Study Links mRNA COVID Vaccines to ‘Off-Target Products’ in Heart Cells, Fueling Calls for Licensure Revocation

[The Barbarian]

Or if you allergic to the main ingredient of a medication.

Yes. That's not toxicity as it's normally defined. An allergic reaction happens when a substance reacts with your immune system. Most commonly, it reacts with immuneglobuin E, which is bound to mast cells. When the substance binds to IgE, this cases the cells to release histamine and heparin, which causes the allergic reaction. In some cases, it can be rapidly fatal. Normally, such a reaction requires an initial sensitizing exposure, after which a second exposure causes a severe reaction.

While most medications are not allergens themselves, they can be haptens, binding to a protein like albumin, after which the hapten/protein complex causes an allergic reaction.

 

[Scott Downey]

Did they ever establish that the vaccine contributed to their death? I assume they were older and heart issues can spring up fast in even very healthy more senior people.

I am soory for you rloss.

No, medical people will never say such a thing.

 

[The Barbarian]

No, medical people will never say such a thing.

Well, let's take a look...

A Case Report of Prolonged Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 Vaccine - PMC

As the medical community and world have combatted the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic, a significant advance was the development of a vaccine against the virus that has already claimed over 4.5 million lives worldwide.1 Vaccines ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So, there have been a very small number of serious allergic reactions due to the vaccine. That's a risk with any immunization. I saw one case in six years of running an AF immunology clinic, where technicians gave many thousands of immunizations.

Vaccine​

Volume 42, Issue 7, 7 March 2024, Pages 1731-1737

Mortality risk after COVID-19 vaccination: A self-controlled case series study​

Conclusion​

Using a modified SCCS design and adjusting for temporal trends, no-increased risk was found for non-COVID-19 mortality, all-cause mortality, and four cardiac-related death outcomes among recipients of the three COVID-19 vaccines used in the US.

I'd be surprised if, after hundreds of millions of vaccinations given, that there wasn't even one death from anaphylaxis or other cause. But so far, one hasn't been identified.

 

[Jack]

God help those who are foolish enough to trust Big Pharma, in Jesus' Name!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No, medical people will never say such a thing.

And you can make such an all encompassing allegation based on.....?

If they lie about a Cause of death- they are libel to major lawsuits.

 

[Jack]

Medical errors are possibly the LEADING cause of death!

 

[The Barbarian]

Medical errors are the LEADING cause of death!

Show us that. Sounds pretty unlikely, given that people were dying long before there were doctors.

 

[The Barbarian]

God help those who are foolish enough to trust Big Pharma,

It's what FDA is for. Remember the thalidomide scandal in Europe? We there were very few cases here, because the FDA withheld approval. Regulation is what made the difference.

In 1959, a Cincinnati pharmaceutical firm, the William S. Merrell Company, quietly began distributing samples of an exciting new wonder drug already popular around the world. Touted as a sedative without risks, thalidomide was handed out freely, under the guise of clinical trials, by doctors who believed approval by the Food and Drug Administration was imminent.

But in 1960, when the application for thalidomide landed on the desk of FDA medical reviewer Frances Kelsey, she quickly grew suspicious. When she learned that the drug was causing severe birth abnormalities abroad, she and a team of dedicated doctors, parents, and journalists fought tirelessly to block its authorization in the United States and stop its sale around the world.
True Story of Thalidomide in the US | USA Thalidomide Survivors

Don't trust any corporation to do the right thing. One of the scary things about the current government, is Trump is gutting regulatory agencies to free up businesses to do as they wish.

 

[Jack]

Show us that. Sounds pretty unlikely, given that people were dying long before there were doctors.

"Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer."

"The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don’t want you to know about"

The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don't want you to know about

More than 250,000 people in the US die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

www.cnbc.com

Not taking into account all the COVERUPS!

 

[Jack]

It's what FDA is for. Remember the thalidomide scandal in Europe? We there were very few cases here, because the FDA withheld approval. Regulation is what made the difference.

In 1959, a Cincinnati pharmaceutical firm, the William S. Merrell Company, quietly began distributing samples of an exciting new wonder drug already popular around the world. Touted as a sedative without risks, thalidomide was handed out freely, under the guise of clinical trials, by doctors who believed approval by the Food and Drug Administration was imminent.

But in 1960, when the application for thalidomide landed on the desk of FDA medical reviewer Frances Kelsey, she quickly grew suspicious. When she learned that the drug was causing severe birth abnormalities abroad, she and a team of dedicated doctors, parents, and journalists fought tirelessly to block its authorization in the United States and stop its sale around the world.
True Story of Thalidomide in the US | USA Thalidomide Survivors

Don't trust any corporation to do the right thing. One of the scary things about the current government, is Trump is gutting regulatory agencies to free up businesses to do as they wish.

The FDA is ran by Big Pharma!

 

[The Barbarian]

The FDA is ran by Big Pharma!

And yet an FDA official stepped in and stopped "big pharma" from distributing a drug that caused severe birth defects. \

 

[The Barbarian]

Medical errors are the LEADING cause of death!

Show us that. Sounds pretty unlikely, given that people were dying long before there were doctors.

"Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer."

That sounds more realistic. But the evidence indicates that's also erroneous.

Rate of Preventable Mortality in Hospitalized Patients: a Systematic Review and Meta-analysis - PMC

The number of preventable inpatient deaths in the USA is commonly estimated as between 44,000 and 98,000 deaths annually. Because many inpatient deaths are believed to be preventable, mortality rates are used for quality measures and reimbursement. ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Granted, the overall study included nations with national health care (and lower rates of medical errors) but even in the U.S. the actual numbers don't come close to many other causes of death.

 

[The Barbarian]

Not taking into account all the COVERUPS!

For a few years, I had to be the loss control liason for a large state medical liability pool. Risk Management in hospitals is organized to identify incompetence and error. And it works very well. I developed an analysis based on department and type of adverse effect; it managed to weed out a lot of problems over the years. Hospitals loved it. Doctors, not so much. But hospitals made the decisions.

 

[Jack]

For a few years, I had to be the loss control liason for a large state medical liability pool. Risk Management in hospitals is organized to identify incompetence and error. And it works very well. I developed an analysis based on department and type of adverse effect; it managed to weed out a lot of problems over the years. Hospitals loved it. Doctors, not so much. But hospitals made the decisions.

Even being the THIRD leading cause of death is horrendous, don't you think? Ever see a TV Big Pharma ad listing some of the DEADLY side effects? They basically say, 'if it doesn't kill you it might help you'! And they run them so fast obviously to keep people from the details.

The FDA staff is filled with Big Pharma approving DEADLY drugs. The FDA has said they have cleaned house of the Big Pharma reps. I believe them like I believe a politician.

 

[The Barbarian]

Even being the THIRD leading cause of death is horrendous, don't you think?

Turns out to be horrendous and fictitious. Which kinda cancel each other out.

Rate of Preventable Mortality in Hospitalized Patients: a Systematic Review and Meta-analysis - PMC

The number of preventable inpatient deaths in the USA is commonly estimated as between 44,000 and 98,000 deaths annually. Because many inpatient deaths are believed to be preventable, mortality rates are used for quality measures and reimbursement. ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Jack]

Turns out to be horrendous and fictitious. Which kinda cancel each other out.

Rate of Preventable Mortality in Hospitalized Patients: a Systematic Review and Meta-analysis - PMC

The number of preventable inpatient deaths in the USA is commonly estimated as between 44,000 and 98,000 deaths annually. Because many inpatient deaths are believed to be preventable, mortality rates are used for quality measures and reimbursement. ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Is it fictitious that the FDA drug approval staff was infested with Big Pharma staff for many years? Ever hear of Vioxx? Thalidomide?

"A widely cited 2016 analysis from Johns Hopkins University estimated that medical errors cause more than 250,000 deaths per year in the United States, which would make them the third leading cause of death, behind heart disease and cancer."

Where Does Medical Error Rank in Causes of Death?

Medical errors may rank among the leading causes of death, yet they’re absent from official statistics. Here’s why, and what the data actually shows.

scienceinsights.org

Not including coverups!

 

[The Barbarian]

Even being the THIRD leading cause of death is horrendous, don't you think?

Turns out to be horrendous and fictitious. Which kinda cancel each other out.

Is it fictitious that the FDA drug approval staff was infested with Big Pharma staff for many years?

We were talking about medical errors killing people. Turns out, it's much less than the third leading cause of death in the United States.

• Heart disease: 683,491
• Cancer: 619,876
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 197,449
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 166,852
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 145,643
• Alzheimer’s disease: 116,022
• Diabetes: 94,445
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 55,081
• Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis: 52,274
• Suicide: 48,824

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm

 

[Jack]

"Already the Third leading cause of death in the United States, Medical Mistakes Up 13% Over Previous Year"

https://www.blhfirm.com/blog/2025/08/already-the-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-united-states-medical-mistakes-up-13-over-previous-year/

Not including coverups!

 

[The Barbarian]

"Already the Third leading cause of death in the United States, Medical Mistakes Up 13% Over Previous Year"

From a lawyer? Well, that's reassuring. And he lists suicide as a "medical mistake", among other things. And the JCAH data he mentions is overwhelmingly nonfatal medical errors. He didn't tell you that, because he correctly guessed that you wouldn't know what Joint Commission data is or even how it's gathered. I suppose it's possible that he didn't know either, but most lawyers are smarter than that.

Hospitals with whom I and my reps consulted usually had an increase in reported incidents of medical errors after implementing our recommendations for monitoring. But it wasn't because they had more errors; they were merely better at finding them, after our training.

We didn't see an increase in deaths due to medical errors, though. If you think about it, I'm sure you can see why.

Your lawyer just saw a story about causes of death, and copied it because it fit his agenda. But as you see, he didn't offer any evidence. For reasons you're probably beginning to understand.

 

[Jack]

From a lawyer? Well, that's reassuring. And he lists suicide as a "medical mistake", among other things. And the JCAH data he mentions is overwhelmingly nonfatal medical errors. He didn't tell you that, because he correctly guessed that you wouldn't know what Joint Commission data is or even how it's gathered. I suppose it's possible that he didn't know either, but most lawyers are smarter than that.

Hospitals with whom I and my reps consulted usually had an increase in reported incidents of medical errors after implementing our recommendations for monitoring. But it wasn't because they had more errors; they were merely better at finding them, after our training.

We didn't see an increase in deaths due to medical errors, though. If you think about it, I'm sure you can see why.

Your lawyer just saw a story about causes of death, and copied it because it fit his agenda. But as you see, he didn't offer any evidence. For reasons you're probably beginning to understand.

A lawyer's word is just as good as a Big Pharma rep. If everybody was well Big Pharma would be out of business. They have a HUGE agenda. $$$. Does Big Pharma get paid when they kill someone? Of course they do! How often do they get prosecuted??? They can easily cover up most deaths they cause!