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"Earth" in Revelation 11:12 is Greek γη = "land." There was no concept of planet earth in New Testament times.
"Earth" in Revelation 11:12 is Greek γη = "land." There was no concept of planet earth in New Testament times.
Revelation 13:12 says "everyone on earth, will be forced to worship the beast", does that mean everyone on earth needs to repent? (refuse to repent?)
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Revelation 13:8 :
And all those who dwell on the earth shall worship him, whose name is not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Thanks to the zionist jews ( and goyim), satan will have all the information on every human in this world. Remember, he is not omnipresent. Only our Triune God is. And once the Holy Spirit is departed, I might add, we will see tribulation like no other time in the history of this world.
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Can I make a small suggestion? First, because the worship you speak of is enforced through government legislation, it hasn't happened yet. Second, the image to the beast, while it is in the process of being set up, isn't up and running, yet. Third, please take some time to discover who the beast actually is, then ask the beast what it's mark is. I'm not sure what you are repenting of... love for the world maybe...that's good. Needs to be done. But I put it to you that what everyone needs to do at this stage of earth's history is to get to know Jesus better. That applies to everyone on the forum, without exception. And everyone not on the forum. Again, without exception. Pray. Constantly. And all Him who the beast is, and let Him, Who is your Shepherd, guide you into all truth. Once you learn that, everything else will make perfect sense and fall into place. Right now, we all have a small window of opportunity before the deception becomes global and so compelling that us, even the elect will be tempted. Even though the elect will understand the truth, they will have to deny self in order to stand. The eyes and ears will behold such things that it will challenge everything we thought we knew. The scriptures, and an unbiased absence of all preconceptions will be the arbiter of truth and error. Feelings, sight, sound, human devising and legal pronouncements from the church using the state to enforce its doctrines, will not be able to convince those who are sealed by the Holy Spirit and have settled into the Truth and are grounded in they remained with Jesus and His Father.
Like to know your take on what the "beast" is.
At this point I believe the beast of Revelation is the last ( fourth ) satanic Kingdom of the world.
The mark of the beast ( kingdom) is the BLUE HEXAGRAM, I believe. Most people do not understand who controls the world and who will have the authority to govern this last kingdom with Satan.
The noahide laws will be a gentle way of introducing the terror to be unleashed on the earth once the tribulation/ absence of the Holy Spirit begins.
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From my blog, (see signature), titled Revelation 13.
Composites. We see them everywhere. They are all about us. They are called people. Every single person on the planet is a composite of his ancestors. DNA inherited from the sum total of all who have gone before make up what we are today. Although we are individuals, and unique, that uniqueness is bound up in our inherited genes.
With that in mind I would like to discuss one of the most intriguing composites on the planet. Not an individual, but an institution. Described as a 'beast' in the book of Revelation in chapter 13, this beast has had many Biblical scholars both university educated and self taught, deeply embroiled in debate, argument, and discussion for nearly 2000 years. This beast has been the focus of attention with far more intensity in the past 150 years or so as the church recognises the signs of the second coming approaching, thus study with more interest those prophecies which reveal events, and characters which are pertinent to the 'last days'.
It is the nature of the composites, those things which form the beast, that I will focus on in this post. I have dealt extensively elswhere with the prophecies of Daniel, linking the characteristics of the 'little horn' power of Daniel 7 with those of the papacy, and as we will see here, the beast of Revelation 13 likewise mirrors those characteristics.
Revelation 13:1 ¶ And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Revel. 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
We see here a kingdom rising up in a populous part of the earth, in this case the capital of the then superpower, Rome.
When compared with...
Revel.12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
...we see that whatever this beast is, it is a clone of Satan, the dragon, himself. This is his baby so to speak, his own creation, made after his own likeness.
Revel. 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
The Apostle John from his vantage point was looking backwards in time and seeing the same beasts of Daniel 7 only in reverse order. Daniel was looking forward, John back. Thus what John was seeing was a beast that had already begun to rise to power in his day. This gels with his comment in one of his letters that states that " even now are there many antichrists". The spirit that gave rise to the one Antichrist had begun to develop and was seen in several different forms in Johns lifetime. This beast is a composite of all that had gone before. Those characteristics which marked the uniqueness and nature of the previous powers were now resident in this one.
Like unto a leopard....
Nothing in nature, be they plants, animals, reptiles, birds, nor fish, can lie, not having the power of speech, but they can deceive. Deception is attained through appearance, or camouflage. And deception Jesus said, would be Satan's principle weapon of choice in the last days. The leopard is a prime example of camouflage. The leopard, unlike the tiger or the lion, for the most part does not stalk its prey. It patiently lies in wait, in all appearance an innocent part of the foliage, until its prey come to him, then the leopard strikes. The papacy is of very similar character. An attractive and seemingly innocent part of the Christian landscape, but deceptively dangerous. Patience is the hallmark of the Catholic church. For 400 years she has waited for the counter reformation to bear fruit, and today we witness hundreds of priests and lay people from other faiths and denominations now returning to the 'mother church'. Hundreds of years she has waited for her opportunity to rise again to her former glory. Her ambitions are now global, take note of the following from a very recent news report:
The Vatican called on Monday for the establishment of a "global public authority" and a "central world bank" to rule over financial institutions that have become outdated and often ineffective in dealing fairly with crises.....A proposal by the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace calls for a new world economic order based on ethics and the "achievement of a universal common good." It follows Pope BenedictXVI's 2009 economic encyclical that denounced a profit-at-all-cost mentality as responsible for the global financial meltdown.
Read more: Vatican Calls For Global Authority On Economy | Fox Business
Isn't this interesting? Particularly when one considers the prophetic implications of an international authority with the power to enforce a religious mark using economic boycotts to encourage subservience.
Notice one more thing about leopards. Jesus Himself significantly remarked that a leopard cannot change her spots. It is worthwhile to note that many protestants today would claim that the papacy has changed. That she has mellowed from her former harsh judgemental attitudes which marked her history throughout the dark ages. But can a leopard change her character? No.
Jer. 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.
The feet of a bear....
Death is, until the resurrection, like a deep dreamless sleep. In 1798 the papacy, as we saw previously, received its deadly head-wound (Verse 3) when the then pope was taken captive by the French, and the Catholic church 'ceased to range over the country-side' like a bear and went into hibernation until 1929 when Mussolini returned to the Vatican, and the pope, the civil power which had been taken from her. Once again she was a church/state power, the unique distinction which marks her pagan beginnings.
The feet and claws of a bear are her most powerful weapons: one strike can rip open her prey, killing instantly. The injunction in Daniel 7:5 of the bear/Media-Persia to "devour much flesh" is very apt when applied to such a beast as a bear which has a ravenous appetite especially after hibernation. Whether in hibernation, or as a leopard or bear, whether in patient hiding or as a ravenous beast on the hunt, the Vatican will do whatever is necessary to achieve her goals...global dominion.
An interesting point regarding this particular bear. The Media/Persians, which nation was represented by the bear in Daniel, were renowned as lawmakers.
Daniel 6:8 Now, O king, establish the decree, and sign the writing, that it be not changed, according to the law of the Medes and Persians, which altereth not.
"Why does the Catholic church not recant what was said by Trent...because it is Catholic teaching that a council teaches authoritatively, and the church is not authorised to repudiate retrospectively a conciliar decree".
John Neuhaus.
Every principle of the papacy that existed in past ages exists today.The doctrines devised in the darkest ages are still held. The leopard has not, indeed cannot, change her spots. The laws, canons, and various decrees which vaunted the papal power's presumed authority to torture, to wage war, and to destroy all who believe in their God given right to freedom of conscience, still exist today. Not one has been abrogated or altered. Their own dogma regarding infallibility forbids any change to that which has been officially legislated as articles of doctrine in the dogmas and canons of the Catholic Church. The inquisition, torture, and burning of heretics in past ages are still looked upon by the ruling councils of the Vatican as justifiable, lawful, and at times even necessary.
mouth of a lion....
Ask a native of Africa what the most fearsome sound is in the African bush and all would agree that it is the roar of the lion. Various bulls and pronouncements from popes and his representatives have for centuries sent chills of fear and dread down the spines of kings and common man alike. There was a time, until the late 18th century, when a pronouncement of excommunication from the church could send an entire nation into a state of fear of eternal damnation in the fires of hell. Like the devil, "as a roaring lion walketh about seeking who he may devour" the papacy has no true authority in spiritual matters. It is the fear, rather than the popes words themselves, that has destroyed the faith of millions. "But we have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but rather the spirit of adoption" (Romans 8:15) "and of power, and of love, and a sound mind". (2 Tim. 1:7) Notice the mouth "speaking great things and blasphemies" (Rev.13:15). Since its re-establishment in 1929, the Vatican has slowly but surely wooed herself into becoming once again a world power, and presidents and royalty alike present themselves to the pope bowing before him, kissing the ring upon his finger, and wait in awe and reverence to hear his words...."and all the world wonders after the beast". (Revel. 13:5)
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Before we look at the antichrist, I want to look at the real Christ. Who is He? Let us go to the scriptures to find out what and Who He claimed to be.
Mathew 12:6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple...
The temple, the priesthood, and the religious system including all the ceremonies, the sacrifices, and the law of the Jewish nation go hand in hand. It was the mainstay and focal point of the life of Israel. Yet Jesus claimed to be greater. Greater even than the very High priest who no doubt would take great interest in hearing a report of these words. Greater even than the law itself, because He was the lawgiver.
....38 ¶ Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here...
Jonah was the most powerful and successful of all OT prophets. In all 40 odd chapters of Jeremiah, there is no record of anyone at anytime taking the slightest bit of notice of anything Jeremiah said. Yet Jonah, on the strength of just one or two sermons, converted the entire city of Nineveh of the children of Ishmael totaling maybe 60,000 people. By any standards, that has got to be recorded as a very successful evangelistic campaign. Yet Jesus claimed to be greater than Jonah.
...42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.
Solomon was the wisest and wealthiest and most successful of any ruler of the ancient world. Yet Jesus claimed to be greater even than Solomon.
He claimed to be a greater priest than the current high priest of Israel, He claimed to be a greater prophet than Jonah, and He claimed to be a greater King than Solomon. In these three startling claims, we have before us the threefold ministry of Jesus. Priest, prophet, and King.
It has been said, and I think wisely, that the Bible must be understood grammatically before it can be understood theologically. Anti- as in antichrist, according to Strong's concordance, and like other words having the prefix 'anti', means at it's most basic form "in the room of", "instead of", or "in the place of".
In other words, 'antichrist' stands as a substitute. We all know that Satan works by deception. Yet many claim the 'antichrist' will be one who will charge in on a black horse guns blazing with fury and hatred directed at all things Christian and opposing with great force the church. Pray tell me, how will the world be deceived by such a tactic as this?
In 2 Thess. 2:1 we are told that there was to be a falling away first, which will reveal the antichrist, or as Paul describes him, the man of sin or son of perdition. Now falling away in this instance is a falling into apostasy; divorce.
Any divorce necessitates a prior favourable relationship. The only other example of a 'son of perdition' is Judas Iscariot. Did Judas openly and with force oppose Christ? Did he attack His teachings and disagree with Jesus claims to divinity? Did he argue and debate everything Jesus stood for and seek the destruction of His followers? No. Not by any means. Judas betrayed Jesus with a kiss. He betrayed Him with an act of apparent love, fellowship, and friendship. He undermined and betayed Jesus at the same time as claiming Him to be his friend!! This squares perfectly with the meaning of antichrist. He is not an opposer, but a subtle impostor. A counterfeit. An impostor of Jesus Christ. A false copy, or forgery of the true.
Antichrist is therefore a person or power who impersonates the offices of Priesthood, the Prophet or spokesmanship, and the Kingly rule of Christ. The office that ministers for God, speaks for God, and rules for God.
To be continued....
Mathew 12:6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple...
The temple, the priesthood, and the religious system including all the ceremonies, the sacrifices, and the law of the Jewish nation go hand in hand. It was the mainstay and focal point of the life of Israel. Yet Jesus claimed to be greater. Greater even than the very High priest who no doubt would take great interest in hearing a report of these words. Greater even than the law itself, because He was the lawgiver.
....38 ¶ Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here...
Jonah was the most powerful and successful of all OT prophets. In all 40 odd chapters of Jeremiah, there is no record of anyone at anytime taking the slightest bit of notice of anything Jeremiah said. Yet Jonah, on the strength of just one or two sermons, converted the entire city of Nineveh of the children of Ishmael totaling maybe 60,000 people. By any standards, that has got to be recorded as a very successful evangelistic campaign. Yet Jesus claimed to be greater than Jonah.
...42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.
Solomon was the wisest and wealthiest and most successful of any ruler of the ancient world. Yet Jesus claimed to be greater even than Solomon.
He claimed to be a greater priest than the current high priest of Israel, He claimed to be a greater prophet than Jonah, and He claimed to be a greater King than Solomon. In these three startling claims, we have before us the threefold ministry of Jesus. Priest, prophet, and King.
It has been said, and I think wisely, that the Bible must be understood grammatically before it can be understood theologically. Anti- as in antichrist, according to Strong's concordance, and like other words having the prefix 'anti', means at it's most basic form "in the room of", "instead of", or "in the place of".
In other words, 'antichrist' stands as a substitute. We all know that Satan works by deception. Yet many claim the 'antichrist' will be one who will charge in on a black horse guns blazing with fury and hatred directed at all things Christian and opposing with great force the church. Pray tell me, how will the world be deceived by such a tactic as this?
In 2 Thess. 2:1 we are told that there was to be a falling away first, which will reveal the antichrist, or as Paul describes him, the man of sin or son of perdition. Now falling away in this instance is a falling into apostasy; divorce.
Any divorce necessitates a prior favourable relationship. The only other example of a 'son of perdition' is Judas Iscariot. Did Judas openly and with force oppose Christ? Did he attack His teachings and disagree with Jesus claims to divinity? Did he argue and debate everything Jesus stood for and seek the destruction of His followers? No. Not by any means. Judas betrayed Jesus with a kiss. He betrayed Him with an act of apparent love, fellowship, and friendship. He undermined and betayed Jesus at the same time as claiming Him to be his friend!! This squares perfectly with the meaning of antichrist. He is not an opposer, but a subtle impostor. A counterfeit. An impostor of Jesus Christ. A false copy, or forgery of the true.
Antichrist is therefore a person or power who impersonates the offices of Priesthood, the Prophet or spokesmanship, and the Kingly rule of Christ. The office that ministers for God, speaks for God, and rules for God.
To be continued....
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Continued....
The falling away that Paul spoke indeed did take place just as he said. Jesus' letter to the church of Ephesus (Revelation 2) reveals the beginning of this process. During the ensuing centuries, political instability within the Roman Empire resulted in Germanic barbarian tribes taking over the former territories of the western portion of the empire. Constantine moved the capital to the east, and Rome was left without a leader. This void was filled by the bishops of Rome, many of whom were more politically minded than religious. Power corrupted them, and by the 6th century the apostasy was well under way, the formation of a church/state union which was the vehicle for the introduction of many pagan superstitions and practices entering the church.
Satan has many counterfeits. Now counterfeits are almost identical to the true. You do not get counterfeit 99$ notes. You get counterfeit 100$ notes. And unless you get trained and disciplined to know intimately the true 100$ note, you will not recognise the false. It has been estimated that every person in America who has regularly handled 100$ notes, has had pass through their hands a counterfeit at least 4 times a year! And not known it!!!! Unless you are intimately acquainted with the true Jesus, how will you recognise the counterfeit?
In Revelation 14:6-12 God has the final message of warning that His people must deliver before He comes. It is shown as being preached by 3 angels. This is figurative, for it is the responsibility of the church to preach the gospel. It however can be understood that angels are directing and overseeing the preaching. Satan however has a counterfeit message. We see this in Revelation 16:13,14. "And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty."
This is a threefold message of demons opposing and deceiving the world at the time of the end.
The following is not intended as evidence for the concept of a 'Christian trinity', however, the following does make for very interesting comparisons.
Dragon/Satan.
His place in heaven (Rev 12:3,7,8.)
He has a throne. (Rev 13:2, 2:13)
Gives throne, power, and authority to sea-beast. (13:2,4.)
He is worshipped. (13:4a)
Destroyed forever. (20:9,10)
Now compare:
God the Father
Dwelling in heaven (Rev 4,5)
He has a throne. (4:5; 7:9-15; 19:4)
Gives throne, power and authority to Jesus. (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27; 3:21; chapters 4,5.)
Is worshipped. (Rev 4:10; 15:4)
Lives and reign forever. (4:9; 5:13; 11:15)
The Land-beast or false prophet.
Called the false prophet because he decieves people with regards to religious matters. (16:13; 19:20; 20:10)
Lamb-like. (13:11)
Exercises all authority of sea-beast. (13:12a)
Directs worship to sea-beast. (13:12b,15)
Performs signs. (13:13; 19:20)
Brings fire down from heaven (13:13)
Gives breath/life to beasts image (13:15)
Applies mark of beast. (13:16)
Now compare:
The Holy Spirit
Called the Spirit of truth guiding people. (Jn 16:13 Rev 22:17)
Christ-like. (Jn 1426; 16:14)
Exercises authority of Christ (Jn 16:13,14)
Directs peoples attention to Christ (Acts 5:29-32)
Grants gifts..gift of miracles eg.(1 Cor. 12:8-11)
Fire from heaven at Pentecost (Acts 2)
Instills life to us, the image of Christ, 'Christ in us the hope of glory'... (Romans8:8-11,29)
Applies seal of God. (2 Cor 1:22 Eph 1:13 4:30 Rev 7:3,4.)
The sea-beast or antichrist.
Comes from water to begin activity. (13:1)
Resembles dragon. (12:13 13:1)
Ten diadems. (13:1)
Ten horns (13:1)
Receives power throne and authority from dragon/Satan. (13:2,4)
42 months of activity in first phase. (13:5)
Was slain (13:3)
Resurrected (13:3)
Receives worship after healing (13:3,4,8)
Now compare:
Jesus Christ
Comes from water to begin ministry (Luke 3:21-23)
Resembles Father (Jn 14:19)
Many diadems (Rev 19:12)
Lamb has 7 horns (5:6)
Receives power throne and authority from His Father (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27 Chapters 4,5)
42 months of ministry in initial phase. (Gospel of John)
Was slain (Rev 5:6)
Was resurrected (Rev1:18)
Received worship after resurrection (Math 28:17)
Note how very similar the prophetic characteristics of antichrist are to Jesus.
So do the above attributes of the sea beast match any entity or individual in the world today? How does the above sea-beast or antichrist counterfeit the threefold ministry of the true Christ, as Priest, Prophet and King? Is there an entity in the world today who claims to do just this? Is there one like Judas who is betraying the Master with a kiss, all the while claiming to be a friend? Is there in the world today a religious system or religious ruler who claims to be the earthly representative of Christ as His priest, claiming to be a mediator between God and man? Claiming to forgive sin even, which is the sole prerogative of God, and Biblically and in particular applying to Jesus?
Does this entity also claim the prerogatives of a prophet? Does it claim to speak for God in spiritual matters? Does it claim to stand as God's spokesman on earth and claim that only through it's authority can salvation be found, and that when speaking officially is considered on a par with scripture, that is infallible?
And finally, does this entity also claim to be a king? Does it claim authority as a secular power? Does it exercise authority and power within the auspices of a church/state relationship?
The answer my friends to all the above questions is a firm yes.There is an entity in the world today who claims all the above Godly prerogatives which belong only to Jesus Christ. Priest, prophet and king.This entity has set itself up as counterfeit and thus can be affirmatively identified as the Antichrist, the impostor and impersonator of the true. And this entity can be found only in the Roman Catholic church system.
More detail on how the RCC meets all the criteria as Antichrist go to my category Characteristics of the Little Horn power of Daniel 7 – Brakelite's Breach Repair, Brick by Brick.
The falling away that Paul spoke indeed did take place just as he said. Jesus' letter to the church of Ephesus (Revelation 2) reveals the beginning of this process. During the ensuing centuries, political instability within the Roman Empire resulted in Germanic barbarian tribes taking over the former territories of the western portion of the empire. Constantine moved the capital to the east, and Rome was left without a leader. This void was filled by the bishops of Rome, many of whom were more politically minded than religious. Power corrupted them, and by the 6th century the apostasy was well under way, the formation of a church/state union which was the vehicle for the introduction of many pagan superstitions and practices entering the church.
Satan has many counterfeits. Now counterfeits are almost identical to the true. You do not get counterfeit 99$ notes. You get counterfeit 100$ notes. And unless you get trained and disciplined to know intimately the true 100$ note, you will not recognise the false. It has been estimated that every person in America who has regularly handled 100$ notes, has had pass through their hands a counterfeit at least 4 times a year! And not known it!!!! Unless you are intimately acquainted with the true Jesus, how will you recognise the counterfeit?
In Revelation 14:6-12 God has the final message of warning that His people must deliver before He comes. It is shown as being preached by 3 angels. This is figurative, for it is the responsibility of the church to preach the gospel. It however can be understood that angels are directing and overseeing the preaching. Satan however has a counterfeit message. We see this in Revelation 16:13,14. "And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty."
This is a threefold message of demons opposing and deceiving the world at the time of the end.
The following is not intended as evidence for the concept of a 'Christian trinity', however, the following does make for very interesting comparisons.
Dragon/Satan.
His place in heaven (Rev 12:3,7,8.)
He has a throne. (Rev 13:2, 2:13)
Gives throne, power, and authority to sea-beast. (13:2,4.)
He is worshipped. (13:4a)
Destroyed forever. (20:9,10)
Now compare:
God the Father
Dwelling in heaven (Rev 4,5)
He has a throne. (4:5; 7:9-15; 19:4)
Gives throne, power and authority to Jesus. (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27; 3:21; chapters 4,5.)
Is worshipped. (Rev 4:10; 15:4)
Lives and reign forever. (4:9; 5:13; 11:15)
The Land-beast or false prophet.
Called the false prophet because he decieves people with regards to religious matters. (16:13; 19:20; 20:10)
Lamb-like. (13:11)
Exercises all authority of sea-beast. (13:12a)
Directs worship to sea-beast. (13:12b,15)
Performs signs. (13:13; 19:20)
Brings fire down from heaven (13:13)
Gives breath/life to beasts image (13:15)
Applies mark of beast. (13:16)
Now compare:
The Holy Spirit
Called the Spirit of truth guiding people. (Jn 16:13 Rev 22:17)
Christ-like. (Jn 1426; 16:14)
Exercises authority of Christ (Jn 16:13,14)
Directs peoples attention to Christ (Acts 5:29-32)
Grants gifts..gift of miracles eg.(1 Cor. 12:8-11)
Fire from heaven at Pentecost (Acts 2)
Instills life to us, the image of Christ, 'Christ in us the hope of glory'... (Romans8:8-11,29)
Applies seal of God. (2 Cor 1:22 Eph 1:13 4:30 Rev 7:3,4.)
The sea-beast or antichrist.
Comes from water to begin activity. (13:1)
Resembles dragon. (12:13 13:1)
Ten diadems. (13:1)
Ten horns (13:1)
Receives power throne and authority from dragon/Satan. (13:2,4)
42 months of activity in first phase. (13:5)
Was slain (13:3)
Resurrected (13:3)
Receives worship after healing (13:3,4,8)
Now compare:
Jesus Christ
Comes from water to begin ministry (Luke 3:21-23)
Resembles Father (Jn 14:19)
Many diadems (Rev 19:12)
Lamb has 7 horns (5:6)
Receives power throne and authority from His Father (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27 Chapters 4,5)
42 months of ministry in initial phase. (Gospel of John)
Was slain (Rev 5:6)
Was resurrected (Rev1:18)
Received worship after resurrection (Math 28:17)
Note how very similar the prophetic characteristics of antichrist are to Jesus.
So do the above attributes of the sea beast match any entity or individual in the world today? How does the above sea-beast or antichrist counterfeit the threefold ministry of the true Christ, as Priest, Prophet and King? Is there an entity in the world today who claims to do just this? Is there one like Judas who is betraying the Master with a kiss, all the while claiming to be a friend? Is there in the world today a religious system or religious ruler who claims to be the earthly representative of Christ as His priest, claiming to be a mediator between God and man? Claiming to forgive sin even, which is the sole prerogative of God, and Biblically and in particular applying to Jesus?
Does this entity also claim the prerogatives of a prophet? Does it claim to speak for God in spiritual matters? Does it claim to stand as God's spokesman on earth and claim that only through it's authority can salvation be found, and that when speaking officially is considered on a par with scripture, that is infallible?
And finally, does this entity also claim to be a king? Does it claim authority as a secular power? Does it exercise authority and power within the auspices of a church/state relationship?
The answer my friends to all the above questions is a firm yes.There is an entity in the world today who claims all the above Godly prerogatives which belong only to Jesus Christ. Priest, prophet and king.This entity has set itself up as counterfeit and thus can be affirmatively identified as the Antichrist, the impostor and impersonator of the true. And this entity can be found only in the Roman Catholic church system.
More detail on how the RCC meets all the criteria as Antichrist go to my category Characteristics of the Little Horn power of Daniel 7 – Brakelite's Breach Repair, Brick by Brick.
Davy
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Nah............. the 'falling away' Apostle Paul mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2 WAS NOT PAST HISTORY.
It is coupled with the TIMING of 2 Thessalonians 2:4, and both together read...
2 Thess 2:3-4
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
KJV
Amazing... how some, even those who claim... to be educated, can't even follow simple English grammar in the above with how that "Who opposeth and exalteth himself..." beginning of verse 4 cannot be left by itself. That "Who" MUST pick up the subject of the one spoken of in the previous 3rd verse!
I have often heard preachers just omit reading that 4th verse along with that 3rd verse. Thank Christ Jesus we are not all too lazy to go check out the Scripture for ourselves to know those preachers are telling a lie.
Paul's subject about the coming false one, the "man of sin", with his being revealed, then continues with the following...
2 Thess 2:9-12
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
Hummm............; didn't we hear Lord Jesus say something about that false one coming to work "great signs and wonders", and that IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, it would deceive even His "very elect"? Yeah, Jesus warned the Church about that same one above in His Olivet discourse of Matthew 24:23-26. But you very elect in Christ Jesus won't be deceived by that coming false-Messiah; he won't be a temptation to you. Thus you cannot fall away from Christ to that false one.
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
KJV
Did Paul say God would send the deceived out of the Churches to drop Church attendance in past history by that? NO, OF COURSE NOT! Paul warned about that coming "man of sin" to sit in a new stone temple in JERUSALEM at the END of this world, working all power of signs and wonders AS A "STRONG DELUSION" upon those who have not the love of the Truth of God's Word! Thus those will be deceived by that coming "man of sin".
I LAUGH... at those who falsely claim that falling away is about past Church history! What a JOKE!
It is coupled with the TIMING of 2 Thessalonians 2:4, and both together read...
2 Thess 2:3-4
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
KJV
Amazing... how some, even those who claim... to be educated, can't even follow simple English grammar in the above with how that "Who opposeth and exalteth himself..." beginning of verse 4 cannot be left by itself. That "Who" MUST pick up the subject of the one spoken of in the previous 3rd verse!
I have often heard preachers just omit reading that 4th verse along with that 3rd verse. Thank Christ Jesus we are not all too lazy to go check out the Scripture for ourselves to know those preachers are telling a lie.
Paul's subject about the coming false one, the "man of sin", with his being revealed, then continues with the following...
2 Thess 2:9-12
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
Hummm............; didn't we hear Lord Jesus say something about that false one coming to work "great signs and wonders", and that IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, it would deceive even His "very elect"? Yeah, Jesus warned the Church about that same one above in His Olivet discourse of Matthew 24:23-26. But you very elect in Christ Jesus won't be deceived by that coming false-Messiah; he won't be a temptation to you. Thus you cannot fall away from Christ to that false one.
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
KJV
Did Paul say God would send the deceived out of the Churches to drop Church attendance in past history by that? NO, OF COURSE NOT! Paul warned about that coming "man of sin" to sit in a new stone temple in JERUSALEM at the END of this world, working all power of signs and wonders AS A "STRONG DELUSION" upon those who have not the love of the Truth of God's Word! Thus those will be deceived by that coming "man of sin".
I LAUGH... at those who falsely claim that falling away is about past Church history! What a JOKE!
The Jewish people have been training priests and fashioning accessories for the temple.
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Davy
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Yes, and doing that since the 1990's.
The new Sanhedrin formed again in 2004...
The New Sanhedrin – Israel My Glory
israelmyglory.org
IMO "mark of the beast in the hand or forehead" is perhaps an implanted tiny chip, like the one in your credit card.
The issue here is control. People without the mark will be limited in what they can buy or sell.
The issue here is control. People without the mark will be limited in what they can buy or sell.
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Talmudic, Communist, Zionist jews created the world bank over 100 years ago. The Catholic Church works for them. Actually you can find mystic jewish symbolism there as well. Both incorporate the serpent as the underlying theme. Not surprised there.....
Luther7 noted:
>tribulation>
Revelation 7:9-14 describes a multitude of people who die during the tribulation. I suspect this applies mainly to Jerusalem and the middle east, since that is where the contention has always been.
Revelation 7:17 says: "the Lamb at the center of the throne [currently in heaven] will shepherd them and will guide them to springs of living [i.e. flowing] water, and God will wipe away every tear from their eyes."
The reason for the coming strife is that Satan knows his time is short (Revelation 12:12).
>goyim>
Hebrew גויים, I usually say "gentiles."
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IMO:
The "beast rising from the sea" (Rev 13 1), i.e. from the abyss (Rev 11:7), is a demonic ruler. "Demon" = "fallen angel."
"Sea" is perhaps the Mediterranean Sea, alongside Israel.
In Rev 20:3 an angel throws Satan into the abyss after the return of Jesus. Satan will abide in the abyss during the entire 1000-year ("millennial") reign of Jesus, which will begin when Jesus returns.
The "beast rising from the sea" (Rev 13 1), i.e. from the abyss (Rev 11:7), is a demonic ruler. "Demon" = "fallen angel."
"Sea" is perhaps the Mediterranean Sea, alongside Israel.
In Rev 20:3 an angel throws Satan into the abyss after the return of Jesus. Satan will abide in the abyss during the entire 1000-year ("millennial") reign of Jesus, which will begin when Jesus returns.
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IMO:
Jesus promised never to leave any Christian believer: "Never will I leave you, never will I forsake you" (Hebrews 13:5, citing Deuteronomy 31:6).
In 1Samuel16:14 the Holy Spirit did depart from Saul. Jesus had not yet paid our penalty for us, so at that time support of the Spirit was not necessarily permanent.
Jesus promised never to leave any Christian believer: "Never will I leave you, never will I forsake you" (Hebrews 13:5, citing Deuteronomy 31:6).
In 1Samuel16:14 the Holy Spirit did depart from Saul. Jesus had not yet paid our penalty for us, so at that time support of the Spirit was not necessarily permanent.
Revelation 16:14 says βασιλεις της οικουμεγης ολης = " kings of all the inhabited land." There was no concept of planet earth in Biblical times.
Revelation 19:19 says βαδιλεισ της γης = " kings of the *land.* There was no concept of planet earth in a biblical times.
Revelation 19:19 says βαδιλεισ της γης = " kings of the *land.* There was no concept of planet earth in a biblical times.
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If Saul was a true believer he would have always had the Holy Spirit, like David, like Abraham, etc.
William, The teaching of a physical, sin- cursed earthly reign of Jesus is found nowhere in scripture. Only in Revelation 20 do we see that language, which is purely figurative. I can say that because the Bible clearly teaches, in many places, judgment day ( the end of this world) when Jesus Christ comes the second time.
I shudder with disbelief and amazement that the church has fallen for such a deceptive teaching. It only benefits zionist jews who privily brought that doctrine to the pulpit through non- Spirit led pastors. It really took off during the time of the introduction of the Scofield Bible, when a jewish operated publishing house gave the Scofield study Bible away for free to all the churches. We've been indoctrinated.
The phrase " thousand years" is found in other verses and relates to the " completeness of time". You will not find any suggestion of Jesus coming back to reign on this current sin- cursed earth. Jesus said He will " make all things new",
Luther7 noted:
>sin-cursed earthly reign of Jesus is found nowhere in scripture>
"Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and *they will reign with him for a thousand years*." (Revelation 20:6)
I do not read this as a sinless time, especially since the millennial reign of Jesus culminates in an attack on Jerusalem (Revelation 19:11-21).
>sin-cursed earthly reign of Jesus is found nowhere in scripture>
"Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and *they will reign with him for a thousand years*." (Revelation 20:6)
I do not read this as a sinless time, especially since the millennial reign of Jesus culminates in an attack on Jerusalem (Revelation 19:11-21).
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