That's spiritual extortion.But if we do not receive his gift. we will suffer what we deserve.
It's not a free gift if it is "hell to pay" for not receiving it.
What we deserve? For not receiving a free gift?
What's wrong with this picture?
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That's spiritual extortion.But if we do not receive his gift. we will suffer what we deserve.
Our salvation has nothing to do with us, or anything we can do.ok, so what happens if you di. and you refused to do this. where you saved?
Then why do so many men reject him?Since He was lifted up, He will draw all men unto himself.
All men. Everyone. All of humankind.
John 12:32 KJV
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
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lolThat's spiritual extortion.
It's not a free gift if it is "hell to pay" for not receiving it.
What we deserve? For not receiving a free gift?
What's wrong with this picture?
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sorryOur salvation has nothing to do with us, or anything we can do.
Salvation was what God did for us on the cross.
Unless you believe the Atonement was incomplete somehow.
1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
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That's a common claim of evangelicalism that seems baseless for the most part.Then why do so many men reject him?
The claim of a free gift is a biblical contradiction.lol
Again. If I am drowning and someone comes to rescue me and does not charge me for it. but I reject his offer and die. it was still a free gift it was paid by the giver..
no one is ever obligated to recieve a gift. It is not work or a charge to say yes, thank you I take it.
really?That's a common claim of evangelicalism that seems baseless for the most part.
How is this "mass rejection" measured?
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In the end everyone will acknowledge Jesus is Lord. They will all be believers.Jesus said we must believe, if we do we are born again
We need to count the cost after we are saved..The claim of a free gift is a biblical contradiction.
Jesus said we need to count the cost. Nothing free about that.
Thats what the word tells us to do.And completely out of touch with the demands of the church.
You said your church expelled people for not towing the line. (not your words)
Luke 14:28 NIV
“Suppose one of you wants to build a tower.
Won’t you first sit down and estimate the cost to see
if you have enough money to complete it?
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well of course, when they see him face to face.In the end everyone will acknowledge Jesus is Lord. They will all be believers.
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That's the wrong question.Have you ever spoke to people and ask them if they trust Christ?
Is that what Jesus said? Afterwards? Or before?We need to count the cost after we are saved..
That's debatable.But then it is to late..
Bait and switch.We need to count the cost after we are saved..
Do you think a Muslim would say they believe Jesus died for their sin so they could be saved would say yes?That's the wrong question.
You asked me why so many reject Christ.
If I asked them, what would they say? "No."
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I don't have enough money, Thats why I need to be like the tax collector to cry out to God for mercy.Is that what Jesus said? Afterwards? Or before?
Luke 14:28 NIV
“Suppose one of you wants to build a tower.
Won’t you first sit down and estimate the cost to see
if you have enough money to complete it?
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Who would deny Christ when they realize heaven is real?That's debatable.
Remember the Harrowing of Hell?
It has happened before. It can happen again.
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Jesus paid it allBait and switch.
(more spiritual extortion)
"It's free!" - Seriously?
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Again, that's the wrong question.Do you think a Muslim would say they believe Jesus died for their sin so they could be saved would say yes?