The Beast Revelation

[michae1]

Christian films often portray that all those who have not received the mark of the beast will be killed, this is a symbolic truth. The circumstances are true, but they missed the real meaning due to some failed interpretations. All those who have not taken the mark are killed, this part is true, but those who have not taken the mark are Hamas. The mark was given during the elections for the president of the Palestinian authority, which was boycotted by Hamas. Hamas has never received the mark. Films like to portray all people as subject to the mark. This part is wrong. It only affects those Palestinians who did not take the mark, and not the whole world. It is only Hamas. This makes the mark as what the letter indicates. It was the indelible ink brand given to those who voted in the Palestinian elections.​

 

[Zao is life]

The Bible is the only written form of the only Revelation of Almighty God - the Word of God. Eternal life is in Christ alone. His Spirit is in those who believe in Him. They alone have their names written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world - and they know it, because His Spirit (the Spirit of the Almighty God) is in them.

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. -- Revelation 13:8.

All whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world will worship the beast.

 

[Truth7t7]

The Bible is the only written form of the only Revelation of Almighty God - the Word of God. Eternal life is in Christ alone. His Spirit is in those who believe in Him. They alone have their names written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world - and they know it, because His Spirit (the Spirit of the Almighty God) is in them.

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. -- Revelation 13:8.

All whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world will worship the beast.

Th÷ world will receive the mark and worship the beast by "Deception" not force

The (False Prophet) will call fire down from heaven before the beast, the is the means of deception used to fool the world

Revelation 13:11-14KJV
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

 

[michae1]

Th÷ world will receive the mark and worship the beast by "Deception" not force

The (False Prophet) will call fire down from heaven before the beast, the is the means of deception used to fool the world

Revelation 13:11-14KJV
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

The false prophet is already dead. Israel killed him with a bomb under his bed. Having said that, the false prophet has already fulfilled his part. Also, fire coming down from heaven is rocket fire on Israeli cities. Most of it has been stopped, but they still fire one occasionally. How you arrived at your conclusion, I will never know. I had some information which talked about this, posted years ago, but it is no longer here. An overzealous moderator deleted it. This is where censorship really hurts me. I needed that thread, which showed the dates of posting. It would have helped me build my case. Now, instead of having information to back-up my claims, you just get the answer.

 

[Davy]

Why do the moderators on this Forum keep allowing whackos to post here?

 

[Jay Ross]

Why do the moderators on this Forum keep allowing whackos to post here?

There are those who the same view of you, as you do of other members.

Do you believe that your wisdom is untouchable compared to others on this forum?

 

[ewq1938]

The false prophet is already dead. Israel killed him with a bomb under his bed.

The FP of Rev 13 etc is not killed by man but is cast into the LOF in Rev 19. The Fp is not public yet and is definitely not dead already.

 

[soberxp]

There are those who the same view of you, as you do of other members.

Do you believe that your wisdom is untouchable compared to others on this forum?

Freedom of speech.........even in the Garden of Eden Isn't there freedom of speech ?
Did God really say that you cannot eat from that tree?

 

[Jay Ross]

Freedom of speech.........even in the Garden of Eden Isn't there freedom of speech ?
Did God really say that you cannot eat from that tree?

Are you suggesting that Davy is eating from the same Tree of Knowledge as Adam and Eve ate from?

Sadly Davy is using false argument in his weak rebuttals in a vain attempt to win brownie points.

 

[soberxp]

Are you suggesting that Davy is eating from the same Tree of Knowledge as Adam and Eve ate from?

Sadly Davy is using false argument in his weak rebuttals in a vain attempt to win brownie points.

no,I'm not talking about him.I'm talking about people's right to freedom of speech.Even in the Garden of Eden,Didn't that ancient serpent also say that famous remark? God didn't forbid it to say such things.

 

[Trekson]

Christian films often portray that all those who have not received the mark of the beast will be killed, this is a symbolic truth. The circumstances are true, but they missed the real meaning due to some failed interpretations. All those who have not taken the mark are killed, this part is true, but those who have not taken the mark are Hamas. The mark was given during the elections for the president of the Palestinian authority, which was boycotted by Hamas. Hamas has never received the mark. Films like to portray all people as subject to the mark. This part is wrong. It only affects those Palestinians who did not take the mark, and not the whole world. It is only Hamas. This makes the mark as what the letter indicates. It was the indelible ink brand given to those who voted in the Palestinian elections.​

Sorry, but that time hasn't come yet.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Why do the moderators on this Forum keep allowing whackos to post here?

Ask them yourself why they keep allowing people like you to post here.

 

[Davy]

Ask them yourself why they keep allowing people like you to post here.

I rest my case. Come on, you followers of doctrines of men, make your list against me bigger; I know there's more here than just 3 of ya.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I rest my case. Come on, you followers of doctrines of men, make your list against me bigger; I know there's more here than just 3 of ya.

You've never had a case to rest.

 

[TribulationSigns]

 

[Zao is life]

Teapots n kettles thread.

 

[William Barton]

IMO:
Mark of the "beast" (a.k.a. "antichrist") is a physical mark/object on the hand or forehead (Revelation 13:16-18). My impression is that it is a chip, like the chip on a credit card. Without the chip it will be difficult to buy necessities.

Revelation 13:12 says "την γην και τους εν αυτη" ("the land and those in it") referring to the Middle East (not all the world). There was no concept of planet earth in biblical times.

 

[TLHKAJ]

The false prophet is already dead. Israel killed him with a bomb under his bed. Having said that, the false prophet has already fulfilled his part.

Impossible if you believe the Scriptures. both the AC and the FP will be dealt with simultaneously as they are cast alive into the lake of fire.

Revelation 19:20
“And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.”

 

[Zao is life]

IMO:
Mark of the "beast" (a.k.a. "antichrist") is a physical mark/object on the hand or forehead (Revelation 13:16-18). My impression is that it is a chip, like the chip on a credit card. Without the chip it will be difficult to buy necessities. Revelation 13:12 says "την γην και τους εν αυτη" ("the land and those in it") referring to the Middle East. There was no concept of planet earth in biblical times.

I don't know what the mark of the beast is but IMO you are correct about the meaning of Revelation 13:12's "the earth" - wherever that "the land" is (I don't know where it is).

1 Samuel 2:8
He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth [erets] are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world [tebel] upon them.

1 Chronicles 16:30
Tremble before him, all the earth [erets]! The world [tebel] is established, it cannot be moved.

The Hebrew uses word [erets] for "land" (not the planet earth, but the land) throughout the flood narrative:

Genesis 6:12
12 And God looked upon the earth [erets] (the land), and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth [erets] (the land).
13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth [erets] (the land) is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth [erets] (the land).

"And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth [erets] (the land)."

2 Peter 3:5-7
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens (ouranós) were of old, and the earth [gē] standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world (o kósmos) that then was, being overflowed with water, perished."

The word Kosmos in the Greek = "world" - it does not mean "universe" or "Cosmos" ("the heavens") (as it does in English).

Matthew 2:6
And thou Bethlehem, in the land [ge] of Judah, art not the least among the princes of Judah: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.

So yes, the word ge is talking about the land, not the whole world - wherever that "the land" is (I don't know where it is).

There is also this difference between a beast rising from 'the sea' and a beast rising from 'the earth' (Revelation 13:11)- again the word is ge. Out of what land do you believe that beast will rise?

 

[William Barton]

Zao is Life asked:

<Out of what land do you believe the beast will rise?>

Presumably the beast will arise after 1000 years to Jerusalem, the place where he had been thrown down into the earth.

See Isaiah 66:7-16, Daniel 11:36-45.