits, in each several month rendering its fruits, and the leaves of the tree [are] for the service of the nations;
3 and any curse there shall not be any more, and the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him,
4 and they shall see His face, and His name [is] upon their foreheads,
5 and night shall not be there, and they have no need of a lamp and light of a sun, because the Lord God doth give them light, and they shall reign -- to the ages of the ages.
6 And he said to me, `These words [are] stedfast and true, and the Lord God of the holy prophets did send His messenger to shew to His servants the things that it behoveth to come quickly:
7 Lo, I come quickly; happy [is] he who is keeping the words of the prophecy of this scroll.'
8 And I, John, am he who is seeing these things and hearing, and when I heard and beheld, I fell down to bow before the feet of the messenger who is shewing me these things;
9 and he saith to me, `See -- not; for fellow-servant of thee am I, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of those keeping the words of this scroll; before God bow.'
10 And he saith to me, `Thou mayest not seal the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is nigh;
11 he who is unrighteous -- let him be unrighteous still, and he who is filthy -- let him be filthy still, and he who is righteous -- let him be declared righteous still, and he who is sanctified -- let him be sanctified still:
12 And lo, I come quickly, and my reward [is] with me, to render to each as his work shall be;
13 I am the Alpha and the Omega -- the Beginning and End -- the First and the Last.
14 `Happy are those doing His commands that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of the life, and by the gates they may enter into the city;
15 and without [are] the dogs, and the sorcerers, and the whoremongers, and the murderers, and the idolaters, and every one who is loving and is doing a lie.
16 `I, Jesus did send my messenger to testify to you these things concerning the assemblies; I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright and morning star!
17 And the Spirit and the Bride say, Come; and he who is hearing -- let him say, Come; and he who is thirsting -- let him come; and he who is willing -- let him take the water of life freely.
18 `For I testify to every one hearing the words of the prophecy of this scroll, if any one may add unto these, God shall add to him the plagues that have been written in this scroll,
19 and if any one may take away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the scroll of the life, and out of the holy city, and the things that have been written in this scroll;'
20 he saith -- who is testifying these things -- `Yes, I come quickly!' Amen! Yes, be coming, Lord Jesus!
21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [is] with you all. Amen.


I just wanna know why people refuse to ever look in to these last two chapters for whatever reason.

They just stop at 20.

It seems to me God will provide a place for unbelievers and believers all while doing away with whats mention revelation 20. Because after that judgement ; everything is made new.

I just wanna know why people leave these parts out? And how do you explain it?

Probably cant talk it about here but its unfair and unbiblical to leave this narrative out… just cause people dont believe it is ready to be applied or whatever…
 
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You included this verse here from Revelation 20, you did not include Revelation 21, or 22, can I ask why?

Because these verses also to exist in the realm of the Bible - which doesn't pertain to Universalism but does pertain to reconciliation. @dev553344, @Rita forgive me if this is offtopic.

I also don't care if people give me a like for confirmation biases.

Revelation 21​

Young's Literal Translation​

21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth did pass away, and the sea is not any more;
2 and I, John, saw the holy city -- new Jerusalem -- coming down from God out of the heaven, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband;
3 and I heard a great voice out of the heaven, saying, `Lo, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and He will tabernacle with them, and they shall be His peoples, and God Himself shall be with them -- their God,
4 and God shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and the death shall not be any more, nor sorrow, nor crying, nor shall there be any more pain, because the first things did go away.'
5 And He who is sitting upon the throne said, `Lo, new I make all things; and He saith to me, `Write, because these words are true and stedfast;'
6 and He said to me, `It hath been done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End; I, to him who is thirsting, will give of the fountain of the water of the life freely;
7 he who is overcoming shall inherit all things, and I will be to him -- a God, and he shall be to me -- the son,
8 and to fearful, and unstedfast, and abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the liars,


their part [is]


in the lake that is burning with fire and brimstone, which is a second death.'

9 And there came unto me one of the seven messengers, who have the seven vials that are full of the seven last plagues, and he spake with me, saying, `Come, I will shew thee the bride of the Lamb -- the wife,'
10 and he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and did shew to me the great city, the holy Jerusalem, coming down out of the heaven from God,
11 having the glory of God, and her light [is] like a stone most precious, as a jasper stone clear as crystal,
12 having also a wall great and high, having twelve gates, and at the gates twelve messengers, and names written thereon, which are [those] of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel,
13 at the east three gates, at the north three gates, at the south three gates, at the west three gates;
14 and the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15 And he who is speaking with me had a golden reed, that he may measure the city, and its gates, and its wall;
16 and the city lieth square, and the length of it is as great as the breadth; and he did measure the city with the reed -- furlongs twelve thousand; the length, and the breadth, and the height, of it are equal;
17 and he measured its wall, an hundred forty-four cubits, the measure of a man, that is, of the messenger;
18 and the building of its wall was jasper, and the city [is] pure gold -- like to pure glass;
19 and the foundations of the wall of the city with every precious stone have been adorned; the first foundation jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, chalcedony; the fourth, emerald;
20 the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, topaz; the tenth, chrysoprasus; the eleventh, jacinth; the twelfth, amethyst.
21 And the twelve gates [are] twelve pearls, each several one of the gates was of one pearl; and the broad-place of the city [is] pure gold -- as transparent glass.
22 And a sanctuary I did not see in it, for the Lord God, the Almighty, is its sanctuary, and the Lamb,
23 and the city hath no need of the sun, nor of the moon, that they may shine in it; for the glory of God did lighten it, and the lamp of it [is] the Lamb;
24 and the nations of the saved in its light shall walk, and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it,
25 and its gates shall not at all be shut by day, for night shall not be there;
26 and they shall bring the glory and the honour of the nations into it;
27 and there may not at all enter into it any thing defiling and doing abomination, and a lie, but -- those written in the scroll of the life of the Lamb.

And then you have

Revelation 22​

Young's Literal Translation​

22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, bright as crystal, going forth out of the throne of God and of the Lamb:
2 in the midst of its broad place, and of the river on this side and on that, [is] a tree of life, yielding twelve fruits, in each several month rendering its fruits, and the leaves of the tree [are] for the service of the nations;
3 and any curse there shall not be any more, and the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him,
4 and they shall see His face, and His name [is] upon their foreheads,
5 and night shall not be there, and they have no need of a lamp and light of a sun, because the Lord God doth give them light, and they shall reign -- to the ages of the ages.
6 And he said to me, `These words [are] stedfast and true, and the Lord God of the holy prophets did send His messenger to shew to His servants the things that it behoveth to come quickly:
7 Lo, I come quickly; happy [is] he who is keeping the words of the prophecy of this scroll.'
8 And I, John, am he who is seeing these things and hearing, and when I heard and beheld, I fell down to bow before the feet of the messenger who is shewing me these things;
9 and he saith to me, `See -- not; for fellow-servant of thee am I, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of those keeping the words of this scroll; before God bow.'
10 And he saith to me, `Thou mayest not seal the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is nigh;
11 he who is unrighteous -- let him be unrighteous still, and he who is filthy -- let him be filthy still, and he who is righteous -- let him be declared righteous still, and he who is sanctified -- let him be sanctified still:
12 And lo, I come quickly, and my reward [is] with me, to render to each as his work shall be;
13 I am the Alpha and the Omega -- the Beginning and End -- the First and the Last.
14 `Happy are those doing His commands that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of the life, and by the gates they may enter into the city;
15 and without [are] the dogs, and the sorcerers, and the whoremongers, and the murderers, and the idolaters, and every one who is loving and is doing a lie.
16 `I, Jesus did send my messenger to testify to you these things concerning the assemblies; I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright and morning star!
17 And the Spirit and the Bride say, Come; and he who is hearing -- let him say, Come; and he who is thirsting -- let him come; and he who is willing -- let him take the water of life freely.
18 `For I testify to every one hearing the words of the prophecy of this scroll, if any one may add unto these, God shall add to him the plagues that have been written in this scroll,
19 and if any one may take away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the scroll of the life, and out of the holy city, and the things that have been written in this scroll;'
20 he saith -- who is testifying these things -- `Yes, I come quickly!' Amen! Yes, be coming, Lord Jesus!
21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [is] with you all. Amen.


I just wanna know why people refuse to ever look in to these last two chapters for whatever reason.

They just stop at 20.

It seems to me God will provide a place for unbelievers and believers all while doing away with whats mention revelation 20. Because after that judgement ; everything is made new.

I just wanna know why people leave these parts out? And how do you explain it?

Probably cant talk it about here but its unfair and unbiblical to leave this narrative out… just cause people dont believe it is ready to be applied or whatever…
I quoted what I quoted.
If you disagree that's up to you.
We each will give account of what God says not what we want to hear.
You freely posted your own thoughts.
Good day.
 

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I quoted what I quoted.
If you disagree that's up to you.
We each will give account of what God says not what we want to hear.
You freely posted your own thoughts.
Good day.
That doesn't help... it's really sad too.

Oh well you have a good day as well.
 

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What do you make of this?

Mark 9:47-49 NIV
And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out.
It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye
than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48 where
“‘the worms that eat them do not die,
and the fire is not quenched.’[a]
49 Everyone will be salted with fire.
The first part is means to stop sinning and remove the offender that causes that, after Pentecost, it means accept Jesus as your personal savior, The second part, Jesus describes a worm 3 times that will torment someone in Hell; because the person is a sinner and doesn't accept Jesus as his savior. If a person accepts Jesus as his Lord and Savior, hell isn't a problem for a believer in Christ.
 

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Here you go. Young's Literal Translation.

Matthew 25:46 YLT
And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during.'
Thanks for pointing out they are the exact same Greek term! NEVER ending! Just like eternal life!
 

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The first part is means to stop sinning and remove the offender that causes that, after Pentecost, it means accept Jesus as your personal savior, The second part, Jesus describes a worm 3 times that will torment someone in Hell; because the person is a sinner and doesn't accept Jesus as his savior. If a person accepts Jesus as his Lord and Savior, hell isn't a problem for a believer in Christ.
Thanks.
Does that mean everyone goes to "hell"? (temporarily)
(which would support Universalism)
Who does the "Everyone" in verse 49 refer to?

Mark 9:47-49 NIV
And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out.
It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye
than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48 where
“‘the worms that eat them do not die,
and the fire is not quenched.’[a]
49 Everyone will be salted with fire.
 

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@St. SteVen please stay on topic. Posting information from other threads is not on topic with this thread.
 

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I'm not familiar with Eastern Orthodox theology, so I don't know if they would consider universalism as part of their beliefs.

I did have an Armenian (Armenian, not Arminian) friend who was a member of the Greek Orthodox church. I should look him up and ask him.
 
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Why would you INFER that I have NOT studied this out!
Did you miss post #2 ???
Do you need more?
I have reams of study notes to pour onto this topic, if you like.
But don't accuse me of NOT doing my homework!
Yes I have noticed that some people take a few verses and try to build a belief on it all the while ignoring the rest of the bible that counters their ideas. Such is the case with OSAS, Universalism, etc.

We still have several verses that say hell is eternal, and heaven being eternal using the same word in any translation. I don't see that you've made a valid argument that the bible supports universalism. Please read this. 12 Questions for the Would-Be Universalist
 

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Thanks.
Does that mean everyone goes to "hell"? (temporarily)
(which would support Universalism)
Who does the "Everyone" in verse 49 refer to?

Mark 9:47-49 NIV
And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out.
It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye
than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48 where
“‘the worms that eat them do not die,
and the fire is not quenched.’[a]
49 Everyone will be salted with fire.
There are just as many bible verses in the bible that support Universalism and Orthodox views. However, by my Salvation through Jesus Christ, means the best is the narrow road, and not the wide road.

Verse 49, in my opinion, refers to both the repentant sinner( saved by Grace) and the non repentant sinner. Salt is purity and cleansing, therefore in this life of Believers, the sanctification process is changing us to be more and more like Christ (trials and tribulations) and, to be joint heirs with Him. I can't guess what will happen in hell, but those in hell will be salted by fire too.
 
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Yes I have noticed that some people take a few verses and try to build a belief on it all the while ignoring the rest of the bible that counters their ideas. Such is the case with OSAS, Universalism, etc. I whole bunch of false ideas can come from that method.

We still have several verses that say hell is eternal, and heaven being eternal using the same word in any translation. I don't see that you've made a valid argument that the bible supports universalism. Please read this if your studied instead of just skipping it. 12 Questions for the Would-Be Universalist
Exactly!
 
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Universalism is not Biblical. And by that I mean it doesn't make sense of the general tenor of the Bible. No one reading the Bible from start to finish would contemplate the idea of universalism. If you see universalism in the Bible, you bring it with you.
 

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@St. SteVen if you think the bible supports Universalism than perhaps you should do more study of the bible. Have a look at this: 12 Questions for the Would-Be Universalist
Perhaps I should answer your uninformed and lame website link questions. (grr...)


1. How should we interpret Jesus’s words regarding ‘hell’ or ‘Gehenna,’ ‘the outer darkness,’ ‘the fire that is not quenched,’ ‘the worm that does not die,’ and the like?​


These are obvious Bible mistranslation and bad doctrine issues.

2. If hell is a temporary state but heaven is a forever state, then why are both denoted by the same word as ‘eternal’?​


Most of that hinges on the mistranslation of Aionios as "eternal" and "everlasting" instead for an Age, or "Age during".

3. What about the ‘two ways’ theme in the Old and New Testaments?​


Usually refers to life in the here and now, not the afterlife.

4. Why did Jesus need to die such a horrible, agonizing death on the cross for our sins?​


Jesus paid the death penalty for all of humankind. Hopefully we can agree on that!

5. How should we interpret the end-times teaching of Revelation?​


Some say that it has already taken place. Not a UR position necessarily.
And there is support for UR in Revelation. Every tribe tongue and nation. The healing of the nations.
Should anyone NOT be included?

6. Doesn’t the New Testament show that salvation is connected to faith?​


Yes, so does UR.

7. What’s the historic teaching on final salvation in the major branches of Christendom?​


UR is not compatible with the CLAIMS of "the historic teaching", which is false.

8. What would happen if Christian congregations or denominations embraced universalism?​


Much to say about that. It would signal the end of tribalism between churches and usher in love for ALL of humankind.
Would that be a bad thing?

9. What’s the final destiny of Satan and demons?​


Opinions on this differ between UR proponents.
The Bible says that EVERY tongue will confess and EVERY knee will bow.
Jesus taught us to love our enemies. The forgiveness of Satan would be the ULTIMATE triumph of grace.

10. Can sinful people make atonement or satisfaction for their own sins through their own sufferings?​


No need to do what has already been done.

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

11. Is it plausible to believe there will be a ‘second chance’ for salvation after death?​


From that perspective, countless billions NEVER had a "first chance".
UR is NOT a "second chance". Nothing is left to chance.

12. Is universalism compatible with the Christian mandate to preach the gospel, practice self-denial, and suffer for Christ and the gospel?​


Yes. Even more so than most Christians that believe there is ABSOLUTELY no benefit to being a Christian in the here and now.
 

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Perhaps I should answer your uninformed and lame website link questions. (grr...)


1. How should we interpret Jesus’s words regarding ‘hell’ or ‘Gehenna,’ ‘the outer darkness,’ ‘the fire that is not quenched,’ ‘the worm that does not die,’ and the like?​


These are obvious Bible mistranslation and bad doctrine issues.

2. If hell is a temporary state but heaven is a forever state, then why are both denoted by the same word as ‘eternal’?​


Most of that hinges on the mistranslation of Aionios as "eternal" and "everlasting" instead for an Age, or "Age during".

3. What about the ‘two ways’ theme in the Old and New Testaments?​


Usually refers to life in the here and now, not the afterlife.

4. Why did Jesus need to die such a horrible, agonizing death on the cross for our sins?​


Jesus paid the death penalty for all of humankind. Hopefully we can agree on that!

5. How should we interpret the end-times teaching of Revelation?​


Some say that it has already taken place. Not a UR position necessarily.
And there is support for UR in Revelation. Every tribe tongue and nation. The healing of the nations.
Should anyone NOT be included?

6. Doesn’t the New Testament show that salvation is connected to faith?​


Yes, so does UR.

7. What’s the historic teaching on final salvation in the major branches of Christendom?​


UR is not compatible with the CLAIMS of "the historic teaching", which is false.

8. What would happen if Christian congregations or denominations embraced universalism?​


Much to say about that. It would signal the end of tribalism between churches and usher in love for ALL of humankind.
Would that be a bad thing?

9. What’s the final destiny of Satan and demons?​


Opinions on this differ between UR proponents.
The Bible says that EVERY tongue will confess and EVERY knee will bow.
Jesus taught us to love our enemies. The forgiveness of Satan would be the ULTIMATE triumph of grace.

10. Can sinful people make atonement or satisfaction for their own sins through their own sufferings?​


No need to do what has already been done.

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

11. Is it plausible to believe there will be a ‘second chance’ for salvation after death?​


From that perspective, countless billions NEVER had a "first chance".
UR is NOT a "second chance". Nothing is left to chance.

12. Is universalism compatible with the Christian mandate to preach the gospel, practice self-denial, and suffer for Christ and the gospel?​


Yes. Even more so than most Christians that believe there is ABSOLUTELY no benefit to being a Christian in the here and now.
We will disagree on translation issues. Here's another one for anyone wanting to believe that hell isn't eternal: 7 Bible verses about Hell Is Everlasting
 

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Perhaps I should answer your uninformed and lame website link questions. (grr...)


1. How should we interpret Jesus’s words regarding ‘hell’ or ‘Gehenna,’ ‘the outer darkness,’ ‘the fire that is not quenched,’ ‘the worm that does not die,’ and the like?​


These are obvious Bible mistranslation and bad doctrine issues.

2. If hell is a temporary state but heaven is a forever state, then why are both denoted by the same word as ‘eternal’?​


Most of that hinges on the mistranslation of Aionios as "eternal" and "everlasting" instead for an Age, or "Age during".

3. What about the ‘two ways’ theme in the Old and New Testaments?​


Usually refers to life in the here and now, not the afterlife.

4. Why did Jesus need to die such a horrible, agonizing death on the cross for our sins?​


Jesus paid the death penalty for all of humankind. Hopefully we can agree on that!

5. How should we interpret the end-times teaching of Revelation?​


Some say that it has already taken place. Not a UR position necessarily.
And there is support for UR in Revelation. Every tribe tongue and nation. The healing of the nations.
Should anyone NOT be included?

6. Doesn’t the New Testament show that salvation is connected to faith?​


Yes, so does UR.

7. What’s the historic teaching on final salvation in the major branches of Christendom?​


UR is not compatible with the CLAIMS of "the historic teaching", which is false.

8. What would happen if Christian congregations or denominations embraced universalism?​


Much to say about that. It would signal the end of tribalism between churches and usher in love for ALL of humankind.
Would that be a bad thing?

9. What’s the final destiny of Satan and demons?​


Opinions on this differ between UR proponents.
The Bible says that EVERY tongue will confess and EVERY knee will bow.
Jesus taught us to love our enemies. The forgiveness of Satan would be the ULTIMATE triumph of grace.

10. Can sinful people make atonement or satisfaction for their own sins through their own sufferings?​


No need to do what has already been done.

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

11. Is it plausible to believe there will be a ‘second chance’ for salvation after death?​


From that perspective, countless billions NEVER had a "first chance".
UR is NOT a "second chance". Nothing is left to chance.

12. Is universalism compatible with the Christian mandate to preach the gospel, practice self-denial, and suffer for Christ and the gospel?​


Yes. Even more so than most Christians that believe there is ABSOLUTELY no benefit to being a Christian in the here and now.
What is "obvious" is that you're attacking our Bible, trying to rewrite it!
 
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In the context of whether or not Universalism is orthodox or not, I think using things that are not commonly accepted translations of the word eternal or the bible as a whole, hardly supports the idea that Universalism is orthodox.
 
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